Zarb-i-Azb alone won't save Pakistan

[cleverrider]

its not about giving them anything .. you make school in Fata they will destroy them within a month , you make parks there they are going to Fcuk them ... you make hospitals there they are going to make it dirty as hell ... same goes with balouch .. that is why i am against tribal culture that tribal culture is all about forcing peoples to live like animals .. no education for low peoples , and tribal leaders are man made gods ,what ever they judge is equal to judgement of God .. you invest millions of $$$ in fata today and within few years you will your investment in vein .

Have you been to interior sindh or interior Baluchistan? Is that their fault or the leaders - they have failed these people many times.

Back to topic - IT took decades to mess this up and now it will take decades to get back to normal.

Starting with what I stated.

 

[rockstar08]

Have you been to interior sindh or interior Baluchistan? Is that their fault or the leaders - they have failed these people many times.

Back to topic - IT took decades to mess this up and now it will take decades to get back to normal.

Starting with what I stated.

i have never been there nor i want too ...

and on topic.. unless we do thing which i stated in my first post .. we can not achieve victory .

 

[Hyperion]

Your signature: Thank you for pointing out. I'll recite Pakistani anthem in the ears of my newborn first!

i never been to Islamabad , but what these tribal people has done to Karachi is enough to make a impression on me

 

[rockstar08]

Your signature: Thank you for pointing out. I'll recite Pakistani anthem in the ears of my newborn first!

well just done forget to invite me on his/her Aqiqa ceremony

 

[cleverrider]

i have never been there nor i want too ...

and on topic.. unless we do thing which i stated in my first post .. we can not achieve victory .

this wont stop until you hang the arrested terrorists. . .
ok - Building institutions, I have already stated that - Corrupt judiciary suit army and others.

and also throw out Afghans , Tajik and Uzbik out of Pakistan ... and if any tribal peoples have sympathy for them .. they should also get lost from Pakistan

If that was the solution to the problem - Army would have done that long time ago. You Know what they done in Bangladesh, so you know what they certainly are capable of.

There is not even a border between Pakistan and Afghanistan – This has been discussed many times on this forum.

You need to have a open mind and think with open head to deal with this. You sound a bit racist to me.

 

[rockstar08]

this wont stop until you hang the arrested terrorists. . .
ok - Building institutions, I have already stated that - Corrupt judiciary suit army and others.

and also throw out Afghans , Tajik and Uzbik out of Pakistan ... and if any tribal peoples have sympathy for them .. they should also get lost from Pakistan

If that was the solution to the problem - Army would have done that long time ago. You Know what they done in Bangladesh, so you know what they certainly are capable of.

There is not even a border between Pakistan and Afghanistan – This has been discussed many times on this forum.

You need to have open mind and think with open head to deal with this. You sound a bit racist to me.

listen our judiciary is good for nothing ... how many terrorist been given death sentence till now ???

and as far as Army doing is concern , this is not work of army to throw these scum bags Afghans, Tajik and Uzbiks out of PAk. its govt work

 

[cleverrider]

listen our judiciary is good for nothing ... how many terrorist been given death sentence till now ???

and as far as Army doing is concern , this is not work of army to throw these scum bags Afghans, Tajik and Uzbiks out of PAk. its govt work

Corrupt judiciary – Corrupt Politicians allows army to stay in power. If you start following the law, these Army men will be the first in the queue to be hanged. To do justice you have to start from the powerful – and powerful people who? Guess?

That’s why, do what I stated in the first post – within the next decade you will feel the difference.

What in the west is so different to us – follow that and we shall succeed, the way they have succeeded. These people have not come from a different planet.

 

[A.Rafay]

Extremists are everywhere in our society, one doesn't need to go to tribal areas or Afghanistan to get brainwashed into a suicide bomber, local extremist madrasahs are doing the job well.

 

[rockstar08]

Corrupt judiciary – Corrupt Politicians allows army to stay in power. If you start following the law, these Army men will be the first in the queue to be hanged. To do justice you have to start from the powerful – and powerful people who? Guess?

That’s why, do what I stated in the first post – within the next decade you feel the difference.

What in the west is so different to us – follow that and we shall succeed, the way they have succeeded. These people have not come from a different planet.

what are you talking about man .. army is not the only one ... have you even know the role of Pakistani politicians in separation of Dhaka ? everyone blames Army .. do you even know the all the progress Pakistan ever made is in Army era ??
plus ... Pakistani nation is not use to with democracy , they always listen to the language of Stick .. so only army can handle them ... see the 5 years of PPP democratic govt .. and than compare with Musheraf era .. you will see the difference ...

and for throwing out Afghans and other nationals from Pakistan is not a rocket science ......

 

[cleverrider]

what are you talking about man .. army is not the only one ... have you even know the role of Pakistani politicians in separation of Dhaka ? everyone blames Army .. do you even know the all the progress Pakistan ever made is in Army era ??
plus ... Pakistani nation is not use to with democracy , they always listen to the language of Stick .. so only army can handle them ... see the 5 years of PPP democratic govt .. and than compare with Musheraf era .. you will see the difference ...

and for throwing out Afghans and other nationals from Pakistan is not a rocket science ......

Who dont the NRO?

Musharraf - Who was army chief - Musharraf = Army. Who introduced Nawaz and others? Army - All this crap is linked.

Zardari was Army stooge, used him and they threw him away. Yes his government was corrupt, but its always give and take relationship.

Like zardari had with his government - Zardari government was more corrupt than him.

Look what happened to Ganja - he was jumping up and down - look what the establishment done to him through qadri and Imran - Does not mean directly.

Lets for arguement sake say musharraf made Pakistan, Heaven? Did he break any laws? YES! is he punished or even close to that.NO

All this is breaking it down - Read my first post and sleep on it. Laters!!

 

[Bas_kya_bhai]

if democracy can make bangladesh progress! whynot pakistan? @rockstar08

 

[jaunty]

if democracy can make bangladesh progress! whynot pakistan? @rockstar08

Bangladeshis did not seek strategic depth.

 

[rockstar08]

Who dont the NRO?

Musharraf - Who was army chief - Musharraf = Army. Who introduced Nawaz and others? Army - All this crap is linked.

Zardari was Army stooge, used him and they threw him away. Yes his government was corrupt, but its always give and take relationship.

Like zardari had with his government - Zardari government was more corrupt than him.

Look what happened to Ganja - he was jumping up and down - look what the establishment done to him through qadri and Imran - Does not mean directly.

Lets for arguement sake say musharraf made Pakistan, Heaven? Did he break any laws? YES! is he punished or even close to that.NO

All this is breaking it down - Read my first post and sleep on it. Laters!!

so many if's and but's ... army behind everything , just like Zionest behind everything ...
who told you zardari was army stooge ?? Zardari came to power after his wife was killed ... more of a sympathy reaction by our 80% jahil awaam ...
and again more Conpiracy theory that army is behind recent political instability .. if army want to wrap up this govt ,, they wont take that much time ... and we ( Pakistani ) knows that well

no one is angel is here ... mushi performance was way better than Zardari and Nawaz Combine .. at least he has balls to initiate a operation against terrorism and terrorist in Lal masjid ...

if democracy can make bangladesh progress! whynot pakistan? @rockstar08

Pakistani basically based on culture which always listen to Danda .. ( stick )

 

[cleverrider]

no one is angel is here ... mushi performance was way better than Zardari and Nawaz Combine .. at least he has balls to initiate a operation against terrorism and terrorist in Lal masjid ...

Yes I have seen his balls in Kargil and in 2008.

 

[rockstar08]

Remember always, the people who will ask you to become a better Muslim, are the ones who are hypocritic in the religious matters themselves. Who use it selectively when convienient. People who will do "Allah Rasool" when they have nothing more to say, in an argument. But revert to their racial stupidity and BS, when they think, that they can get away with it. Thats how religion works today

yeah because with religion entering the argument itself kills the argument
and i didnt know that you are older version of me according to some member here

Thats not the right approach, there are causes of terrorism , but they are not embedded in pashtun or baloch culture. Hating them wont lead you any where. Would some one be justified in hating entire urdu community on the basis of actions of MQM?. I think you and @ghoul are more alarmed at demographic changes in your regions, that can be discussed....but there is no such thing as "tribal terrorism".


No where it is written that pakistani means doing racism and hateful against pashtuns and balochs....thats messed up thinking.

i am not hater of Pushtoons and Balouch , but their tribal culture ... if a pathan comes to be my friend by leaving his tribal cuture behind .. he is welcome ...

and you are most welcome to hate urdu speaking peoples ... the word Muhajir is itself a prove that how much Pakistani peoples accept those who once migrated for this country
plus ...MQM is self proclaimed Muhajir representatives but also the only one ...