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Lolz no so wrong here.
Then who are green pagri walas.
And Abdul wahab the guy who is said to be the father of wahabi ideology. The poor guy is unnecessarily maligned. Its just that in 17 th century or i forgot when he came, people had introduced wrong and infidel practices into islam, so he rose and spoke against it, and tried to revive real teachings. He got railed for that. Now over periods of here what saudi wahabis made out of abdul wahab and turnes into extreme versions and deoband ulmas as well is not abdul wahab's fault.
The guy is unnecessarily malignee , iwould suggest do lil research on the history. And sorry but neither our deoband ulmas nor barelvis are any good.

Green pagri wala are brailvi.
Yes :) that poor guy is maligned.Even he has very little followers in Pakistan. Muhammad ibn Abd al-Wahhab - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Agree we have corrupt religious, political and military elite. But again they are from us and we as a whole nation are morally going downwards day by day from ordinary shopkeeper to president.
 
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I don't know man.

Muslims have one life. Then they wait for Judgment.

The wait is what they live for. How they live, what they do.

I have never heard anything about what happens AFTER Judgment Day.

Nobody even knows what happens on that day. Nobody has yet come back to talk about.... so never mind that. :)
 
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Nobody even knows what happens on that day. Nobody has yet come back to talk about.... so never mind that. :)

Interesting that you say that. Because another question I have is whether there are regular Judgment Days to take care of successive generations or there is one big Judgment Day and we (mankind) are in the lead up to it.

What after that?
 
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No ttp are foreign funded terrorists,their religion doesnt count here.
But which school massacre you are talking about?? Plz share.?!?
yeah they are foreign funded. (No objection)
i was talking about slaughter of children took place on Youm e Ashoorah.

I just mentioned it to end sectarian conflict in this forum. Though i believe none of Muslim was involved in this incident.
 
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Green pagri wala are brailvi.
Yes :) that poor guy is maligned.Even he has very little followers in Pakistan. Muhammad ibn Abd al-Wahhab - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Agree we have corrupt religious, political and military elite. But again they are from us and we as a whole nation are morally going downwards day by day from ordinary shopkeeper to president.
Its not about following. See islam forbids grave worships, building shrine monuments , its all clear and hadees and so many more things.now if wayward practices were made a part of islam ,and someone gets up and points it the he gets slammed around for that. This man revived the teachings,but unfortunately the myopic muslims, like saudi wahabism went extreme ward sin those teachings. Now ppl without reading history and researching facts buy whatever negativity is spewed against abdul wahab.
See wahabism in saudia and whatever of it is floursihing in pakistan alongwith psycho barelvisim are all product of corrupt ulema's and people'a own twisted ideologies.
Where in islam comes extemism. I dont see.
Rememeber when JJ made silly remarks on hazrat ayesha despitw his apology , green pagri had created so much noie. That was so lame. It wasnt really blasphemy even but ya a very stupid foolish mistake.
And as of moral corruption,then our 70 years of history and not a single good leader itself is a reflection of what kind of people we are.
 
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Interesting that you say that. Because another question I have is whether there are regular Judgment Days to take care of successive generations or there is one big Judgment Day and we (mankind) are in the lead up to it.

What after that?


Do I even care about all that?
All I have think about is facing up to my wife. :D
Because that is really serious...... than something unknown, maybe even mythical.
 
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yeah they are foreign funded. (No objection)
i was talking about slaughter of children took place on Youm e Ashoorah.

I just mentioned it to end sectarian conflict in this forum. Though i believe none of Muslim was involved in this incident.
Sorry i am a bit slow person,i amnot getting which salughter of youm e ashoora, where in pakistan nd which madrassah. Is it some deoband madrassah?
 
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Do I even care about all that?
All I have think about is facing up to my wife. :D
Because that is really serious...... than something unknown, maybe even mythical.

Sorry sir.

I am feeling unusually questiony today.

And it helps that I do not have a wife. :)
 
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Interesting that you say that. Because another question I have is whether there are regular Judgment Days to take care of successive generations or there is one big Judgment Day and we (mankind) are in the lead up to it.

What after that?

In islam there is only one day of judgement. Then we all will be resurrected and brought before God and evaluated on our deeds done on earth. and then the eternal life of hell and heaven will continue for good. No more coming back to earth.
 
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Sorry i am a bit slow person,i amnot getting which salughter of youm e ashoora, where in pakistan nd which madrassah. Is it some deoband madrassah?
yes i guess it happened two years back. Curfew was imposed in Rawalpindi by forces
 
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In islam there is only one day of judgement. Then we all will be resurrected and brought before God and evaluated on our deeds done on earth. and then the eternal life of hell and heaven will continue for good. No more coming back to earth.

You say resurrected - implying sleep/death state till such time.

Then you say heaven or hell will continue for good. Does that imply that during the holding/waiting stage, you have already been processed (for want of a better word) and are waiting in either area?

This also means that some will have to wait a LOT longer than others.

When does the Day of Judgment happen? Is there a date and mankind has so many years/centuries/millenia to go? Or is it sudden, based on God's whim?

And after Day of Judgment, does the earth go back to the animals and mankind ceases to exist (since all have now been processed and are in their respective permanent areas)?
 
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Its not about following. See islam forbids grave worships, building shrine monuments , its all clear and hadees and so many more things.now if wayward practices were made a part of islam ,and someone gets up and points it the he gets slammed around for that. This man revived the teachings,but unfortunately the myopic muslims, like saudi wahabism went extreme ward sin those teachings. Now ppl without reading history and researching facts buy whatever negativity is spewed against abdul wahab.
See wahabism in saudia and whatever of it is floursihing in pakistan alongwith psycho barelvisim are all product of corrupt ulema's and people'a own twisted ideologies.
Where in islam comes extemism. I dont see.
Rememeber when JJ made silly remarks on hazrat ayesha despitw his apology , green pagri had created so much noie. That was so lame. It wasnt really blasphemy even but ya a very stupid foolish mistake.
And as of moral corruption,then our 70 years of history and not a single good leader itself is a reflection of what kind of people we are.
The Prophet, even whose pet's names are save till today. How come that his teachings are not crystal clear. But for those who want to know and not for those who want to make money from that stuff.
Unfortunately we have more money makers today.
 
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yes i guess it happened two years back. Curfew was imposed in Rawalpindi by forces
Sarmad plz i want details of it. If anyone else knows can u plz tell me. the exact event. I think i have heard of it but somehow dont know details of it. Anyone up for my help here?
You say resurrected - implying sleep/death state till such time.

Then you say heaven or hell will continue for good. Does that imply that during the holding/waiting stage, you have already been processed (for want of a better word) and are waiting in either area?

This also means that some will have to wait a LOT longer than others.

When does the Day of Judgment happen? Is there a date and mankind has so many years/centuries/millenia to go? Or is it sudden, based on God's whim?

And after Day of Judgment, does the earth go back to the animals and mankind ceases to exist (since all have now been processed and are in their respective permanent areas)?
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Doppleganger i am a person of limited knowledge. So i can only offer to share per my understanding and obviously within sphere of my religion. I dont liketo get over worked when discussing religion so that i can calmly get my message accross. So you may or may not benefit a lot from me.
So here we go. Theres a temporary sleep that is night sleep after which we wakeup and go about our businesses.
Then there is death. Thats a permanent one ,and one will remain in that state till the world comes to and end.
Now in deaths case , we believe in a concept of spirit, called rooh, what is exactly rooh what it is made of Allah hasnt told us, Allah mentions it in quran but doesnt tell what it is. So when a human dies his rooh is taken out of his body , its a spark that keeps us alive. And just as its gone human body starts decaying. Now there is a designated place where souls after death are kept above somewhere in heavens and will remain there till end of world. As of grave life i dont know what exactly happens but its said the kind deeds one did in real life according tothat one will suffer in grave, but idont know a lot about it. I have there have been researchers who have tried to do experiments to study what happens to dead body in graves but failed. Anyways, i am a weak hearted person i cant discuss it. But ithink you are a doctor and you know that when a person is burried there come tiny explosion sounds from grave, i think doctors say that its body' decay process where organs sort of explode etc. I dont remember so well
As of judgement day, no, Allah never gave any date but warned us of it. And its not on God's whims.
God has pre written everything about our fates. When we were to be born,what kind of life, color,parents, when we die . Similarly , god has decided day of judgement and through quran and prophet told us about its signs. And as per the prophecies we are nearing end of times cuz many signs have showed up.
See when we speak of day of judgement doppleganger do you ever ask why i dont know my date o death?? Had you known that would you have been able to live a normal healthy life. Also an important thing is day of judgement is a fear that guides us to do good deeds and abstain from evil.
As of day of judgement quran says it will be a day whose duration will be equal to 1000 earth years. On that day all and every humans deeds will be accounted for, someone having to wait long or less long..that idont know. But on that day it wil, happen. Its said it will be a long tiring day but not for those who performed well on earth and followed Allah's commands. Then just as your deeds will be weighed you will be sent to your final abode either hell or heaven. some will make it to hell but after years of punishment and sort of paying for ill deed will be taken out and sent to heaven.
and then eternity will continue. What will happen to earth i dont know. but thats where we human from earth will go . And from our world its only humans that will be resurrected not animals.As Allah gave us this life with a purpose that is to believe in his oneness ,worship him, and fulfill rights of his people that is all humans and be nice to them.
You wont see me as a very good muslim.
 
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Sarmad plz i want details of it. If anyone else knows can u plz tell me. the exact event. I think i have heard of it but somehow dont know details of it. Anyone up for my help here?

well, the incident took place on y0um asho0rah (nov 15, 2013, friday) after sermon by a deoband madrasah. Due to which 13 children were slaughtered in deoband madrasah, that evening 3 children were also slaughtered in shia madrasah. The conflict c0ntinued and shops were burnt in raja bazar. Media first started broad casting incident of madrasahs but were rem0ved so0n. Thats why use of loudspeaker to deliver sermons is banned.
You may get some info here:(replace @ with . and * with /)
dawn@com*news*1056553
 
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