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Zardari blamed Pak Army for dual role: Newsweek

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that's just the way cookie crumbles. very interesting. to start with US just leaked the info about Rana's confession indicting ISI on Mumbai attack. Now.. this new revelation. Basically they are saying to pak.. 'don't try to push it! we got enough cards to play with'!!
This is what happens when you squeeze someone's balls - they start squealing in pain and anger and wildly thrashing about.

This sudden surge in propaganda and verbal diarrhea from the usual suspects linked to or fed by the US Establishment is indicative of that 'squealing in pain and anger' on the part of the us. We already know that when it comes to foreign policy the US media practices self censorship and will.push the establishment line and propaganda- we saw that with the Raymond Davis case as well as with the WMD in Iraq lies and propaganda.
 
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Half assed crap? i doubt it you might not like the message but you cant ignore the qualifications of the person saying it.
B Riedel is a US establishment pig - nothing he has said so far in his career as a commentator/analyst has been objective - it is always the typical PRO US.policy position. He is nothing but a propaganda mouth piece for the US Establishment.
 
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B Riedel is a US establishment pig - nothing he has said so far in his career as a commentator/analyst has been objective - it is always the typical PRO US.policy position. He is nothing but a propaganda mouth piece for the US Establishment.

Pig? Wow, made you angry, did he? He worked for the country whose flag he lives under & never claimed otherwise. Just because a person sees a worldview from his country's standpoint doesn't mean he is wrong, certainly does not mean he is a pig.
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Snake or back stabbing is the Indian nature. India in a Pakistani soldier Turban, usually Sikhs wear turbans in the Indian Army. Bagahl may churee or moo may Ram Ram, relates more to hindus.

so the taliban isnt back stabbing,should have known
 
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With US aid, pakistan is fast becoming another north korea exclusive to the sub-continent. It is impossible to take a softer view because it would be untrue. Pakistani people are a resilient bunch ,but the governing establishments, including the military apparatus are run by a bunch of morons.

Democracy must prevail over an impending authoritative regime.
 
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The thing is how did Zardari get the guts?

Hope he lives a long life, God bless him.
 
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First Musharraf then Zardari. I feel both came to realise the dangers of playing a double game.

The frankestine you create will come back and haunt you itself
 
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With US aid, pakistan is fast becoming another north korea exclusive to the sub-continent. It is impossible to take a softer view because it would be untrue. Pakistani people are a resilient bunch ,but the governing establishments, including the military apparatus are run by a bunch of morons.

Democracy must prevail over an impending authoritative regime.

"bunch of morons" are the ones that captured 29%of Kashmir known as Azad Kashmir. You sould focus more on controlling the Indian inflation currently officially at 13%, but unofficially at 25-30%. Prices of food items, clothing, housing is sky rocketing in India. This is from Indians that I work with, not my own idea.

Do not forget to takecare of the 443,000,000 million Indians below the poverty line, so in other words 20 North Koreas in India. Indians are in no position to lecture anyone.
 
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"bunch of morons" are the ones that captured 29%of Kashmir known as Azad Kashmir.
Ahem.. Also lost east pakistan. Converted the social thinking to what it is today. Made the country a client state having no idea whixh lap to go for now. Had great fun in kargill. Real brave stuff and also raised natoonal honor and of course defeated the great USSR and readily brought pakistan to where it is today. And even with all this ensuring F16s are purchased on the loans no matter what is the education spend in the budget. I am impressed. Do not worry what Indians need to worry about. Ur this love has ensured that we are moving ahead quite well with our head held high and with not sufferring the daily delight od drones popping up on our territory. Worry a little about ur own people and the mehangai bohrams. Indians are anyway poor. We are helpless bunch who will survive by even begging. Just take care of ur mighty marshal self esteem.
 
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"Take LeT, the terror group that attacked the Indian financial capital of Mumbai in 2008, killing 164 people. Today, LeT continues to enjoy Army patronage. Pasha, the intelligence chief, has even been summoned by a New York City court to answer charges that the ISI oversaw the Mumbai attack," he added."

Those are Riedel's words since he was the one commenting, not Zardari's.
 
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Its very unfortunate, and adds to already huge trust deficit, when our leaders (either military or political) start blaming each other infront of west. Whereas, in essence, everybody is in for the game. Some (politicians) for the game of limited power and premier seats, others (military leadership) for game of strategy and geophysical scenarios (which, over the years, have rather proved to be non prudent paths taken)
 
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Its very unfortunate, and adds to already huge trust deficit, when our leaders (either military or political) start blaming each other infront of west. Whereas, in essence, everybody is in for the game. Some (politicians) for the game of limited power and premier seats, others (military leadership) for game of strategy and geophysical scenarios (which, over the years, have rather proved to be non prudent paths taken)

The title is misleading. If you read through the earlier posts, you will come to the same conclusion that this report is false and makes no reference to Zardari. It only quotes one man, Reidel.
 
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Come on, this thread is still running? Needs to be delete or locked.
 
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Pig? Wow, made you angry, did he? He worked for the country whose flag he lives under & never claimed otherwise. Just because a person sees a worldview from his country's standpoint doesn't mean he is wrong, certainly does not mean he is a pig.
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His qualifications and experience would imply that he would not be making nonsensical arguments based on things like a 'civil case' summoning the ISI chief on the basis of lawyers arguing a past relationship between the LeT and the ISI.

That he resorted to such a patently weak argument to bolster his case clearly indicates that he is acting as a propaganda mouthpiece for the US establishment.

And as I said earlier - you squeeze someones balls and they start squealing in pain and anger - the recent hoopla being raised through David Headley, now Reidel and leading into Mullen's propaganda in Pakistan pretty much establishes that the US is in 'squealing mode' over Pakistan's decision to take a stand against illegal US operations on it soil - Raymond Davis, the Drone Strikes and any other CIA covert operations on Pakistani soil without Pakistan's approval.

And since no one has provided any link to direct quotes by Zardari, as claimed by Reidel, thread closed.
 
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