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Yemen is thousand times Worst then both Somalia & Afghanistan for Foreign Armies

Pakistan only Secure Saudi Borders but not send Army (Ground forces) in Yemen

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  • Donot Care about SA, Yemen or Pakistan as they are Arab & Muslim Countries


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Yemen and Saudi are all and the same. "Qahtan" (Pure Arabs) came from Yemen, "Adnan" (Arabized Arabs: Ishmael descendants) Immigrated to the Peninsula from Palestine/Israel and Assimilated with the original Arabs and learned their language.

Try launching a ground offensive without begging other countries like Pakistan to do the dirty job, then come here and talk about the support you may have. If what you said was the truth, you wouldn't be hesitating too much. You simply can't launch a ground offensive on your own because Yemen will be your slaughter house. If anything, 2009 should be a good lesson for you.
 
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There was no ground operation in 2009, and not yet in 2015. unlike you, our military is of the 21th century and actually uses proper strategy for modern warfare.

Saudi is leading this coalition ;)

Btw, how's your operations in Iraq, Syria going? pfft

Also, you have no shame begging for a US airstrike yet at the same time calling for their death and destruction ;)

If I were you I would disable my account after seeing this:

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Try launching a ground offensive without begging other countries like Pakistan to do the dirty job, then come here and talk about the support you may have. If what you said was the truth, you wouldn't be hesitating too much. You simply can't launch a ground offensive on your own because Yemen will be your slaughter house. If anything, 2009 should be a good lesson for you.
Also Islam is an Arab religion, it's our culture not just faith. So even now you are still followers of our culture, can't blame you though, since we erased the Persian empire and its weak culture and philosophy from the face of the Earth :-)

Where's your pride as Persians? Arabs don't like you, yet you still call upon Ali, Hussein etc All Arabs, with Arabic names. I guess now you know who's the real master and who's the impressionable follower :smitten: Arab Hegemony too strong.
 
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Also Islam is an Arab religion, it's our culture not just faith. So even now you are still followers of our culture, can't blame you though, since we erased the Persian empire and its weak culture and philosophy from the face of the Earth :-)

Where's your pride as Persians? Arabs don't like you, yet you still call upon Ali, Hussein etc All Arabs, with Arabic names. I guess now you know who's the real master and who's the impressionable follower :smitten: Arab Hegemony too strong.

Also this is an example of the conflict that happens when you try to spread a civilized faith and culture to uncivilized people, they mutilate it like they do to their bodies:

Personally, I am not quite sure what you're trying to suggest here. First of all, Islam is not an 'Arab' religion; it is a universal religion. At this very moment, you're trying to suggest Arab superiority over other Muslims which is a contradiction of the Prophet Muhammad [PBUH] last sermon. Therefore, I believe you should put a halt to whatever nonsense you're blabbering out.

Moving on, you speak of the Persian Empire? Well, to be honest; I don't personally see any attachment that Shi'ite Muslims may possess with the Zoroastrian Sassanid Empire so I don't even see what you're trying to suggest. In any case, the Arabs were nothing else but toys for the Byzantine and Sassanid Empires for hundreds of years. These 'toys' were paid by both sides, to fight as mercenaries. So where is your Arab pride?

Moving on, you talk of Arab names? Hazrat Salman Farsi [RA] was a Persian and what is the name of your current leader? Salman bin Abdulaziz al Saud.
 
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Personally, I am not quite sure what you're trying to suggest here. First of all, Islam is not an 'Arab' religion; it is a universal religion. At this very moment, you're trying to suggest Arab superiority over other Muslims which is a contradiction of the Prophet Muhammad [PBUH] last sermon. Therefore, I believe you should put a halt to whatever nonsense you're blabbering out.

Moving on, you speak of the Persian Empire? Well, to be honest; I don't personally see any attachment that Shi'ite Muslims may possess with the Zoroastrian Sassanid Empire so I don't even see what you're trying to suggest. In any case, the Arabs were nothing else but toys for the Byzantine and Sassanid Empires for hundreds of years. These 'toys' were paid by both sides, to fight as mercenaries. So where is your Arab pride?

Moving on, you talk of Arab names? Hazrat Salman Farsi [RA] was a Persian and what is the name of your current leader? Salman bin Abdulaziz al Saud.

I'm not a racist or a nationalist, but Iranian Shiites' delusions of grandeur needs to be eliminated, they need to be humbled, most of their rhetoric is filled with Arab hate, yet they forget that the people who spread this religion are the Arabs, it's an honorary mission bestowed upon us by God, it doesn't mean we're better than anyone else, only means that you should spare us your racism and hatred if you're not going to at least be grateful. Only an honorable man recognizes an honorable deed.
 
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"The intervention was triggered by Houthi overreach. Rather than settling for a political deal in the capital, they are trying to establish dominance at gunpoint and are engaged in a brutal campaign to control Aden that is destroying the city and creating a humanitarian disaster."

This is what has triggered the Saudi intervention and makes the situation unbearable for the Yemeni population.
Peace will be easy if the Houthi militia decides to give back the state weapons to the state and sit around a negotiation table with the rest of the Yemenis. So logically it all depend on the Houthi for war or peace in Yemen and the area.If they go too far than they might alienate the majority of Yemeni populace that can be heavily armed by the Saudis and thus trigger a civil war where they will lose everything and state decisions might then be taken without them. Because they seem to want to talk with their weapons rather than with words, But in reality, their _could have been_ main threatening weapons, i.e; air force and missiles were taken out by the coalition raids, which lives them with only two choices, either commit suicide while attempting to attack Saudi Arabia or give up the state weapons in their possession, sit around a table and find a wining solution to all Yemenis.

The Prophet PBUH is an Arabized Arab and a descendant of Ishmael.


The majority of Afro-Arabians are descendants of hajjis who settled after performing the Hajj (The pilgrimage was really a long and difficult trip back then)

What were these Arabs before they were Arabized? Their was only one Arabic language subsequent to Aramaic!
What did the Adnans speak if the Haftans were speaking Arabic?

For the Afro-Arabians, there were nearby kingdoms called Habasha wa Somal and intermixing between them and the Arabs was common at those times too, mostly through slavery before Islam.
 
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The official stance of the coalition is "operation decisive storm will end when the Houthis gave up their weapons and returned to the table."

This "minority taking control of majority at gun point" trend in the Arab world got to end, Hezbollah and Houthis need a wake up call that nobody likes them except their minority Shiites, and if KSA chooses to go for Hezbollah next, I guarantee you it will garner more support due to Hezbollah's mask falling off during the Syrian revolution (they lost all Sunni support that they gained in the 2006 Israeli Attack at that point). That was the silver lining of the Syrian Revolution.

"The intervention was triggered by Houthi overreach. Rather than settling for a political deal in the capital, they are trying to establish dominance at gunpoint and are engaged in a brutal campaign to control Aden that is destroying the city and creating a humanitarian disaster."

This is what has triggered the Saudi intervention and makes the situation unbearable for the Yemeni population.
Peace will be easy if the Houthi militia decides to give back the state weapons to the state and sit around a negotiation table with the rest of the Yemenis. So logically it all depend on the Houthi for war or peace in Yemen and the area.If they go too far than they might alienate the majority of Yemeni populace that can be heavily armed by the Saudis and thus trigger a civil war where they will lose everything and state decisions might then be taken without them. Because they seem to want to talk with their weapons rather than with words, But in reality, their _could have been_ main threatening weapons, i.e; air force and missiles were taken out by the coalition raids, which lives them with only two choices, either commit suicide while attempting to attack Saudi Arabia or give up the state weapons in their possession, sit around a table and find a wining solution to all Yemenis.



What were these Arabs before they were Arabized? Their was only one Arabic language subsequent to Aramaic!
What did the Adnans speak if the Haftans were speaking Arabic?

For the Afro-Arabians, there were nearby kingdoms called Habasha wa Somal and intermixing between them and the Arabs was common at those times too, mostly through slavery before Islam.

Arabized Arabs are the descendants of Abraham's son Ishmael, The Jewish people are the descendants of Abraham's son Isaac > Jacob, They were located in the holy land (Jerusalem). They spoke Aramaic most likely. Ishmael and his descendants later spoke Arabic.
 
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It's not dangerous when you only get to worry about 1~2% of the population :)

KSA isn't USA anyway so mostly not considered a foreigner, that's our culture.

USA may have THE power but KSA has both power AND public support in any Muslim country, except Iran (not the Sunnis though), so we can enter a country and not get resisted as long as we don't do too much damage.

Iran on the other hand ;) still get resisted by their most loyal puppet Iraq, when even some Shiia mullahs and people refuse direct Iranian interference with their decision making.
if one or two percent of population took arm and start to fight it'll be a hell hole for anybody who attack , look at afghanistan and see what happened to invaders there , USSR ,USA and Great Britain had to withdraw from there . I always considered Yemen as such place

The Prophet PBUH is an Arabized Arab and a descendant of Ishmael.


The majority of Afro-Arabians are descendants of hajjis who settled after performing the Hajj (The pilgrimage was really a long and difficult trip back then)
the prophet Peace be upon him is not an Arabized Arab , he is as Arab as it can get .Ismael married some one from the region and his children also married people from the region . he had on root in Canaan and 100 root in penninsula

Also Islam is an Arab religion, it's our culture not just faith. So even now you are still followers of our culture, can't blame you though, since we erased the Persian empire and its weak culture and philosophy from the face of the Earth :-)

Where's your pride as Persians? Arabs don't like you, yet you still call upon Ali, Hussein etc All Arabs, with Arabic names. I guess now you know who's the real master and who's the impressionable follower :smitten: Arab Hegemony too strong.

Also this is an example of the conflict that happens when you try to spread a civilized faith and culture to uncivilized people, they mutilate it like they do to their bodies:
its show how weak your theology is , Islam is not an Arab religious it's a religious for all of humanity, not only Arabs and it's the religion of the holy prophet Adam .Suggest you to go and study a little Qur'an and Hadith .

I'm not a racist or a nationalist, but Iranian Shiites' delusions of grandeur needs to be eliminated, they need to be humbled, most of their rhetoric is filled with Arab hate, yet they forget that the people who spread this religion are the Arabs, it's an honorary mission bestowed upon us by God, it doesn't mean we're better than anyone else, only means that you should spare us your racism and hatred if you're not going to at least be grateful. Only an honorable man recognizes an honorable deed.
the only thing I saw was that you are showing how little you knew about Islam by your posts .
 
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To be honest, houthis are no angels either. During the Arab spring, the Yemenis rose up against President Saleh, and he was removed from power.

Now who are Houthis siding with? SALEH!
 
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Pakistanis have far more unregistered guns (so called illegal)
 
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There was no ground operation in 2009, and not yet in 2015. unlike you, our military is of the 21th century and actually uses proper strategy for modern warfare.

Saudi is leading this coalition ;)

Btw, how's your operations in Iraq, Syria going? pfft

Also, you have no shame begging for a US airstrike yet at the same time calling for their death and destruction ;)

If I were you I would disable my account after seeing this:

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Also Islam is an Arab religion, it's our culture not just faith. So even now you are still followers of our culture, can't blame you though, since we erased the Persian empire and its weak culture and philosophy from the face of the Earth :-)

Where's your pride as Persians? Arabs don't like you, yet you still call upon Ali, Hussein etc All Arabs, with Arabic names. I guess now you know who's the real master and who's the impressionable follower :smitten: Arab Hegemony too strong.

Also this is an example of the conflict that happens when you try to spread a civilized faith and culture to uncivilized people, they mutilate it like they do to their bodies:

I hope your statements are applicable to not only Persians but all other non Arabic Muslims too like Indian and Pakistani Muslims :woot::woot:


"Also Islam is an Arab religion, it's our culture not just faith."

I see , its not a global religion its Arabic faith only. Hope my Pakistani friends will agree with this amazing fact that Islam is a faith of a group of people lived 1400 years back ( who were not that advanced like many other civilisations existed that time.)

@Akhilos

"So even now you are still followers of our culture, can't blame you though, since we erased the Persian empire and its weak culture and philosophy from the face of the Earth :-)"
--So Pakistanis and Indian Muslims are followers of Arabic cultures only and not following the messages spread by God's messenger who eventually took his birth as Arab----Great to know Sir

"Where's your pride as Persians? Arabs don't like you, yet you still call upon Ali, Hussein etc All Arabs, with Arabic names. I guess now you know who's the real master and who's the impressionable follower :smitten: Arab Hegemony too strong."

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Not sure Whether our Indian/Pakistani Muslim brothers will agree to it that by adopting these names they are actually upholding Arabic Hehemony only. I am just curious to know the view points of our Indian and Pakistani Muslim friends on this
 
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if one or two percent of population took arm and start to fight it'll be a hell hole for anybody who attack , look at afghanistan and see what happened to invaders there , USSR ,USA and Great Britain had to withdraw from there . I always considered Yemen as such place


the prophet Peace be upon him is not an Arabized Arab , he is as Arab as it can get .Ismael married some one from the region and his children also married people from the region . he had on root in Canaan and 100 root in penninsula


its show how weak your theology is , Islam is not an Arab religious it's a religious for all of humanity, not only Arabs and it's the religion of the holy prophet Adam .Suggest you to go and study a little Qur'an and Hadith .


the only thing I saw was that you are showing how little you knew about Islam by your posts .

Oh please, you dont want to get into a theological debate with a Sunni with your occultation and Twelve Imams being appointed by God and Imams being created before creation and Imam Ali comes to every dying soul and decide who go to hell or heaven.

You cant teach me about Islam.

And yes Islam is a religion but also a culture, theres Islamic architecture, Islamic literature, Islamic music, etc etc

Thats our culture, thats our history.

For your own good dont open your can of warms :)
 
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Oh please, you dont want to get into a theological debate with a Sunni with your occultation and Twelve Imams being appointed by God and Imams being created before creation and Imam Ali comes to every dying soul and decide who go to hell or heaven.

You cant teach me about Islam.

And yes Islam is a religion but also a culture, theres Islamic architecture, Islamic literature, Islamic music, etc etc

Thats our culture, thats our history.

For your own good dont open your can of warms :)
by Islamic Architecture , you mean Iranian Architecture , which is the continuation of Sassanian Architecture only imbued with religious subjects? and by the way what Islamic literature ? how much of it come from peninsula and how much come from outside of it and please let not talk about music and etc etc etc ...

And I don't think in my post I talked about disagreement between Sunni or Shia ,All I talked was the basic which is common between two group .
 
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by Islamic Architecture , you mean Iranian Architecture , which is the continuation of Sassanian Architecture only imbued with religious subjects? and by the way what Islamic literature ? how much of it come from peninsula and how much come from outside of it and please let not talk about music and etc etc etc ...

And I don't think in my post I talked about disagreement between Sunni or Shia ,All I talked was the basic which is common between two group .

The ancient city of Petra (in present-day Jordan) is famous for being ENTIRELY carved into the red sandstone cliffs and valleys of Jordan’s expansive desert. The city was even named one of the seven wonders of the world in a recent worldwide poll (which I completely agree with having been there last summer), but it is slowly falling apart from environmental degradation. In ancient times the rock buildings were kept safe from erosion by an intricate irrigation system that kept water away from the walls and facades. But now that this irrigation system is no longer functional the buildings are slowly succumbing to the tides of time and erosion, particularly the world famous treasury building

petra-031.jpg


May | 2012 | The Middle East Studies Program

As an example of pre-Islamic Arab civilization Architecture. There are many others in the Arabian peninsula like...

In the northwestern corner of Arabia lies an ancient city, thought to have been inhabited between 2000 B.C. and 200 A.D. One of the largest settlements of the Nabataean civilisation, it is known today as Al-Hijr or Mada’in Saleh. Like its more famous sister city Petra (which has appeared numerous times in movies), Hegra boasts many rock-cut monumental tombs—111 to be exact, of which 94 are decorated. The city also has early water wells, and the whole site is a worthy testament to the Nabataeans’ architectural abilities and hydraulic expertise.

One other interesting legacy is that the Nabataeans developed the North Arabic script from which today’s modern Arabic script is descended.


hegra.jpg

Hegra | Taylor Empire Airways



And in Persia around the same time...

Naghshe Rostam

Naghshe_Rostam_ZPan.jpg




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Houthi militia do not have the same support of the majority like Taliban in Afghanistan or Hizbollah in Lebanon .
 
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Azzo, when Iranians use names like Hassan or Mohammad or Fatema or etc, we aren't using "Arab" names. We are using ISLAMIC names. What about when we use the names of angels such as Jibreel. Is this also Arab names?

Please don't try to make Islam an Arabic religion. Islam isn't like Judaism. Arabs aren't "The Chosen People". Salman Farsi & Bilal were not Arabs, do you think Prophet Mohammad treated them any different and said to get away from him because the closest to him should only be Arabs because Islam was an Arab religion?

Also, remember that Islam is also not Arabic culture. Islam came to change the culture of the people, not to continue the same culture.

Please don't bring Islam down to your petty level.
 
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The ancient city of Petra (in present-day Jordan) is famous for being ENTIRELY carved into the red sandstone cliffs and valleys of Jordan’s expansive desert. The city was even named one of the seven wonders of the world in a recent worldwide poll (which I completely agree with having been there last summer), but it is slowly falling apart from environmental degradation. In ancient times the rock buildings were kept safe from erosion by an intricate irrigation system that kept water away from the walls and facades. But now that this irrigation system is no longer functional the buildings are slowly succumbing to the tides of time and erosion, particularly the world famous treasury building

petra-031.jpg


May | 2012 | The Middle East Studies Program

As an example of pre-Islamic Arab civilization Architecture. There are many others in the Arabian peninsula like...

In the northwestern corner of Arabia lies an ancient city, thought to have been inhabited between 2000 B.C. and 200 A.D. One of the largest settlements of the Nabataean civilisation, it is known today as Al-Hijr or Mada’in Saleh. Like its more famous sister city Petra (which has appeared numerous times in movies), Hegra boasts many rock-cut monumental tombs—111 to be exact, of which 94 are decorated. The city also has early water wells, and the whole site is a worthy testament to the Nabataeans’ architectural abilities and hydraulic expertise.

One other interesting legacy is that the Nabataeans developed the North Arabic script from which today’s modern Arabic script is descended.


hegra.jpg

Hegra | Taylor Empire Airways



And in Persia around the same time...

Naghshe Rostam

Naghshe_Rostam_ZPan.jpg




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Houthi militia do not have the same support of the majority like Taliban in Afghanistan or Hizbollah in Lebanon .
can't see any influence of petra in Islamic architecture but can clearly see influence of Sassanian Architecture in it.

by the way hope you are aware that Naghshe-Rostam is not a living place it's a cemetery all the buildings around it is destroyed only what curved in the mountain is remained .

and Taliban didn't had the majority support in Afghanistan , they had better weapon due to Pakistan and USA support but the northern alliance had also a lot of support there .and if houtis did not had the support then nobody felt the necessity to bomb Yemen .
 
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