Zaki-ur-Rehman Lakhvi & 6 others accused in 2008 Mumbai attack to be charged for abetment to murder

[Dr Gupta]

So what happened to samjhota express culprits?did they get capital punishment?no. Yes and our courts say hafiz saeed is not the culprit. In PK our laws work. This is not Bangladesh or nepal where you will start shouting and bullying. .

I rather go by what the investigators say, if your courts say he is not guilty than fine but this refers to Lakhvi

http://www.dawn.com/news/1198061

The Samjhota case is ongoing the FBI are coming to India also to help with leads, all those guilty must be awarded the death penalty be it Hindu or Muslim does not matter.

http://articles.economictimes.india...arrests-samjhauta-express-blast-kamal-chauhan

 

[Khan_21]

I rather go by what the investigators say, if your courts say he is not guilty than fine but this refers to Lakhvi

http://www.dawn.com/news/1198061

The Samjhota case is ongoing the FBI are coming to India also to help with leads, all those guilty must be awarded the death penalty be it Hindu or Muslim does not matter.

http://articles.economictimes.india...arrests-samjhauta-express-blast-kamal-chauhan

Samjhota express tragedy is older than Mumbai attacks. You guys haven't settled that issue and expecting an issue which happened three years later to be done earlier than yours? that's not how it works . Not atleast when it comes to Pak-India matters where everything is complicated .

 

[Dr Gupta]

Lakhvi can clear his name if he just gives a voice sample but he won't because it was him in the voice this is verified by investigators

Samjhota express tragedy is older than Mumbai attacks. You guys haven't settled that issue and expecting an issue which happened three years later to be done earlier than yours? that's not how it works . Not atleast when it comes to Pak-India matters where everything is complicated .

Well there were multiple bombings in India even before Samjhota like the Mumbai train blast, you must remember this was a incident on Indian soil. The Mumbai attacks were Pakistanis who came on a boat to India to attack us.

Please read the DG investigators report on dawn what he uncovered.

The following facts are pertinent. First, Ajmal Kasab was a Pakistani national, whose place of residence and initial schooling as well as his joining a banned militant organisation was established by the investigators. Second, the Lashkar-e-Taiba (LeT) terrorists were imparted training near Thatta, Sindh and launched by sea from there. The training camp was identified and secured by the investigators. The casings of the explosive devices used in Mumbai were recovered from this training camp and duly matched. Third, the fishing trawler used by the terrorists for hijacking an Indian trawler in which they sailed to Mumbai, was brought back to harbour, then painted and concealed. It was recovered by the investigators and connected to the accused. Fourth, the engine of the dinghy abandoned by the terrorists near Mumbai harbour contained a patent number through which the investigators traced its import from Japan to Lahore and then to a Karachi sports shop from where an LeT-linked militant purchased it along with the dinghy. The money trail was followed and linked to the accused who was arrested. Fifth, the ops room in Karachi, from where the operation was directed, was also identified and secured by the investigators. The communications through Voice over Internet Protocol were unearthed. Sixth, the alleged commander and his deputies were identified and arrested. Seventh, a couple of foreign-based financiers and facilitators were arrested and brought to face trial.

The writer is former DG, FIA.

 

[Khan_21]

Lakhvi can clear his name if he just gives a voice sample but he won't because it was him in the voice this is verified by investigators




Well there were multiple bombings in India even before Samjhota like the Mumbai train blast, you must remember this was a incident on Indian soil. The Mumbai attacks were Pakistanis who came on a boat to India to attack us.

Please read the DG investigators report on dawn what he uncovered.

The following facts are pertinent. First, Ajmal Kasab was a Pakistani national, whose place of residence and initial schooling as well as his joining a banned militant organisation was established by the investigators. Second, the Lashkar-e-Taiba (LeT) terrorists were imparted training near Thatta, Sindh and launched by sea from there. The training camp was identified and secured by the investigators. The casings of the explosive devices used in Mumbai were recovered from this training camp and duly matched. Third, the fishing trawler used by the terrorists for hijacking an Indian trawler in which they sailed to Mumbai, was brought back to harbour, then painted and concealed. It was recovered by the investigators and connected to the accused. Fourth, the engine of the dinghy abandoned by the terrorists near Mumbai harbour contained a patent number through which the investigators traced its import from Japan to Lahore and then to a Karachi sports shop from where an LeT-linked militant purchased it along with the dinghy. The money trail was followed and linked to the accused who was arrested. Fifth, the ops room in Karachi, from where the operation was directed, was also identified and secured by the investigators. The communications through Voice over Internet Protocol were unearthed. Sixth, the alleged commander and his deputies were identified and arrested. Seventh, a couple of foreign-based financiers and facilitators were arrested and brought to face trial.

The writer is former DG, FIA.

And there were Bomb Blasts before Mumbai train like bombings in 1990 by Sarabjit . Which Not surprisingly was made into a hero by bollywood . Pak-India matters have always been complicated and will remain like that .

 

[Dr Gupta]

And there were Bomb Blasts before Mumbai train like bombings in 1990 by Sarabjit . Which Not surprisingly was made into a hero by bollywood . Pak-India matters have always been complicated and will remain like that .

Yes but that was a proxy war we were doing in retaliation for Khalistan and Kashmir, RAW and ISI made a deal think it was under bhutto.

Look we can play the blame game till the cows come home but I want peace between our countries and think we need to resolve all our problems by talking. NS and Modi were trying but later we had a attack on our airbase, also during Musharaf era we were close but Kargil happened.

We live as neighbours we must learn to live in dignity and peace, why fight? we can trade and prosper?

You know England and France fought for a 100 years and now look? I can take a train all the way from Paris to London

 

[Khan_21]

Yes but that was a proxy war we were doing in retaliation for Khalistan and Kashmir, RAW and ISI made a deal think it was under bhutto.

Look we can play the blame game till the cows come home but I want peace between our countries and think we need to resolve all our problems by talking. NS and Modi were trying but later we had a attack on our airbase, also during Musharaf era we were close but Kargil happened.

We live as neighbours we must learn to live in dignity and peace, why fight? we can trade and prosper?

You know England and France fought for a 100 years and now look? I can take a train all the way from Paris to London

I agree no use in fighting and everyone wants peace . England and France cannot be compared to Pak-India because the latter has a very complex history and relation which resulted in millions of people's death when it broke up . England and France were always two separate countries .

The war of roses happened like 600 hundred years ago . Maybe in a few centuries Pak- India can have that sort of relation but I dont see that happening for the foreseeable future .

 

[Dr Gupta]

I agree no use in fighting and everyone wants peace . England and France cannot be compared to Pak-India because the latter has a very complex history and relation which resulted in millions of people's death when it broke up . England and France were always two separate countries .

The war of roses happened like 600 hundred years ago . Maybe in a few centuries Pak- India can have that sort of relation but I dont see that happening for the foreseeable future .

Few centuries? but remember they used divide and rule tactics on us, we giving our paisa to the gora for F-16, Rafale but who wins?

Few centuries the earth will be ruined my friend we already destroying the planet

 

[Khan_21]

Few centuries? but remember they used divide and rule tactics on us, we giving our paisa to the gora for F-16, Rafale but who wins?

Few centuries the earth will be ruined my friend we already destroying the planet

Honestly speaking i have less hope for Pak-India relations. Even if Kashmir , Siachen , Border disputes , everything is solved there might never be peace because the war is ideological between the two countries. They will keep on hating each other . One is Hindu majority nation , another muslim majority add to it 4 wars , Bloody partition , Border killings and you possibly get the most complex relationship you can find anywhere.

Pakistan-India will hate each other just for the sake of being Pakistan-India . Though many decades down the lane we might see a ray of light and hope both societies evolve enough to see the positive in each other .

 

[Dr Gupta]

Honestly speaking i have less hope for Pak-India relations. Even if Kashmir , Siachen , Border disputes , everything is solved there might never be peace because the war is ideological between the two countries. They will keep on hating each other . One is Hindu majority nation , another muslim majority add to it 4 wars , Bloody partition , Border killings and you possibly get the most complex relationship you can find anywhere.

Pakistan-India will hate each other just for the sake of being Pakistan-India . Though many decades down the lane we might see a ray of light and hope both societies evolve enough to see the positive in each other .

Well here in England I have tonnes of Muslim friends some arab, turkish, pakistanis etc and we all get along maybe because we live together and go school etc so things more relaxed.

Maybe forums like Shanghai Pact will bring us closer in the future. China and Russia can help in this matter also. India has friendly relations with all Gulf countries and Iran too so I don't see why we can't have similar arrangement with Pakistan which is our neighbour.

The Scots and the English hated each other for many years too and had bloody conflicts but in time they learn to live together.

I would welcome if the COAS would visit New Delhi for talks this would be a refreshing development.