Muji.Iqbal
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Stupid for Yemen to go to war with Israel, when Israel is supported by USA. lol.
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Stupid for Yemen to go to war with Israel, when Israel is supported by USA. lol.
Houthis already defended against US supported/equipped Saudi onslaughts...Stupid for Yemen to go to war with Israel, when Israel is supported by USA. lol.
War in Yemen led to a significant humanitarian crisis in Yemen and UN put pressure on the belligerents to ceasefire. Houthi were able to hold ground because they facing inexperienced troops and mercenaries on the ground. US and Pakistan did not provide troops for this campaign.Houthis already defended against US supported/equipped Saudi onslaughts...
UN did nothing for Yemen. MBS' lack of progress on the battlefield combined with weariness of war and desire to focus on domestic tourism and economic development without constant missile and drone attacks into Riyadh are the reasons why Saudi decided to seek peace.United Nations saved Yemen.
Forcing Israeli Air Force to constantly be alert in the south to intercept UAVs and cruise missiles requires considerable resources, resources that will be diverted from Gaza. That alone is an achievement, as well as bleeding Israel's inventory of Arrow-2 ABM interceptors, making them more vulnerable to potential ballistic missile attacks from Hezbollah or Iran.Houthi strikes are not getting through and will achieve nothing.
UN did nothing for Yemen. MBS' lack of progress on the battlefield combined with weariness of war and desire to focus on domestic tourism and economic development without constant missile and drone attacks into Riyadh are the reasons why Saudi decided to seek peace.
Forcing Israeli Air Force to constantly be alert in the south to intercept UAVs and cruise missiles requires considerable resources, resources that will be diverted from Gaza. That alone is an achievement, as well as bleeding Israel's inventory of Arrow-2 ABM interceptors, making them more vulnerable to potential ballistic missile attacks from Hezbollah or Iran.
Yet they captured it anyway. UAE only withdrew because they wanted to leave the war and stop cruise missile strikes inside UAEUN seeks urgent ceasefire to stop UAE assault on Yemeni port
Saudi-led coalition says capturing Hodeidah will close off arms shipments to Houthiswww.theguardian.com
United Nations put pressure on UAE to give up in Yemen. UAE had brought 90,000 mercenaries to this fight and this force had taken over a chunk of Yemeni territory.
US and Pakistan are fair away, who mentioned them? Iran and Lebanon also did not provide troops.Amid Relative Calm in Yemen, Warring Parties Must Halt Military Provocations, Achieve Key Breakthrough to End War, Special Envoy Tells Security Council | Meetings Coverage and Press Releases
The parties to the conflict in Yemen must immediately stop military provocations and agree to a sustainable nationwide ceasefire, address economic priorities and restart an intra-Yemeni political process under United Nations auspices, the Organization’s senior official for that country told the...press.un.org
US and Pakistan did not provide troops for this fight either. People tend to forget these realities.
This is speculation that cannot be proven. A coalition of 10 Arab countries heavily supported by the USA is not a "proper" coalition?Houthi would not have stood a chance against a proper coalition.
By definition, it kind of does, but I agree they remain able to counter those threats. The question is simply at what cost.War in Gaza does not affect the capacity of IDF to respond to airborne threats like ballistic missiles, cruise missiles, and drones coming from other directions.
UAE withdrew due to British pressure. You need to check the links that I have provided in previous post.Yet they captured it anyway. UAE only withdrew because they wanted to leave the war and stop cruise missile strikes inside UAE
US and Pakistan are fair away, who mentioned them? Iran and Lebanon also did not provide troops.
This is speculation that cannot be proven. A coalition of 10 Arab countries heavily supported by the USA is not a "proper" coalition?
By definition, it kind of does, but I agree they remain able to counter those threats. The question is simply at what cost.
Fair enough.UAE withdrew due to British pressure. You need to check the links that I have provided in previous post.
Before 2011, Abu Dhabi was unused to having its actions scrutinized with any regularity in Washington or London. But its involvement in Yemen, along with Libya, has changed that, and not everyone within the UAE system was ready for the shift.
You are speculating on how a mythical 'proper' coalition might have performed in Yemen. 10 Arab armies (with significant assistance from the US military) against the poorest country in the region should be a proper enough coalition.What speculation? A force composed of inexperienced troops and mercenaries isn't a coalition in true sense.
Of course, But they are also not impenetrable or of infinite number. They can be depleted, and expensive ABM missiles being depleted is no joke.IDF defenses are multi-layered and built to respond to threats from different directions.
Therefore, the interception of Yemeni missiles is not because these arabic governments are puppets of the Jews and AmericaHonestly, it is useless. First the distance will reduce the accuracy of the missiles/drones. Second, no country will accept that drones and missile entered their airspace and can cause collateral damage because technical errors etc... So logically, countries like Egypt, KSA, Jordan will intercept the missiles so it can't lands in their territories (look at what happened to Taba and Nuweiba) Those cities in Egypt landed in Egypt coming the south of the Red Sea.
It will also USA to do the attacksIn this case Sauds will not allow Israelis to use their airspace for refuelling and conducting air attacks on Yemen.
Yemenis are armed with Iranian anti ship cruise missiles, so they have the required minimum deterrence.
Israelis have to accept ceasefire or else they will be bombed from all sides.
Appreciated.Fair enough.
You are speculating on how a mythical 'proper' coalition might have performed in Yemen. 10 Arab armies (with significant assistance from the US military) against the poorest country in the region should be a proper enough coalition.
I concede that a US/NATO-led military coalition on the ground would have performed much better than the Saudi-led coalition.
Of course, But they are also not impenetrable or of infinite number. They can be depleted, and expensive ABM missiles being depleted is no joke.
UAE did send forces to Yemen, 52 Emirati soldiers (as well as 10 Saudi soldiers and 5 Bahraini soldiers) were killed in a Houthi ballistic missile attack against a Saudi-led coalition base inside Marib in Yemen in 2015, indicating significant presence of soldiers from those countries. I will also add it is my understanding that UAE soldiers performed quite well in Yemen, and were the most successful in combating Houthi fighters.Appreciated.
10 Arab armies? Saudi army was lacking in experience and tactics and much of the Saudi-led coalition was composed of mercenaries. Saudi requested US and Pakistan to provide troops to help defeat Houthi but both refused. US agreed to provide Saudi Arabia in passive ways instead. UAE wanted to press ahead with its mercenary force but Europe persuaded it to give up through UN. This war had produced a significant humanitarian crisis in Yemen and Saudi Arabia could not defeat Houthi on its own. Truce was the most likely outcome, therefore.
2003 war was preceded by years of savage economic warfare, softening Iraq, and it is easier to remove a regime from power than to destroy a guerrilla group. Personally I believe a US-led coalition would have been able to remove Houthis from power and reinstate Hadi-led regime (even though he extended his mandate and resigned before he fled, but that's another conversation), but not remove Houthis forever - once the US left, Houthis would likely re-emerge from their mountainous home turf in the north.US-led coalition have handled adversaries that neither Saudi Arabia and nor Iran could handle on their own. US-led forces protected Saudi Arabia and liberated Kuwait from Iraq in 1991 when Iraq had one of the largest and finest armies in the world (Operation Desert Storm). US-led forces toppled Saddam regime and defeated Iraqi insurgency to reshape political landscape of Iraq in another war even though Syria and Iran supported Iraqi insurgency in this case (Operation Iraqi Freedom). US-led forces defeated ISIL across Iraq and Syria in yet another war in the region (Operation Inherent Resolve). This history is important to understand.
US-led forces would have defeated Houthi and reshaped political landscape of Yemen (hypothetically speaking), but US did not accept this call. Houthi could not escape to neighboring countries and expect support from them like Taliban in Afghanistan. US does not even need to send its army for this job, US Marines will be sufficient in view of Yemeni geography.
Indeed. But having to use ABM systems against targets in Yemen and (possibly) Lebanon diverts ABM resources from being able to confront MRBMs from Iran. I don't believe Iran will enter the war or attack Israel, but it's still a useful development from Iran's POV (not least because it can gather data about how Israeli ABM systems respond to Houthi variants of Iran's missiles).The above notwithstanding:
Houthi have no choice but to use their longest range weapons to attack Israel. It comes down to Houthi inventory as well as Israeli interceptor inventory in this exchange. Israel uses Iron Dome to intercept Hamas and Hezbollah rockets but not other systems so Israel might have the capacity to intercept attacks from distant threats like Yemen and Iran. Let's see.