A seven hour sleep and look the thread his 4 pages long now.
Firstly, Jana and Thunder Omni Role, you have taken it as your personal duty to defend him and bash him respectively. The point of a logical argument is that one never gets emotionally involved and tries to look at matters objectively. Thunder Omni Role has crossed all limits of accusations, freemason, rented houses, masonic churches and what not. A bunch of bullcrap cannot help the discussion.
Secondly, nobody has yet replied to the videos that I linked in the first reply. The 53min audio which was presented in the court is the same one as the 9 or 10 min audio which was uploaded an year or two back. In that audio we could hear Yusuf calling everybody a Sahabi and introducing ZH as being a Sahabi (in
Zaid Hamid was presented during the course of this sermon. He clearly heard Yusuf comparing himself with Muhammad (Ghar e Hira and Bait ur Raza comparison, yahaan 100 sahabi hain aur sahabi wohi hota hai na jis ney sohbat e rasool mein imaan ke saat waqt guzara ho), he also heard Yusuf nearly claiming to be God (Muhammad or Allah aik hain, jab Allah ka noor insaan mein aata hai to woh Muhammad ban jata hai). These two claims were hardly claims of a sufi, mystic or as Zaid Hamid referred to him an "Islamic Scholar".
It also debunks the lie that according to ZH, he never met Yusuf Ali after 1992 when he moved to Rawalpindi. This sermon was recorded on Feb 28, 1997.
Even if ZH made a mistake and did not realize that Yusuf was committing Kazb like the hundreds of other people listening to Yusuf and following him, he left no stone unturned when it came to the court trial. Zaid Hamid was present during the court trial and he must have listened to the prosecutor as well.
The evidence against him was the audio, his diary, 14 eyewitness accounts, the card/NIC and a video as well. Another blog has obtained the court documents as well
Finally, any sane person can reach a conclusion after hearing the sermon that something fishy is going on here. Yusuf is clearly making claims of prophethood or even being God himself. It is then upto the scholars to determine the real truth and the judge to give him a fair trial. Even if ZH was naive back then and didn't realize the height of the claims Yusuf was making, now can be the time. Instead of shamelessly trying to disassociate himself from the allegations, he could have accepted the reality. Now that he has been forced to accept that he was an acquaintance, he has tried to claim that the other side was being revengeful and Yusuf was innocent. He has tried to inciter deobandi-barelvi fight, but the claim that only deobandis were after him has been laid to rest as well. He also claimed that the maulvis got Yusuf killed in Kot Lakhpat. Now, he himself has made allegations of murder and no Sharia evidence is required to backup these claims but it is ZH and whatever he says mus be true including that Ajmal Kasab is Amar Singh.
Nobody has yet debunked any of the seven points in my first post on this thread. I would very much appreciate if somebody can correct me if I am wrong and I would appreciate if you could point out any wrong claims. I will mind it though if the replies are as BS as the masonic claims or if somebody goes on a rampage of accusations against me or the people who have obtained the evidence.
It is time that he comes out without any further lies
so true...
