Yes: House of Sherifs will Rule us again: Nawaz league wins by Polls

[Proudpakistaniguy]

You known when a nation is dead.
People living in misery and pain won't fight for their due rights. They have accepted their pitiful existence and need no change. Even afraid of change.
This is what a dead nation is and we are a dead nation

Nation need practical change not just fake promises of change ..Leader should not use this slogan of change to fool awaam

 

[Syed1.]

Nation need practical change not just fake promises of change ..Leader should not use this slogan of change to fool awaam

Yeah they should keep voting for people who have already ruled for 30 years... because somehow those who have not shown any performance for 30 years will magically now show performance.

 

[Proudpakistaniguy]

Yeah they should keep voting for people who have already ruled for 30 years... because somehow those who have not shown any performance for 30 years will magically now show performance.

Imran khan has got vote bank in Punjab and has replaced PPP who used to be opposing force against PML(N) but not any more. You can not convince Punjabi people to vote for PTI by abusing them. Imran need to convince them that he is better option for them through performance in KPK where he got the opportunity

 

[Syed1.]

Imran khan has got vote bank in Punjab and has replaced PPP who used to be opposing force against PML(N) but not any more. You can not convince Punjabi people to vote for PTI by abusing them. Imran need to convince them that he is better option for them through performance in KPK where he got the opportunity

Ok man Sharif khandaan will turn Pakistan into Asian tiger

 

[Pakistansdefender]

KPK got the direction and guidance of Imran khan so how they transformed KPK into a ideal province to convince people from others province to vote for him so that he bring same significant change and transformation for them. I want to see Imran khan in power simply because i want to see that how he is going to change this entire system.. Its easy to give hopes and make promises but its hard to implement change ..let see

Look I said we are directionless right now. The sheriffs have ruled us for ages. And we have no direction. No vision. We atleast need a new alternative.
You can call me bias but if you only can open your mental eyes you can see change in kpk.
Usually you know how affairs are managed in kpk and baluchistan. But this year a government, I don't say any thing about Cm, but overall government. Actually try to do something. To bring some change. Reforms have happened. Work on education and police has happened. Even they are doing infrastructure projects.
There is kind of satisfaction in people. People are so coming and comparing their province with Punjab. They are definitely in all leagues better then sindh. Even though sindh has economic hub Karachi.

Secondly I don't say a country can change in a day. But once a good leadership who can communicate with all factions of society and establishment and form a direction. The direction which our directionless nation desparatly needs. The agenda we need. You cannot say that imran Khan cannot dilever.
We need to set our affairs in order. Formulate a good forign policy. Do some much needed economics reforms. Much needed election reforms. Much needed beuracracy reforms. Much needed education reforms, much needed local bodies reform. Mainstream the hardliners. Etc etc.
His chosen kpk government should have performed even better but atleast they tried. And I am quite hopeful with their first term.
But that doesn't mean that he cannot do all the things he say he can. He can collect taxes and do reforms. He do have the power. If he is a prime ministers his actions woukd be different. We cannot judge un less we try him.

 

[DJ_Viper]

You known when a nation is dead.
People living in misery and pain won't fight for their due rights. They have accepted their pitiful existence and need no change. Even afraid of change.
This is what a dead nation is and we are a dead nation

Interesting post.....knowing Pakistan's history, does this post apply to only the current rulers who you guys hate due to their push for democratic control.....or does your statement go back to 60 years ago, when your country's power system was taken over from the people? Please answer sensibly so there can be a discussion. Don't waste posts by name calling and insults. You can't ignore issues till you discuss them.

 

[mingle]

Top leadership defending jahgir tareen when court has disqualified him and worse they gave party ticket to his son to abolish maroosi siysat lol

Realy? His son gonna get any post is party? Like MS or Bilo or Hamza? Grow up rasi jal gye per bal nahi gye

If you are game of thrones fan you would understand one quote with which I want to reply your comment.
'My sweet summer child. What do you know of winter!'

Realy just wait tell how many seats u N won against Q when Ch were in power? My child u get ready for long long winter better look for other job as well. Nahel Nawaz is gone and when GE will come DCO and DPO won't there for help my Son.

 

[Pakistansdefender]

Realy just wait tell how many seats u N won against Q when Ch were in power? My child u get ready for long long winter better look for other job as well. Nahel Nawaz is gone and when GE will come DCO and DPO won't there for help my Son.

Hello summer child
Look if you have read my above post you would have replied differently.
I hate pmln and ppp with same passion as you. But really dude groubd reailty is very very different.
You are very few from the educated class who live in city, keep well informed and can think.
Where the masses don't. The false narrative of nawaz sheriff still sells.
Khatam e nabowat law change has no effect.
I don't want to get disappointed. Same as all. Over pti supporters are. Even in Lahore everyone say pti should win but they won't.
These feaudral thinking uneducated people don't think like us, they are poles as apart , they wanted to be ruled by them

Today I have lost almost all hope of pti coming into power . It is pretty clear pmln would win, amend the law and make nawaz pm again. Then celebrate their fake democracy. After that Maryam (she has such negative wibe and zero qualification) would rule us.
We would be like their mazarah or merasi, even in this new world living in slums which our cities are. And sad part is we don't even need change or demand service or demand no corruption...
This is about to happen. So I am just don't getting my hopes high.
Would go and vote which would probably never count.

 

[Yaseen1]

i think pti failed to become alternative because it is composed of corrupt
people of other parties who joined it.we should ban politics and form govt of nonpolitical honest people mastered in their respective field selected by strong scrutiny and army chief should takeover country to implement it .politics and election waste resources and time

 

[Pakistansdefender]

Interesting post.....knowing Pakistan's history, does this post apply to only the current rulers who you guys hate due to their push for democratic control.....or does your statement go back to 60 years ago, when your country's power system was taken over from the people? Please answer sensibly so there can be a discussion. Don't waste posts by name calling and insults. You can't ignore issues till you discuss them.

Pakistan has been ruled by dictorship and civilian governments. Pakistan has not yet settled and decided it course. I really am not busied. I am an odinary person who just wanted good governance.
Let me tell you our basic problem.
Look when military dictators came, they do have unlimited powers to make reforms, and they do reforms too. But in doing so they need to legitimise themselves. In order to legitimise themselves they need politicians and so they make or buy them. They also are corrupt and of course the politicians who legitimise an illegitimate action, what can you expect from them.
Now the civilian government, the civilian government came and talk about democracy and rule of law.
But they don't deliver. They are awfully corrupt and to some extent have militant wings too.
You can say zardari was not charged but don't we know he is corrupt???
The politicians come and demand the right to rule yet they fail miserably. When they are held accountable they give examples of the dictators.
They ask the same immunity from corruption and inefficiency a dictator enjoys.
If you pm is not corrupt. No power in Pakistan can remove him (I am talking about today's pakistan) . It is very difficult for any dictator to justify interference now. The politicians warning right, left and centre is just a narrative they are developing .
Look pakistan is still ruled by a collaboration. Owing to our long history, one could understand that. After all army is dealing a lot in Baluchistan and fata. The only way you can uphold civilian supremacy is by dilevery. There is no other way. You can become a rebel and fight for democracy. But when you become a pm, your rule is worse then dictators.


Have the civilian government able to solve baluchistan development issues.
Pm has not visited Baluchistan a single time. He didn't even care. Why why why.
Why not he address the issues instead of leaving it to the army because he simply don't care. ( please don't say they don't let him) .
Have you seen members of baluchistan parliament. They are all sardars, Molvis, totally corrupt and inefficient lot sitting.
They are so incapable they tgey have slots for 3500 jobs in Baluchistan from last 2 years. They are not able to hire people for those jobs. How inefficient can you be?
Then last government out of 66 people in Baluchistan assembly 65 are ministers ? Is this how civilian supremacy uphold?
A population of 1 caror people and these inefficient people cannot develop them even after 18th amendment??
They don't know how to govern. And they don't care. They don't give a damn. They just rule. They don't even dilever for face saving.
Go to sindh , a ruling federal party use all the water in their farms, unable to make a single infrastructure projects. Have destroyed the economic hub Karachi. The real injustice they do against Urdu speaking people. What kind of governance is this dude? If course punish them, they say punish the dictator. They say military or establishment is behind the scene .
If you have done something wrong only then one can conspire against you . If you are clean no one can conspire.
You can not have civilian supremacy in a jiffy. We are very much similar to turkey.
Edogan pushed military back but only only only with economic and social reforms. He did something which no one else can do.
In Pakistan if you want civilian supremacy then make politicians who are clean and efficient and then see who can touch them. The more they perform, the more military took a back seat. The more they perform the more army would go back.

When army cleared fata. They ask you to settle the fata. In history never before the people of fata want a merger with kpk. They are Pakistani ofcouse but want to live as tribals. When the army ask the civilian government to settle the areas, why don't they do it despite the will of the people?
Why did the pm was unable to make a single mention of kul bhushan yadev.
It would atleast give our narrative.
Why did we have poor forign office?
There are some rules regarding Afghanistan and India which army has reservations but does that give you right to be bad in forign office.
Did army stop you from doing police reforms?
Did army stop you from doing education reforms?
Did army stop you from giving right to local bodies?
It is simple as that if you are clean and can perform even at 50 percent army would be pushed back.
The only way to. Push army back is your performance.
Did army told you to destroy pia.
Did army say that do not privitize institutions that are burden.
It has become a passion for our media and politicans of ink to our own history.
Even if there is someone behind the scenes. If nawaz sheriff has his money trail, no one can touch him.
Even he say that lawyers are too expensive and justice is not available.
Don't you see how common people live. These people who work in our house for 5000 rupees. What would they have done.
Doesn't these politicians feel shame when they go for medical visas to UK.
They have home abroad in every country. They rome there freely.
You know our police. People are afraid from them. They are arrogant and thugs.
Why not they improve police.
Why not they bring transparency.

Lastly is there any end?
I mean a dictator come and go.
Then in us or other countries politicians come, take their tenure and go.
What would be the the limit of our country.
A person with his personal desire to be pm, continue to be pm again and again.
And then his childern , even if they are not capable.
Why have they kept the masses uneducated?
This tussle is really old.
When you are clean, no one can touch you.
When you perform no one can touch you.
When you are inefficient and in capable and corrupt you see plots every where.
That is why I think imran Khan can be a very powerful pm and can take big decisions which our country needs.
We need a decision to merge fata and to bring fata, Baluchistan and gb in development at par with other provinces.
Imran Khan knows too well the on ground situation which our politicans dont.
If establishment according to you blackmail civilian governments, then he cannot be blackmail. Say whatever you may, he is not corrupt.
He don't have any heir.
Plus he is very focused. He would be able to deal army well and if he dilevers can push army back. He even has the ability to take key decisions on our relationship with afghanistan and India.
This last part about imran Khan is my opinion.
Moral of the story is:
Civilian supremacy can only be achieved by performing have a clean track(which majority of politicians don't)
Only that politician has the right to punish Musharraf who has not done an NRO with him...

 

[mingle]

Hello summer child
Look if you have read my above post you would have replied differently.
I hate pmln and ppp with same passion as you. But really dude groubd reailty is very very different.
You are very few from the educated class who live in city, keep well informed and can think.
Where the masses don't. The false narrative of nawaz sheriff still sells.
Khatam e nabowat law change has no effect.
I don't want to get disappointed. Same as all. Over pti supporters are. Even in Lahore everyone say pti should win but they won't.
These feaudral thinking uneducated people don't think like us, they are poles as apart , they wanted to be ruled by them

Today I have lost almost all hope of pti coming into power . It is pretty clear pmln would win, amend the law and make nawaz pm again. Then celebrate their fake democracy. After that Maryam (she has such negative wibe and zero qualification) would rule us.
We would be like their mazarah or merasi, even in this new world living in slums which our cities are. And sad part is we don't even need change or demand service or demand no corruption...
This is about to happen. So I am just don't getting my hopes high.
Would go and vote which would probably never count.

Winter child gonna be a long long winter.
How many by elections N won against Q. State machinery makes the difference.
U better keep hope with Na ahil sharif and his crook daughter.
Son I am from Punjab I know how all by elections conduct. I know loosing one province govt now pressure coming at home front Punjab Govt every thing my winter child see is conspiracy. Son it's time to pay back Sharif clan will pay.
Ppl in Punjab always vote ruling party in by election and all DPO and DCO run the election campaign.they used when Q was in power PPP ruled in public jab and now sharifs. Its unfortunate but its reality only GE there is chance of change I hope this time Bajwa will ensure no rigging and state involvement for one party.
I told change is coming its gonna be a very long winter for sharif family. They bark on IK there is reason and reason is they gonna loose GE.

 

[Imad.Khan]

Its all game of number in democrazy so if majority want to be ruled by shareef or badmash then minority cannot do anything but to live with decision of majority no matter how much they moan, cry would change nothing unless you replace this system with something else

Whats an alternate to democracy? Dictatorship is not the answer.

 

[mingle]

Whats an alternate to democracy? Dictatorship is not the answer.

A better democracy with functioning institutions and merit.

 

[Imad.Khan]

A better democracy with functioning institutions and merit.

And how would happen? No one will hand us a truely functioning democracy.

 

[mingle]

And how would happen? No one will hand us a truely functioning democracy.

Yes it will happen this filth of Gen Zia is ending this Yrs IA. We will see new era in Pak.