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Yaum-e-Shuhada 2014 (Rememberance Day of Martyrs)

So what happened to the first wave of attacks, and how many casualties were caused by the insurgents? All noble shaheeds, those brave SSGs, but they went into battle without the proper planning.
VCheng,

There was support available through the combat aviation elements. You will lose people going up against heavily defended areas which are naturally protected due to the terrain (mountains on 3 sides of the valley make it difficult to even strike positions with pin point accuracy if they are on the slopes etc.). You have to put people on the ground to take over the positions. Also most of the casualties occurred when deploying the assaulting troops in slow moving helis. This was not an easy operation by any means. Everybody bleeds the same in such conditions. The Navy SEALs across the border have run into similar situations suffering heavy casualties. Are we to assume that they lacked planning or proper air support? Planning can always be better, but it should not be assumed that only the planning led to casualties. Sometimes the objective is very difficult to achieve without taking on casualties.

SSG usually takes the lead in such operations. First to go in and as a result the first ones to get exposed to enemy defences.
 
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Not sure if this has been posted here or not, by far the most moving song of late. May Allah bless all those who have lost their near and dear ones. Specially the little ones who have been deprived of their loving fathers in the service of this country. Listen to it a couple of times to understand the lyrics.

 
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After 10 years of giving blind sacrifice, bravery has already crossed the line, and now it seems more like stupidity. This includes, public too.

Sorry if it sound rude but that's the reality.

No point in dying or going for dangerous operation, when army have enemies in shape of political parties, judiciary and media.

Going to risk your life in war, without getting rid of obvious supporter of your enimies, is height of stupidity.

Because some service is selfless. It is not bounded by what others do in return. It is done without regard for reward, recognition or acknowledgement simply because it has to be done. This is truly the definition of responding to a higher calling.

This is why these boys and girls and the institutions they represent have to be defended from undeserved and misplaced criticism.
 
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VCheng,

There was support available through the combat aviation elements. You will lose people going up against heavily defended areas which are naturally protected due to the terrain (mountains on 3 sides of the valley make it difficult to even strike positions with pin point accuracy if they are on the slopes etc.). You have to put people on the ground to take over the positions. Also most of the casualties occurred when deploying the assaulting troops in slow moving helis. This was not an easy operation by any means. Everybody bleeds the same in such conditions. The Navy SEALs across the border have run into similar situations suffering heavy casualties. Are we to assume that they lacked planning or proper air support? Planning can always be better, but it should not be assumed that only the planning led to casualties. Sometimes the objective is very difficult to achieve without taking on casualties.

SSG usually takes the lead in such operations. First to go in and as a result the first ones to get exposed to enemy defences.

My understanding is that the initial wave had inadequate air support, which was called in several hours later. I do accept that it was a difficult mission indeed, as you described it.
 

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