Zardari targets a barrage of abuse at the Military.

[pak-marine]

PTI is Centre. Which religious party has liberal female members in it's forefront? (Shireen Mazari, Naz Baloch, Reham Khan etc). Imran Khan is very liberal man, but also a good person by following Muslim Values. Does not mean at all that he's a fundo.

But they aren't right wing.

I have done mine you guys need to do your checks PTI is right leaning 100%

 

[mr.robot]

Still waiting for ISPR's statement like it was issued against Altaf Hussain. Otherwise I will also chant Aik Zardari, sab par bhari and Jiye Bhutto

 

[Dubious]

a son of Soil

no son of satan is son of soil

Karachi se FATA

Since when is FATA under him?

Why isnt this dog just shot and called collateral damage or targeted killing?

ap tu 3 saal ke liye aye hain , ( COAS ) hum tu humesha rahen gay , jung humain bhi ati hai , aur jung sirf hum ko hi ati hai ( again threat to raise arms against the state and Army )

Hamesha?

Jung? Seriously go stand on LoC! Stupid air head barbie (and I thought only Billo creature was like that...Lagta hai baap say hi seekha hai)!

Why is there even a question in Zardaris mind over exposing corruption by generals in the Army? Please do so immediately instead of threatening to blackmail the military and government into not taking action against PPP involvement in massive corruption and criminal activities.

Whether Zardari's allegations are correct or not, by not exposing this alleged corruption he is playing a part in damaging Pakistan's national security and aiding those who are robbing the country blind.

Exposing corruption in the military will not damage it's operations against terrorism, but allowing corruption to continue will definitely harm our troops because these stolen resources could have been used to better protect and equip them.

Stop protecting your corrupt and criminal political party and it's members and expose this alleged corruption by providing all necessary evidence to NAB as well as the military.

Somehow people dont see it a lose lose for him

I mean if he "exposes" them we can take him down for bad mouth + holding back such info + no more leverage against army


If he doesnt I agree with what you said:

by not exposing this alleged corruption he is playing a part in damaging Pakistan's national security and aiding those who are robbing the country blind.

supreme court

SC is an equal joke of the country

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

... I'm waiting for the day when criminals of sindh will be arrested those are hurting Karachi because we are not sindhis.

I'm not denying the involvement of the PPP and other political parties in the criminal activities you mentioned, the DG Ranger's basically said so and this thread is a result of the military merely flagging the criminal and governance issues in Karachi, without getting into specifics, let along actually taking tangible action to address the issues.

If this is kind of tantrum the PPP throws when its corruption and criminal links are mentioned indirectly as part of a report on dynamics in Karachi that feed into the general terrorism and lawlessness we see there, then are you really surprised that the military (or anyone else) is hesitant to take tangible action?

Like I said before, unlike the MQM, the PPP and its leadership will throw a screaming fit claiming 'Sindhi persecution by Punjabi Establishment' if its corrupt and criminal hold on power in Sindh is challenged. They'll play the 'Sindh card' left and right to retain their ill gotten gains and keep the residents of Sindh impoverished and manipulate the anger of Sindhis, that the PPP itself has deliberately failed, towards the 'Punjabi Establishment'. It's human nature - much easier to blame an 'outsider' than look within and fix your own house.

If ever there was a party deserving of the 'Baighairat Ghadar Brigade' name, it is the PPP. Yet without reforms in institutions like the FIA/NAB to make them truly independent and free of political interference and have the ability to investigate and prosecute political corruption, it will be impossible to take on the corrupt politicians in Sindh and elsewhere, who manipulate nationalism into a 'get out of jail free' card and essentially blackmail the State to let them continue with their criminal activities.

The only other way I see change coming is if Sindhis wake up and exercise the power of their vote to kick out the PPP in the next elections.

 

[Nabeel Liaqat]

I wish that COAS took blunt brave action as his personality & image shows this way. He is the man who can show way to all the corrupt men into jail.
Strict action required this time, otherwise who knows these type of chances come again or not....

 

[mingle]

AZ style of politics is about to end in pak .He miscalculate everything he toasted

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

Now they suddenly awake up and start blaming others, what a waste of national treasure for past 26 years to pay their salaries and other bills.

What exactly do you want them to do? Arrest Zardari and the majority of the PPP and MQM leadership that is involved in criminal activities and shoot them on the street?

Spare me the BS political talking points you borrowed from the PPP and her lackey's - you could deploy the Rangers in Karachi for a thousand years and still get no improvement if the Ranger's do not have the ability to freely investigate, arrest and prosecute politicians. The Rangers are little more than a security force that is intended to target violent criminal elements. Their role is to act as a 'SWAT Team' to the local Karachi police, not replace them. It is the police that is (or should be at least) trained to properly investigate and prosecute white collar criminals. The Rangers are deliberately kept on a leash that is yanked back in when they get 'too out of line' for the comfort of the politicos. The current Zardari tantrum is basically just another such instance. So with restrictions like these, the Rangers are not going to do anything.

This thread is a shining example of what happens when the Ranger's issue a mere statement detailing the issues confronting Karachi - the political stalwarts of our nation who gave us the 18th Amendment (and pretty much did nothing else except 'development of their own bank accounts) run around screaming and crying 'Haw Hai - we are not corrupt, we gave you the 18th amendment, and look we are such wonderful and great political leaders that we chose not to join Imran Khan's dharna and let the current government complete its term'.

Baigharati ki be koi hadd hoti hai - Zardari basically said that the entire nation should be grateful to the PPP for just serving in office for 5 years, passing an amendment and not taking out violent protests to shut down the country! Balay Balay!! They gave us democracy!! What else do we Pakistanis need, right?

What kind of imbeciles vote for this guy and his political party time and again?

 

[vitalsign]

Zardari who is the most corrupt person can't expose others. He is the man who have had s*x with Ayan Ali and he is broker of her H***n. Sale ne rakheel rakhi hui thi.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

Still waiting for ISPR's statement like it was issued against Altaf Hussain. Otherwise I will also chant Aik Zardari, sab par bhari and Jiye Bhutto

Keep waiting - Aik Zardari is sub par bhaari, because the hordes of impoverished, deprived and enslaved Jiyalas kept in that condition for just this purpose will be incited into violence against the State.

Zarari and his fellow PPP criminals are not going anywhere until Sindhis themselves choose to kick them out of power. There is nothing the military can do here without a severe backlash, and it is too stretched in FATA and Balochistan to want to get involved in another front.

You know what happened when another corrupt feudal named Nawab Bugti had his hold on power challenged ..

 

[mr.robot]

Keep waiting - Aik Zardari is sub par bhaari, because the hordes of impoverished, deprived and enslaved Jiyalas kept in that condition for just this purpose will be incited into violence against the State.

Zarari and his fellow PPP criminals are not going anywhere until Sindhis themselves choose to kick them out of power. There is nothing the military can do here without a severe backlash, and it is too stretched in FATA and Balochistan to want to get involved in another front.

You know what happened when another corrupt feudal named Nawab Bugti had his hold on power challenged ..

Does that logic/theory not apply in Altaf Hussain's case? MQM is far more lethal as they can jam the financial hub unlike Interior Sindh while playing Mohajir Card

 

[aik pakistani]

this is what he say " Ager hum ne list nikal li tu , hum sab ki eent se eent baja den gay , ager Mai chahun tu Karachi se FATA tak pura pakistan band kerdun ga , aur tab tak nai khule ga , jab tak mai nai kehta , Hum nai chahte ke idaaray kamzoor hun ( army ) , ap tu 3 saal ke liye aye hain , ( COAS ) hum tu humesha rahen gay , jung humain bhi ati hai , aur jung sirf hum ko hi ati hai ( again threat to raise arms against the state and Army )

now imagine if these Statements comes from Altaf Hussain ??
what would our Army have done or Say ?? what would have our Establishment have done ?
let me tag some of our notable members here ..
@Bratva @Horus @Irfan Baloch @Secur @Zarvan @Leader @Jzaib @Jazzbot @balixd @Arsalan@syedali73

everyone who used to curse MQM and its leader for making statements against the Army and State , by threatening state ... here you go , a son of Soil doing " Maa behn " of our army , state ....

COAS ko chaheay kay in sab ko danday maar maar kar PAKISTAN KI MUQADAS AIWAAN say bahar nikal daina chaheay. awaam bhi in sab hukmaranoo kay tamashoon say tang achuki hay.

 

[Peaceful Civilian]

9 pages and still no source???
wtf...

 

[Viking 63]

LOL, yaa one Dakuu exposing other Dakuu !!! PPP vs Army ( Round One )....

 

[Green Angel]

BILLI thelay se bahar a gai.........ab is ki Mayyat hi LARKANA jai gi puray aizaz Kay sath......Magar phir bhi Bhutto zinda rahey ga.....

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

Does that logic/theory not apply in Altaf Hussain's case? MQM is far more lethal as they can jam the financial hub unlike Interior Sindh while playing Mohajir Card

No, not really.

Altaf's violence is generated through thugs who are primarily focused on ensuring his control over the MQM and various criminal enterprises. If he's really pushed into a corner, he'll back down because even if he plays the ethnic card, he doesn't have the 'real estate' (ie ethnically based province) and the threat of secession of that real estate as leverage.