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I saw yesterday’s program he was speaking the voice of 160 million Pakistanis.
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... That was dumb, you're only joking yourself. Americans have barely given pakistan any economic aid, let alone reform the tribal areas. The truth is they want people to blow themselves up so that they have an excuse to enter territory. tell me, why are we starting to suicide bombing as the norm in pakistan ever since the so-called WOT? China's given more aid for development for the economy. Opium production has only increased in afghan ever since this war, the soldiers are having a great time getting high.And the Taliban have exported drugs and AK-47s to Pakistan, they are not our friends. The US is trying to replace Afghanistan's opium based economy to something else, more legitimate. A democratic, enlightened Afghanistan is in our interests, we should not stop supporting the Americans. By the way, the Americans are preparing to give us hundreds of millions of dollars to improve living standrds in FATA by building schools, hospitals etc. Just like they are doing in Afghanistan.
I've seen plenty people like this. usually they have been molested by some mullah and take their anger out on bearded people. I have a family member who was beaten in a madrassa when he was young, now he doesn't even pray. Sadly, these people don't heal.Screw the Taliban, they can bite the bullets being sent their way. I have no sympathy for them and never will. Bomb them all to hell.
Taliban in Pakistan: bin Laden 'not an enemy'
KHAR (March 10 2008): A pro-Taliban leader in Pakistan's tribal area on Sunday said that al Qaeda chief Osama bin Laden and fugitive Taliban militant leader Mullah Omar were "not enemies of Pakistan."
Addressing a rally near Khar, the main town of Bajaur tribal district bordering Afghanistan, Maulana Faqir Mohammad said that US President George W. Bush was the "biggest enemy" of Pakistan. "America is the biggest terrorist in the world and the current war in Pakistan had been imposed as a consequence of American policy," Mohammad, who is also a Muslim cleric, said.
"As compared to Pakistani rulers, Osama bin Laden and Mullah Omar are the biggest well-wishers of Pakistan. They are not enemies of Pakistan," the cleric said.
"US president Bush is the biggest enemy of Pakistan as Pakistani rulers' backing of Bush had caused grave harm to the country," Mohammad said, referring to the close alliance between Washington and Pakistan President Pervez Musharraf in the US-led "war on terror." Mohammad said that the "Mujahedeen (holy warriors) had the right to wage jihad (holy war) against the rulers in the nook and corners of the country as a result of continued operations against them.
"We do not want to capture the government, but we want imposition of Islamic system in the country." Addressing a press conference in December Mohammad had said that bin Laden could be in "some safe area inside Afghanistan," adding: "If he comes to Bajaur, we will give him a warm welcome."
Mohammad's relatively new umbrella group, United Taliban Movement of Pakistan, is said to have been established to unite Taliban activities in the semi-autonomous tribal belt and other parts of north-western Pakistan. Pakistani forces have fought increasingly fierce battles against al Qaeda and Taliban militants in the tribal belt since 2003.
The Taliban were ousted from power in Afghanistan by a US-led invasion in November 2001, shortly after the September 11, 2001 attacks blamed on bin Laden. Musharraf has been seen in Washington as a bulwark against al Qaeda and the Taliban, but north-western Pakistan has seen the worst of a wave of violence blamed on al Qaeda and Taliban rebels that has swept the country in recent months.
Business Recorder [Pakistan's First Financial Daily]
... That was dumb, you're only joking yourself. Americans have barely given pakistan any economic aid, let alone reform the tribal areas. The truth is they want people to blow themselves up so that they have an excuse to enter territory. tell me, why are we starting to suicide bombing as the norm in pakistan ever since the so-called WOT? China's given more aid for development for the economy. Opium production has only increased in afghan ever since this war, the soldiers are having a great time getting high.
U.S. Aid to Pakistan: Countering Extremism Through Education Reform
by Lisa Curtis
Heritage Lecture #1029
Delivered May 9, 2007
A strong and effective education system in Pakistan will help to ensure that the country steers toward a path of stability, moderation, and prosperity in the years to come, and should therefore be a top priority for Washington in its relations with Islamabad. Lack of adequate education opportunities in Pakistan has contributed to the development of extremist ideologies that have fueled terrorism and sectarian tensions as well as stifled economic growth. Fostering development and reform of the public education system will not only contribute to Pakistani economic prosperity and social tolerance, it will help improve the image of the United States by demonstrating American interest in the human development of average Pakistani citizens.
Today I will focus my remarks on the strengths and weaknesses of current U.S. assistance programs to Pakistan's education sector, as well as the role of the madrassa (Islamic religious school) in contributing to militancy in Pakistan over the last decade.
U.S. Education Assistance to Pakistan: Targeting Critical Areas
U.S. assistance to primary education and literacy in Pakistan has more than doubled--from $28 million in fiscal year 2004 to $66 million in fiscal year 2005. The impact of the findings of the 9/11 Commission report issued in July 2004 on the importance of educational opportunity in the Middle East and South Asia to uprooting terrorist ideology, and increased congressional oversight of U.S. aid programs to Pakistan contributed to the increase in education spending. The Fiscal Year 2008 State Department Congressional Budget Request includes $52 million for general education programs and an additional $50 million for earthquake reconstruction of schools and health facilities. The 2007 Emergency Supplemental Budget Request calls for another $110 million to develop Pakistan's Federally Administered Tribal Areas (FATA), including the education sector. Through a program started in 2003, the United States Agency for International Development (USAID) already is constructing and furnishing 65 primary, middle, and high schools in five agencies of the FATA. The Japanese government is partnering with the U.S. government on this project and constructing an additional 65 schools in the Tribal Areas.
USAID's education program in Pakistan provides training, technical assistance, and infrastructure for government officials, citizens, and the private sector to deliver high-quality education throughout the country. The program is currently focusing on selected impoverished districts in the Sindh and Baluchistan provinces in addition to the FATA. The Basic Education Program benefits over 367,000 Pakistani children and USAID has so far trained over 16,000 Pakistani teachers and administrators. USAID also provides funding for needs-based scholarships for higher education and grants for Fulbright scholarships for post-graduate degrees in the U.S.
USAID education programs also focus on empowering the local community by fostering partnerships between parents and teachers that improve accountability for the children's education. I had the opportunity to visit a USAID-funded girls' school on the outskirts of Islamabad in late 2005. Through a grant of only $1,500, USAID inspired the people of this community to establish a Parent-Teacher Association and to build a library for the school that serves over 500 students.
While this kind of outreach at the grassroots level is necessary, Washington also needs to encourage the Pakistani government to follow through on its own reforms. The government of President Pervez Musharraf launched its Education Sector Reforms (ESR) in January 2002, but has been unwilling to commit substantial resources to reforming the education sector. For example, the government has yet to follow through on its commitment to raise the education budget to 4 percent of GDP in line with United Nations Educational, Scientific, and Cultural Organization recommendations.
One of the major problems with Pakistan's public education sector has been the endemic corruption within the system, which has led to the phenomenon of "ghost schools," i.e. teachers not showing up to teach classes but only to collect their paychecks. The U.S. can help by supporting teacher training programs and encouraging greater accountability through community involvement, but the Pakistani government will have to do its part to limit corruption and inefficiency within the system.
U.S. Aid to Pakistan: Countering Extremism Through Education Reform
Role of the Madrassa in Islamic Militancy in Pakistan
The role of the madrassa in Pakistan and its contribution to Islamic militancy has been the subject of intense debate in U.S. academic and policy circles. Observers have been unable to agree on the actual numbers of madrassas and madrassa students in Pakistan, and some studies reveal that the international media has exaggerated these figures during the last few years. A World Bank study from 2005, for example, says Pakistani madrassas account for less than 1 percent of total academic enrollment in the country. In April 2002, Dr. Mahmood Ahmed Ghazi, the former Pakistani Minister of Religious Affairs, put the number of madrassas at about 10,000, with 1.7 million students.
While most madrassas in Pakistan are not churning out terrorist foot soldiers, there are a handful of religious seminaries that promote anti-West, pan-Islamic, and violent ideologies. Many of the older madrassas have well-established reputations for producing serious Islamic thinkers, while others provide welfare services to the poor through free religious education, lodging, and food. A madrassa student learns how to read, memorize, and recite the Quran, and those with advanced theological training become Ulema (religious scholars). Each of the different schools of Islamic thought in Pakistan, including the Sunni Deobandis, Barelvis, Ahle-Hadith (Salafi), and Jamaat-e-Islami (JI) as well as the Shiia, runs its own seminaries.
From a counterterrorism perspective, U.S. policymakers should focus their attention on the handful of madrassas in Pakistan that have well-established links to terrorism. These madrassas are likely well known to the Pakistani authorities and increasingly to U.S. intelligence and policy officials, and deserve special focus in our counterterrorism policies. The Darul Uloom Haqqania located near Peshawar in the Northwest Frontier Province, for example, served as training ground for Taliban leaders and a recruiting center for Pakistani militants fighting in Kashmir.
Other madrassas connected to violent militancy are located in the southern port city of Karachi as well as in the province of Punjab and have also contributed to sectarian tensions in the country. The banned Kashmiri militant organization Jaish-e-Muhammad (JEM, or "Army of the Prophet") and Sunni sectarian organization Sepah-e-Sahaba (SSP, or "Army of Companions of the Prophet") are headquartered in southern Punjab.
These organizations have close institutional links with the Taliban and have been involved in terrorism against Indian and Western targets, including the murder of Wall Street Journal reporter Daniel Pearl in 2002; the hijacking of an Indian Airlines flight that landed in Kandahar, Afghanistan, in December 1999; and the kidnapping and murder of five Western hostages, including American citizen Donald Hutchings, in 1995.
These madrassas and associated militant groups have an interdependent relationship in which the militant groups provide armed backing for the madrassas, and the madrassas in turn provide motivated recruits for the militant organizations. The recently jailed leader of a fertilizer bomb plot in England--British citizen of Pakistani-origin Omar Khyam--was reportedly inspired and trained by Pakistanis involved in militancy in Kashmir. In addition, one of the suicide bombers who carried out the July 7, 2005, bombings of the London transport system reportedly spent time at a Pakistani madrassa. Convincing the Pakistan government to completely close down these dangerous militant groups and to sever their links with the madrassas should be the centerpiece of our counterterrorism policies in Pakistan.
Madrassas in Pakistan are financed either by voluntary charity, foreign entities, or governments. The Saudi Arabian organization, Harmain Islamic Foundation, reportedly has provided substantial financial assistance to the Ahle-Hadith madrassas, which have provided fighters to the banned Kashmiri militant group Lashkar-e-Tayyaba (LET). The Ahle-Hadith madrassas emphasize the Quran and Hadith (sayings of the Prophet Muhammed) and oppose folk Islam and practices such as celebrating the anniversaries of saints or the distribution of food on religious occasions. The large madrassa complex supporting LET is located in the town of Muridke outside of Lahore and is well known for preaching hard-line views on Islam. Since the Pakistan government officially banned LET in 2002, the group has changed its name to Jamaat-ul-Dawa and played a significant role in assisting victims following the October 8, 2005, South Asia earthquake, demonstrating its ability to operate freely within Pakistani society.
President Musharraf's government has had little success with its attempts to assert greater government authority over the madrassas. In August of 2001, the Musharraf government promulgated the "Pakistan Madrassa Education Board Ordinance 2001" to establish three model madrassa institutions in Karachi, Sukkur, and Islamabad that would include English, math, computer science, economics, political science, law, and Pakistan studies in their curricula. Through the "Voluntary Registration and Regulation Ordinance 2002," the government promised funding to madrassas that formally registered with the government. In a more controversial step, the Pakistani government demanded that madrassas expel all foreign students by December 31, 2005. Islamist groups vehemently resisted the government's efforts, however, and authorities backed down and made public statements indicating that they would not use force or shut down noncompliant madrassas to enforce the directives.
The Minister for Religious Affairs, Ejaz ul-Haq, son of the late former President Zia ul-Haq, is responsible for implementing madrassa reform. It was Zia ul-Haq's Islamization policies in the 1980s that resulted in an expansion of the madrassa network to support the Afghanistan jihad against the Soviets and that incorporated militant interpretations of Islam into the public school curriculum. Minister Ejaz ul-Haq has so far been reluctant to confront the prominent religious parties that have ties to foreign-funded madrassas and are resisting government reform.
I've seen plenty people like this. usually they have been molested by some mullah and take their anger out on bearded people. I have a family member who was beaten in a madrassa when he was young, now he doesn't even pray. Sadly, these people don't heal.
Now tell me, can your dear Taliban brothers give you hundres of millions of dollars to improve the education and health system in Pakistan. No, they can only give suicide bombers and brainwashed fanatics bent on chopping off the head of anyone who disagrees with them.
China is a great friend of Pakistan, but so is the US. When the 2005 earthquake struck, the Americans were the first to answer our call for assistance. They were there in Azad Kashmir within hours with helicopters and relief supplies. The US army sent it's doctors and they are now funding the construction of schools, hospitals and housing.
And the reason you are seeing suicide bombings is because of Zia-ul-Haq's Islamization era. Thanks to him madrassas were encouraged and thus began the brainwashing of innocent you men who the ISI thought it could use against India. Turns out it came back to bite us in the ***. Hard.
The reason for the suicide bombings in Pakistan is simple. The madrassas. Every single madrassa should be registered and forced to hire competent teachers and teach real subjects like Urdu, English, Math, Science and PE. Any mullah who tries to teach "jihad" should be hanged by his balls.
And I suppose that by disagreeing with the policies of superpower, I am being classified as a taliban supporter or perhaps a terrorist? Everyone here can clearly see why you would voice your hate against anyone who even musters the courage to defend islam, mr. "I just do not like that culture at all. I love white culture"
Seriously, give up your pathetic attempts to modernize or "enlighten" muslims about the "greatness" of the west. and dude, you've been watching way too much FOX news.
Wrong, it is expected from US who threatened to "bomb" pakistan "back to the stone age." Pakistan looses $10 billion a year for fighting a war that it had originally nothing to do with. The US was forced into helping pakistan in it's hour of need. Besides that, almost all of the aid was sadly given in the forms of loans, not money to heal wounds. Even India offered to send aid to pakistan.
Wrong, again. It is ultimately Soviet and US war against each other that lead to the "klashnikov" culture we have in pakistan today. It's ironic, when pakistan is accused of not doing enough on the WOT, Charlie Wilson's War hits theatres. Perhaps the director is trying to get a message out to the public.
However, there's no need to be gloomy about it. After Soviet Union stepped into our backyard, there were uprisings involving BLA, pashtunistan, and sindhudesh. It was absolutely necessary for Zia to make this move at that time. You may criticize his policies, but I think at that time, it was Pakistan that became a powerful force to be reckoned with which brought down a superpower to its knees. Besides, your whole army and intelligence agency, the people who really control pakistan(hint: state within a state) that you have a fan club on, supports islamization and jihad. I'm only stating the facts, as an observer.
jihad is mentioned in the Qur'an, there's simply nothing you can do about it. Madrassas have already been registered and are in govt. records. You'd be surprised with how much control the govt. wields over madaris.
Of course Taliban is not building hospitals, but they are building schools. Please explain why they are getting so much support from afghanistan, so much so that they have their eyes for Kabul now? These articles should make it a little clear, read closely.Did you answer my question? Can the Taliban build schools and hospitals for you in FATA and the earthquake areas?
Doctors reach Afghan earthquake zone
You want Pakistan to be friendly to the Taliban. That only means one thing. You sympathize with them and want Pakistan to be a Taliban state.
Extremists like Nawaz Sharif and Imran Khan can bark all they want about Pakistan's alliance with the US. Fact of the matter is since 2001 Pakistan's phenomenal growth comes down to one fundamental reason: USA's help and support. Througout our history whenever we've been allied with the US, our growth has been high.
During the 90s when the US was displeased at us, our country was on the verge of bankruptcy. At that time we were compelled by India's move to test our nukes and we had no choice, but this time around we have a clear choice. Choose to defeat the forces of evil and extremism, or choose to let the lives of over a thousand Pakistani army jawans go to waste and abandon this virtuous fight against militancy and terrorism.
You are saying the our policies are dictated by the US, you're only denying the fact that you're saying it. I agree with you, we had no choice but to join this war. However, it was to save Pakistan at that time and probably even right now. Although I support Musharraf, I believe it was best for the media to project Musharraf as dictator that was supported by the US. now it has provided us with leverage in this war. If our politicians like Nawaz would stop worrying about musharraf in power and actually focus on pakistan like they said they would, we could declare neutrality in this war.I'm not saying our policies should be dictated by what the US says, but what is in Pakistans interests. Fighting this war is clearly in Pakistans interest. Anyone should be able to see that, unless they are brainwashed supporters of the Taliban or simply illiterate or simply too nationalistic to accept US help and support.
This wasn't really meant to be a debate. Besides that, I expected you to have paid attention to the various posts regarding pakistani public opinion, economic aid as addressed in the economic section, or just articles on the peoples of pakistan provided by Jana. However, since you insist, I have accepted your requests.Back up your claims with a source please, like I did with mine. Otherwise your words are empty rhetoric.
Zia had no need to introduce barbaric Hudood laws and other retarded legislation into Pakistani law. He wanted to create a theocratic state contrary to Jinnahs vision. Served him right that he blew up.
And it wasn't the Russians who sent the AKs across the border. It's the monster we created, the Taliban, which after having won a war soley due to American support decided to spread it's tentacles into Pakistan.
Americans were the ones who created the Taliban and the ones who were the sole reason for the defeat of the Soviets by giving stinger missiles to the Taliban. But of course, the fighters thought it was some sort of divine message by Allah to destroy the very superpower which had helped them defend Afghanistan. They thought it was a message to take on the greatest infidel of them all, the US. The US didn't know how these fanatics thought, so they conveniently forgot about it thinking it was over forever.
Zia could have helped the fighters in Afghanistan without planting the madrassa culture in Pakistan. There was no need for it. He was just a religious nutjob who thought he could brainwash these men about "shahadat" and all that and send them to Kashmir
And no, the whole army does not support Islamization. The man in charge of the army for many years, Musharraf, fought against these enemies of Pakistan and all senior Pakistani officers are aware that the Taliban are a serious threat to Pakistan. The ISI might still have some remnants of the 80s who are in support of still sending madrassa graduates militants to India, but that can't be done anymore, it is just not feasible.
Salaam,
I need all the videos of Zaid Hamid, specially the one on last night.... i.e 26/03/08.... can anybody provide the links for videos.....?
Wassalaam
Avais
hey guys can anyone give me Mr.Zaid Hamid's no. respect him for the only sane man on television...............