‘You have to neutralise terrorist through terrorist only,’ says Defence Minister Manohar Parrikar

[Spring Onion]

Yeah if you read Pakistani edited version ..... but not if you read the entire discussion of MP.

And what is that if you may explain?

He is clearly saying you can eliminate terrorists by using terrorists so India is funding terrorists

2 things - You can take it as my interpretation

1) Using terrorists to track terrorists, as i posted in this already, 26/11 terrorists were using sim cards believed to have been provided by intelligence agencies...... I am sure you cant walk to a terror camp of LeT and hand over the sim card saying, Yo.... When you go to India use this sim and i am from RAW....... Obviously they will use terrorists for that.....

So India is providing such Facilities to TTP against Pakistan.

2) For an argument sake, Let us accept that he meant using Terrorists..... But he said to Nutralise terrorist, what is wrong in using a terrorist to kill another terrorist...... He never said anything to make you believe that he is funding terrorist activities in Pakistan......

My 2 cents......

But I do not agree or accept the words he used.... He should remember he is no more the CM of Goa and should be more careful using words.....

Indian funded terrorists are killing Innocent Pakistanis NOT neutralizing terrorists .

 

[I M Sikander]

He left others to interpret it in what ever way they want to...... You can make your own interpretations.......

No need of any interpretation, his words were clear .

 

[nair]

Indian funded terrorists are killing Innocent Pakistanis NOT neutralizing terrorists .

That is your interpretation, and he has never said something like that..... As i said in my previous post..... You are free to have your own....

 

[syedali73]

No need of any interpretation, his words were clear .

As if we need some 'Enigma machine' to decipher simple words and the blunt message given through them.

Parrikar had said he would take “proactive steps” to meet any threat to the country, “neutralise terrorist through terrorist” if required.

As you sow, so you reap. Pakistan is experiencing the ill-effects of their own creation,” Singh said.

@Spring Onion

A must read column by Naji saheb on Indian-sponsored terrorism -

Political Columns | Page 43

 

[nair]

No need of any interpretation, his words were clear .

Good

 

[ares]

And what is that if you may explain?

He is clearly saying you can eliminate terrorists by using terrorists so India is funding terrorists



So India is providing such Facilities to TTP against Pakistan.



Indian funded terrorists are killing Innocent Pakistanis NOT neutralizing terrorists .

No, he said ..incase of another 26/11 from Pakistan..how India should react. ..Kante se Kanta nikaal na.


To use Pakistani terrorist to kill Pakistani supported terrorists attacking India.

India has yet to fund any terrorists in Pakistan ...or do you have evidence to support your claims?

 

[nair]

As if we need some 'Enigma machine' to decipher simple words and the blunt message given through them.

@Spring Onion

A must read column by Naji sahib on Indian-sponsored terrorism -

Political Columns | Page 43

Oyee yaar, cant understand what this "Naji Sahib" want to say on this so called "Indian Sponsored Terrorism"....... Can we have some translated version, (if it is available)

 

[Srinivas]

And what is that if you may explain?

He is saying we will bring split in terror groups and will turn them against each other !

This do not come under terror support.

 

[AnnoyingOrange]

So we can interpret that he is calling Indian army as terrorists whom he said GoI has given free hand to eliminate other terrorists.
funny you are comparing a mere member of a defence forum with Indian defence minister .
The onus on parikhar not on me or us. The Indian defence Minister clearly officially accepts that India is funding terrorists against Pakistan.

Period

@Horus

Yes...GOI has given free hand to eliminate terrorists that are anti India... thats' a clear direction.... "as per Def Min. Any Terrorist against India Will be nutralized .. whatever it takes.

 

[Jungibaaz]

@kaku1 @nair

You're sensible members, you're on one hand arguing that he didn't mean DM did not mean what we're interpreting, and then you're saying, well what other choice do we have?

Let's not play this game, in reality both countries are doing their utmost to screw each other over, with India having the upper hand since about 2004, thanks to Afghanistan and the war on terror, which is why Pakistan has been more vulnerable and less willing to turn the tap back on to the higher levels of previous years.

What is odd indeed is that a man in his position has said it outright.

 

[kaku1]

@kaku1 @nair

You're sensible members, you're on one hand arguing that he didn't mean DM did not mean what we're interpreting, and then you're saying, well what other choice do we have?

Let's not play this game, in reality both countries are doing their utmost to screw each other over, with India having the upper hand since about 2004, thanks to Afghanistan and the war on terror, which is why Pakistan has been more vulnerable and less willing to turn the tap back on to the higher levels of previous years.

What is odd indeed is that a man in his position has said it outright.

Definitely we screwing each other since 2004, and now Pakistan is hurting most because tables took 360 degree turn.

But one thing, Raksha Mantri was speaking with heart not with brain, but the thing he said is right. India gave enough time to Pak to dismantle Indian specified terror groups,

Actually 1000 cuts to bleed india was suspended in 2004, but never terminated, and PA still protecting those assets for future. Now, if you are in Indian position, then what you do? Wait for future where this policy start again?

Or hit that much hard , where Pak forcefully sit on negotiation table about terrorism with India?

What is odd indeed is that a man in his position has said it outright.

If you accept it or not, but that is policy of Indian Govt. now to neutralize Pakistan terror card, that Pakistan using since 1988.

Even USA and China, and all other know about this, you know why they are silent?

 

[Jungibaaz]

Definitely we screwing each other since 2004, and now Pakistan is hurting most because tables took 360 degree turn.

But one thing, Raksha Mantri was speaking with heart not with brain, but the thing he said is right. India gave enough time to Pak to dismantle Indian specified terror groups,

Actually 1000 cuts to bleed india was suspended in 2004, but never terminated, and PA still protecting those assets for future. Now, if you are in Indian position, then what you do? Wait for future where this policy start again?

Or hit that much hard , where Pak forcefully sit on negotiation table about terrorism with India?

That's fine, I know this. But when looking at his statment, the two responses I saw here contradict each other. Which is what @Chinese-Dragon was saying.

One argument; the man did not mean that by it, he meant something else, other argument; he may well have meant it, but here's why he would...

You can only back one of those arguments at a time. And the right argument is to say that both countries have been long involved in this game and today's version is hardly different.

If you accept it or not, but that is policy of Indian Govt. now to neutralize Pakistan terror card, that Pakistan using since 1988.

Even USA and China, and all other know about this, you know why they are silent?

Whatever the motivations are, it is foolish for a man in his position to make such a statement.

 

[kaku1]

Whatever the motivations are, it is foolish for a man in his position to make such a statement.

One thing I am not protecting Raksha Mantri, but I am protecting his belief and policies that RM trying to deliver. And every sane man on India, follow the same.
Definitely RM did a blunder in speaking this in public, thats why NSA was trying to cover up his mistake.

On the other note, if you interested what changes come after May 2014 in strategic thinking inside India, I can tell you that.

After May 2014, the Vivekanand International Foundation become the most powerful organization inside India, and Indian Govt. following each and every policy described by them. No need to say RM definitely was briefed by the VIF.
Vivekananda International Foundation | Finding Unity in the Midst of Diversity

From China policy, to Pak. The banning of various NGOs, crackdown on Green Peace. Initiating the process with Vietnam, and thinking again about Quadrilateral dialogue. All are inside on there site.

Currently, they are the most powerful people in India. How they become such powerful, that is different story, I tell you latter.

 

[nForce]

Let's not play this game, in reality both countries are doing their utmost to screw each other over, with India having the upper hand since about 2004, thanks to Afghanistan and the war on terror, which is why Pakistan has been more vulnerable and less willing to turn the tap back on to the higher levels of previous years.

What is odd indeed is that a man in his position has said it outright.

A few points. First, I'll say what the DM said was not right thing to say, if not outright wrong. It's a controversial statement to make and indeed it has created quite a bit of uproar. From what I have learnt from his interviews, he is not exactly good with words. Well, then again, may be he knows what he is doing.

Secondly, a lot of interpretations are flying around. I support one of his ideas, that of simply buying them out. The same idea was pitched in by Ajit Doval. The idea is based on understanding who the terrorist is. They are mainly brainwashed youth coming from poor family background and have grievance in their heart. If they have not been found to be related to serious crimes, then give them rehabilitation package, a few years of sentence and let them come back to mainstream. This technique is quite effective and Indian govt. used it to great effects in curbing the home-grown Kashmiri separatist movements as well as in North East. Lot of extremists surrendered.

Thirdly, I believe, the idiom of "to set a thief to catch a thief" should not extrapolated to mean violent terrorist attacks. It is far more cost-effective and easier to deal with terrorists with soft power.

 

[Nicky G]

He elaborated on what the meaning was in his interview to Karan Thapar that I saw yesterday. Can't find the link, they might not have uploaded it yet, should be up soon though.

From what I recall, first he clarified that the term he used was neutralize, which means to render ineffective, it does not merely mean kill, that would merely be one means to neutralize. It includes financial, diplomatic, social elements among others.

Next, he mentioned that many poor people are drawn in terrorism because of financial reasons. Thus, another way to reduce terrorism would be to provide them jobs - for instance many in valley joining Indian forces; thus, reducing the recruitment scope for extremists.

Anyway, the sense that I get from our DM is not only is he forthright to the point to being direct; this was not a mistake since he doubles down and then says that the the army is not for peace.