Z-10 test flight over Rawalpindi

[AwA.]

Mostly in evening but area is not same all the time.

Is Z-10 still flying with an escort heli? I have read somewhere in this thread that now 2 Z-10 are flying without any escort heli?

 

[Sine Nomine]

Is Z-10 still flying with an escort heli? I have read somewhere in this thread that now 2 Z-10 are flying without any escort heli?

Yes flights are being carried out solo without any escort.

 

[AwA.]

Yes flights are being carried out solo without any escort.

Last evening it was Pakistan Army Bell 412 hovering over the Dhamyal and Adyala road area.

 

[Sanchez]

HJ-10 anti-tank missles
similar to AGM-114

Well that is good but according to a member here Pakistan would also go for T-129. By the which Anti Tank Missile would be used by us on WZ-10 ??

Read this, I don't think China has many or proper supply of Z10.

Military Contractors Are Fined Over Aid to China
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/29/b...ontractor-pleads-guilty-on-china-exports.html

Engine is no longer a problem. The present production of z-10 is below 40/year.

 

[Bilal.]

HJ-10 anti-tank missles
similar to AGM-114

Engine is no longer a problem. The present production of z-10 is below 40/year.

When is it supposed to get WZ-16?

 

[qwerrty]

When is it supposed to get WZ-16?

this is the latest news regarding the engine

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Turbomeca at Airshow China: high performance engines tailored to Chinese market
11/14/2014 | Safran group

© Turbomeca
Turbomeca (Safran) is showcasing its innovative products for helicopter market at Airshow China 2014, from 11th to 16th November 2014. Two mockups will be featured at the Safran booth (Hall 1, D3-6): Ardiden 3C and Arrius 2 turboshaft engines.

Developed in 50/50 partnership with Avic Engine, Ardiden 3C was ground tested for the first time in Bordes (France) in November 2013. Named WZ16 in China, the 1,700 shaft horsepower class Ardiden 3C belongs to the Ardiden 3 engine family, dedicated to the 6 to 8 ton helicopter segment. Ardiden 3C/WZ16 has been selected to power Avicopter AC352, jointly developed with Airbus Helicopters.

The Ardiden 3C/WZ16 program is the result of a strong and long lasting cooperation between Turbomeca and Avic. Through this partnership, operators and aircraft manufacturers will benefit from the know-how and experience of two key players in the field of aircraft propulsion.

Arrius 2 is one of Turbomeca’s best-selling engine families with over 3000 units delivered worldwide, logging around 6.6 Million flight hours. This 450 to 750 shaft horsepower engine family exhibits a robust design, with two main modules, and a new generation dual-channel FADEC system (Full Authority Digital Engine Control). Arrius 2 is one of the best engines in its class for single and twin engine helicopters. Recently, it has been selected by Bell Helicopter to power the Bell 505 Jet Ranger X.

In September 2013, Turbomeca also strengthened its proximity support in China, by opening a new technical support center in Tianjin, dedicated to the Arrius, Arriel and Makila engines operated in the area.

Turbomeca has an established presence in China with over 500 engines in operation in the country, and 40 years of cooperation with the Chinese industry. One Chinese-registered helicopter out of two is equipped with Turbomeca engines or licensed products.

 

[Sanchez]

When is it supposed to get WZ-16?

120 wz-16 ordered last year

 

[Bilal.]

120 wz-16 ordered last year

So the up-engined WZ-10 can be expected to be unvieled anytime now!

 

[Sanchez]

So the up-engined WZ-10 can be expected to be unvieled anytime now!

I am not sure...WZ-16 is also said to be the power house for WZ-20.

 

[Icarus]

Sir jee 23mm chain gun is enough to destroy the TTP foot soldiers and their technicals.

Sir the gun is irrelevant to the concern that I am highlighting. The Z-10 has next generation weaponry and design that makes it ideal for anti-armour roles but there's not much information about how it handles in high altitudes, how maneuverable it is and how much of a beating it can take. You might have caught news of a Cobra that had to crash land in Khyber after a good foot of it's main rotar was clipped by an RPG, the same heli was able to fly to Peshawar after a brief period on the ground.

 

[Pinnacle]

Well well well.It seems future plans of PAA are to make z-10 cavalary of AH-1z viper.AH-1F will be kept sometime to do COIN operations,while z-10 will serve as medium tier and will perform COIN+Anti Armor and ZULU will be kept aside for Purely Anti Armor Role for our neighbours.This makes sense.

 

[fatman17]

Sir the gun is irrelevant to the concern that I am highlighting. The Z-10 has next generation weaponry and design that makes it ideal for anti-armour roles but there's not much information about how it handles in high altitudes, how maneuverable it is and how much of a beating it can take. You might have caught news of a Cobra that had to crash land in Khyber after a good foot of it's main rotar was clipped by an RPG, the same heli was able to fly to Peshawar after a brief period on the ground.

I guess we will find out soon enough won't we

this is the latest news regarding the engine

--

Turbomeca at Airshow China: high performance engines tailored to Chinese market
11/14/2014 | Safran group

© Turbomeca
Turbomeca (Safran) is showcasing its innovative products for helicopter market at Airshow China 2014, from 11th to 16th November 2014. Two mockups will be featured at the Safran booth (Hall 1, D3-6): Ardiden 3C and Arrius 2 turboshaft engines.

Developed in 50/50 partnership with Avic Engine, Ardiden 3C was ground tested for the first time in Bordes (France) in November 2013. Named WZ16 in China, the 1,700 shaft horsepower class Ardiden 3C belongs to the Ardiden 3 engine family, dedicated to the 6 to 8 ton helicopter segment. Ardiden 3C/WZ16 has been selected to power Avicopter AC352, jointly developed with Airbus Helicopters.

The Ardiden 3C/WZ16 program is the result of a strong and long lasting cooperation between Turbomeca and Avic. Through this partnership, operators and aircraft manufacturers will benefit from the know-how and experience of two key players in the field of aircraft propulsion.

Arrius 2 is one of Turbomeca’s best-selling engine families with over 3000 units delivered worldwide, logging around 6.6 Million flight hours. This 450 to 750 shaft horsepower engine family exhibits a robust design, with two main modules, and a new generation dual-channel FADEC system (Full Authority Digital Engine Control). Arrius 2 is one of the best engines in its class for single and twin engine helicopters. Recently, it has been selected by Bell Helicopter to power the Bell 505 Jet Ranger X.

In September 2013, Turbomeca also strengthened its proximity support in China, by opening a new technical support center in Tianjin, dedicated to the Arrius, Arriel and Makila engines operated in the area.

Turbomeca has an established presence in China with over 500 engines in operation in the country, and 40 years of cooperation with the Chinese industry. One Chinese-registered helicopter out of two is equipped with Turbomeca engines or licensed products.

For the chinese FADEC was the missing link in its Z10 development and they seem to have it now.

 

[mbausmani]

I saw it too... It was super quiet!

 

[winkey]

 

[mingle]

Sir have we completely dropped the idea of T-129 ?

I hope not I wish we had them in some numbers reason is they selected by turkish army and Anatolian platu is very harsh and tough like pak terrain is very much like pak .WZ 10 according Haris pdf is under power according to Army aviation guys but let see ?