Zaid Hamid Vs Nadeem Paracha of Dawn news

[EjazR]

In an attempt to find the "middle ground" we dont mix Milk with Urine. Remember Zaid has no Ideology of Himself.. We are only learning Ideology of Allama Iqbal who wrote "Sare Jahan Se Acha".. Remeber that guy who presented Idea of Pakistan? We need his wisdom and philosophy to stand for the second time and there couldn't be any better time than Now!

The problem is it is only ZH interpretation of what Allama Iqbal thought and there is no one doing an honest critique of what he says. Iqbal never even used the word "Pakistan" in his speeches or writings.

On another note, I'm glad to see that there is a good section of Pakistanis who can see through right-wing propaganda on matters of principle and confront it even if there is strong public opinion against it.

My own experience/take on ZH:
When discussing half-truths and false info(with proofs) in ZHs speeches with a Pakistani friend, he finally agreed that he is "over the top" but it is necessary to have people like him to inculcate "nationalism" even if what he is saying might not be the truth.
He explained that, basically that he does what the VHP/Bajrang Dal people do in India albeit in a more sophisticated manner.
P.S. VHP e.t.c. claim to inculcate "cultural nationalism"

In the current environment it is understandable that he has a large viewer base and he must be getting really rich with his newfound popularity.

 

[graphican]

In the current environment it is understandable that he has a large viewer base and he must be getting really rich with his newfound popularity.

Money is not every one's only reason to act. Zaid is not Zardari.

 

[Meesna]

Paracha comments on the programme and Zaid Hamid in general;

http://blog.dawn.com:91/dblog/2009/08/11/in-defence-of-reason/

 

[U-571]

is there any reason, why dear indians wont be going crazy n obsessed over these people like Nadeem paracha the sicko, pervez hoodbhoy(yes the same man who is against pakistan nuclear programme) the psycho, and asma jahangir the black hag. because these are the people who say every thing which indians like to hear. asma went to india and there she loudly expressed in indian media that pakistan was behind those attacks. enjoying cnn bbc interviews of Mukhtar Mai???

and wonder why indians would be loving the indian born writer Arundhati Roy???, who speaks against indian brutality in kashmir and they say, they wanna throw her into pakistan.

 

[LiberalPakistani]

Nadeem Paracha resembles the image of "modern Islam" which very much suit our young brothers living in UK,US and Canada while on the other hand Zaid Hamid infact is a veteran in Afgan war againts soviet who was in the heart of the Battlefield like Hamid Gul which resembles truth you can see there interpetion in PA's Major comment on foreign funding that it is indeed RAW,CIA and MOSSAD................which is often said by Zaid Hamid and Hamid Gul.Who ever likes Nadeem Paracha is probably living in Pakistan and a fantasy world everyday day dreaming of reaching US and making Million of Dollars on the other hand people who like Zaid Hamid are Pro-Islamic / will fight wars upon needed theres a big difference fighting a war and Learning MBA political science in a University.

 

[EjazR]

Paracha comments on the programme and Zaid Hamid in general;

http://blog.dawn.com:91/dblog/2009/08/11/in-defence-of-reason/

Well I didn't know this Nadeem guy before but he really demolished ZH in his blog.

The funiest thing is I didn't know he actually called Hamid Mir a CIA agent. I have seen his interviews and read his books and I wouldnt know a more concerned and patriotic Pakistani than him and he calls him a CIA agent?

That is even worse that the all time classics "Ajmal Kasab is Amar Singh!"

 

[Spring Onion]

Paracha comments on the programme and Zaid Hamid in general;

http://blog.dawn.com:91/dblog/2009/08/11/in-defence-of-reason/

This clearly implies Mr Nadeem Paracha lost his grounds thats why he came up with this piece as always to defend himself. Otherwise Mr Paracha the Dawn has given equal time to you as well to continue dishing out your unchallenged monologues that too no on in front of you But too bad you were busy showing off your costly lap top too cheap man

I would have supported Mr Paracha only if every second write of his was any different than usual rhetoric which ends up every time at bashing Islam and Zaid Hamid.

This paranoid attitude of Mr Paracha has made his writing redundant and a sane person would like to notice that.

Mr Paracha you are so much sick that you even do not spare people who support views of mr Zaid.

This Paracha man has even stooped to so low that he dragged Ali Azmat and the famouse fashion Designer Maria B into his write up (which by the way was on music and not on Zaid hamid) But still this man Paracha had dragged the poor souls just because one was hosting a program on Iqbal and the other was having some praise for Mr Zaid.

Check all his write ups and you will fins each and everyone of it contain anti-Islam propaganda or anti-Zaid Hamid.

And oh i remember this man has also praised the terrorists for hijacking Pakistani plane to Kabul.

 

[EjazR]

Nadeem Paracha resembles the image of "modern Islam" which very much suit our young brothers living in UK,US and Canada while on the other hand Zaid Hamid infact is a veteran in Afgan war againts soviet who was in the heart of the Battlefield like Hamid Gul which resembles truth you can see there interpetion in PA's Major comment on foreign funding that it is indeed RAW,CIA and MOSSAD................which is often said by Zaid Hamid and Hamid Gul.Who ever likes Nadeem Paracha is probably living in Pakistan and a fantasy world everyday day dreaming of reaching US and making Million of Dollars on the other hand people who like Zaid Hamid are Pro-Islamic / will fight wars upon needed theres a big difference fighting a war and Learning MBA political science in a University.

Please don't connect Islam with ZH, you are insulting 1 Billion plus people when you say that. You may say he is a patriotic Pakistani if you like, but no need to link him to Islam. I don't think any true muslim will encourage a girl without hijab to sit with him if he had the choice. Maybe ZH is portraying your version of "modernism"

 

[Spring Onion]

In the current environment it is understandable that he has a large viewer base and he must be getting really rich with his newfound popularity.

Mr Zaid Hamid even does not own a house no property and his personal account is empty

Whatever he earns he spend it in way of Allah among the poor (only gives small amount to pay house rent and fulfil basic needs of his family) rest he distribute among poor.
so do not jump to write things which you do not know.

 

[EjazR]

This clearly implies Mr Nadeem Paracha lost his grounds thats why he came up with this piece as always to defend himself. Otherwise Mr Paracha the Dawn has given equal time to you as well to continue dishing out your unchallenged monologues that too no on in front of you But too bad you were busy showing off your costly lap top too cheap man

I would have supported Mr Paracha only if every second write of his was any different than usual rhetoric which ends up every time at bashing Islam and Zaid Hamid.

This paranoid attitude of Mr Paracha has made his writing redundant and a sane person would like to notice that.

Mr Paracha you are so much sick that you even do not spare people who support views of mr Zaid.

This Paracha man has even stooped to so low that he dragged Ali Azmat and the famouse fashion Designer Maria B into his write up (which by the way was on music and not on Zaid hamid) But still this man Paracha had dragged the poor souls just because one was hosting a program on Iqbal and the other was having some praise for Mr Zaid.

Check all his write ups and you will fins each and everyone of it contain anti-Islam propaganda or anti-Zaid Hamid.

And oh i remember this man has also praised the terrorists for hijacking Pakistani plane to Kabul.

Nice pickup on the laptop, but what he said was he didnt know what ZH was going to say, and clearly ZH knew what Nadeem had said, so that was unfair in a way.

Plus there was nothing anti-Islamic in his blog (atleast in this entry). But anti-ZH yes, I agree.

 

[Spring Onion]

Please don't connect Islam with ZH, you are insulting 1 Billion plus people when you say that. You may say he is a patriotic Pakistani if you like, but no need to link him to Islam. I don't think any true muslim will encourage a girl without hijab to sit with him if he had the choice. Maybe ZH is portraying your version of "modernism"

OHMG what a pitty . It is not the domain of Mr Zaid Hamid to choose the host or decide what she or he should wear but its the TV channel and trust me Mr Hamid is not Mullah to force the host lady to have a Hijab.

And hey what a hypocracy on your part, when someone stresses on wearing Hijab by women you call him an extremist and fundamentalist and here you are terming it a trait of a true Muslim to force ladies to wear Hijab.

 

[LiberalPakistani]

Please don't connect Islam with ZH, you are insulting 1 Billion plus people when you say that. You may say he is a patriotic Pakistani if you like, but no need to link him to Islam. I don't think any true muslim will encourage a girl without hijab to sit with him if he had the choice. Maybe ZH is portraying your version of "modernism"

I am probably insulting those people who drinks Alchol go to clubs and call them selves "MODERN MUSLIMS" and than people question me look he's Muslims hes drinking going to club its alright nothing wrong with that we don't need this is Muslims after drinking and stuff you go call themselves Muslims and rest Mulvi's are bad thats what you meant to see kid i have cousins who are Alims who studied in Ashraful Madaress so please you insulting those 1 million true Muslims i don't support 1Billion numbers doesn't matter look @ Isreal we rather be in small numbers and resemble true Islam and its beauty rather than everyone having thier different version of Islam is such a shame i fell bad inside when people drink and than call them seleve's Muslims in School.

 

[Spring Onion]

Nice pickup on the laptop, but what he said was he didnt know what ZH was going to say, and clearly ZH knew what Nadeem had said, so that was unfair in a way.

Plus there was nothing anti-Islamic in his blog (atleast in this entry). But anti-ZH yes, I agree.

lolz and how does mr Zaid hamid knew what Mr Paratha was going to say ???


Specially when mr Zaid Hamid was interviewed on a very very short notice upon his visit to Karachi and specially when Mr Paracha is an employee of Dawn.com where as Mr Zaid Hamid has no link with Dawn.

So tell me how does Mr Hamid knew what Mr Paracha was going to say ???

He doesnt know telepathy as far as i know him

 

[Righteous_Fire]

and asma jahangir the black hag.

Nadeem Paracha resembles the image of "modern Islam"

Hardly! the man is anything but that, I mean he proclaims to be...........you know what I mean

called Hamid Mir a CIA agent. I have seen his interviews and read his books and I wouldnt know a more concerned and patriotic Pakistani than him and he calls him a CIA agent?

I've heard someone else call Hamid Mir that too! but I think his work speaks volumes about him, he's a good

But too bad you were busy showing off your costly lap top too cheap man

Mr Paracha you are so much sick that you even do not spare people who support views of mr Zaid.

This Paracha man has even stooped to so low that he dragged Ali Azmat and the famouse fashion Designer Maria B into his write up (which by the way was on music and not on Zaid hamid) But still this man Paracha had dragged the poor souls just because one was hosting a program on Iqbal and the other was having some praise for Mr Zaid.

I've always sided in the middle between Paracha and Hamid but more on Paracha's side But yes, things like that which Mr paracha does make you feel

 

[EjazR]

Mr Zaid Hamid even does not own a house no property and his personal account is empty

Whatever he earns he spend it in way of Allah among the poor (only gives small amount to pay house rent and fulfil basic needs of his family) rest he distribute among poor.
so do not jump to write things which you do not know.

That is really good if that's true. But no doubt his company is making money. You really can't say that the TV channels are not paying him millions to host shows. Each of his "reports" cost $300 a piece.

And dont start on the gold dinar. Im just surprised that even though ZH has been a Musharraf supporter, there are still so many pakistanis who like him?