Xinjiang Province: News & Discussions

[haidian]

Many developed nations have more deaths because they are developed. China is still a developing country even today. You are supposed to be breeding like rabbits today and then have lower birth rate after you are developed. The CCP, in their arrogance, screwed up.

You know nothing about China, family plan policy was introduced in the late 70's and early 80's , it was only implemented in the cities but not rural regions, back then most Chinese people lived in rural area.

When the policy was first introduced, China and India were largely at the same development level, now 30 years passed, China's economy is 5 times of India, everyone can clearly see which government screwed up their country and theirr people.

 

[S. Martin]

Silly propaganda created by the Pakistanis.

Terrorists had taken control of the temple and had a lot of hostages. The one who ran the rescue op was a Sikh himself.

Is that what the NCP told you?

 

[randomradio]

Is that what the NCP told you?

No, it's what the Supreme Court discovered.

The terrorists even had 2 Chinese supplied rocket launchers.

You know nothing about China, family plan policy was introduced in the late 70's and early 80's , it was only implemented in the cities but not rural regions, back then most Chinese people lived in rural area.

When the policy was first introduced, China and India were largely at the same development level, now 30 years passed, China's economy is 5 times of India, everyone can clearly see which government screwed up their country and theirr people.

The one child policy was only a bit more lax in the rural areas.

And no, India's development level was considerably worse since we had to shake off 200 years of colonialism and zero GDP growth for all that time.

 

[haidian]

And no, India's development level was considerably worse since we had to shake off 200 years of colonialism and zero GDP growth for all that time.

IndiaGross domestic product (1980)
India GDP 189.6 billion USD
1980

ChinaGross domestic product (1980)
191.2 billion USD
1980

 

[randomradio]

IndiaGross domestic product (1980)
India GDP 189.6 billion USD
1980

ChinaGross domestic product (1980)
191.2 billion USD
1980

That had nothing to do with quality of life. India's currency was very strong at the time, but China's GDP was much bigger.

 

[haidian]

That had nothing to do with quality of life. India's currency was very strong at the time, but China's GDP was much bigger.

You can deny whatever facts that everyone can see, still, compare to what the Chinese government achieved, India is just a failed state. You jumped into this thread to trash talk China but the fact is China is still way better than you India in every aspect of life. Our government manages our country very well, India is just jealous of us, that's it.

in less than 3 decades, the Chinese government led China to become the world No.1 in almost every industry and trade, what No.1s did you Indian government get you besides that so called " the world biggest democracy". A hilarious title.

 

[randomradio]

You can deny whatever facts that everyone can see, still, compare to what the Chinese government achieved, India is just a failed state. You jumped into this thread to trash talk China but the fact is China is still way better than you India in every aspect of life. Our government manages our country very well, India is just jealous of us, that's it.

India is not jealous of China. There is nothing special about China beyond some infrastructure, which is easy to build as the economy grows. But in the next 10 years, India will have the same infrastructure China has. Plus, we will have democracy, rule of law and freedom. All traits that the average Chinese will never have as long as the CCP exists.

in less than 3 decades, the Chinese government led China to become the world No.1 in almost every industry and trade,

No, you did it in 7 years, not 3 decades. Meaning, from 2007 to 2014, when you climbed from $3T to $11T GDP. This is when you progressed from a lower middle income country to an upper middle income country, this is the time when the middle class is created. Our 7 years is just beginning, probably next year.

When China was a $2-$3T economy, China had 10 billionaires. At the same level, India has 119 billionaires. So you know what's coming.

what No.1s did you Indian government get you besides that so called " the world biggest democracy". A hilarious title.

We have pharmaceutical and tech exports, which are superior to China's.

 

[haidian]

India is not jealous of China. There is nothing special about China beyond some infrastructure, which is easy to build as the economy grows. But in the next 10 years, India will have the same infrastructure China has. Plus, we will have democracy, rule of law and freedom. All traits that the average Chinese will never have as long as the CCP exists.
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But China is the only country in the world did it, that's kind of special,isn't it. India can do this and can do that, that's you always say, we don't say anything before we make that happen and become reality, that's our major difference. And you have demoracy and rule of law? You are the last country to talk about rule of law, don't try to be so funny.

When China was a $2-$3T economy, China had 10 billionaires. At the same level, India has 119 billionaires. So you know what's coming.

We have pharmaceutical and tech exports, which are superior to China's.

Since when a country's wealth being controlled by a few billionares is a good thing? We are working on equally distribute the wealth, of course we admit that we are far from achieving that goal, rich and poor gap is a big concern in China.

You have pharmaceutical and tech exports superior to China's? Don't lose it, do some reality check please.

 

[Ultima Thule]

But China is the only country in the world did it, that's kind of special,isn't it. India can do this and can do that, that's you always say, we don't say anything before we make that happen and become reality, that's our major difference. And you have demoracy and rule of law? You are the last country to talk about rule of law, don't try to be so funny.

Ignore @randomradio he thinks that India is champion in all fields, and India is a master of democracy and human rights @haidian bro

 

[haidian]

India plans to lessen its drug reliance on China
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com...ug-reliance-on-china/articleshow/60989553.cms

As for high tech exports, I don't know what high tech exports you are talking about, what makes you believe you are superior to China in high tech exports? You seems to be in a blind denial mode.

The following list from World Atlas shows the top 25 countries by high tech exports:

1 China $560,058,333,865.00
2 Germany $193,087,960,652.00
3 United States $147,833,168,925.00
4 Singapore $135,601,531,429.00
5 South Korea $130,460,427,536.00
6 France $112,999,509,750.00
7 Japan $105,075,614,374.00
8 Netherlands $69,039,551,874.00
9 Malaysia $60,371,906,718.00
10 Switzerland $53,350,361,422.00
11 Mexico $45,418,666,690.00
12 Thailand $33,901,233,425.00
13 Italy $29,752,353,792.00
14 Canada $29,136,849,244.00
15 Vietnam $27,819,466,251.00
16 United Kingdom $24,215,736,361.00
17 Ireland $21,914,722,722.00
18 Czech Republic $20,921,357,479.00
19 Philippines $19,644,559,022.00
20 Austria $18,412,394,058.00
21 Sweden $17,024,529,823.00
22 India $16,693,424,357.00
23 Spain $16,346,453,615.00
24 Hungary $14,470,677,145.00
25 Poland $12,052,190,656.00
http://www.industrytap.com/global-high-tech-export-myths-realities/41309

I don't know wether the Indians most popular catchphrase "we have democracy" is the answer for all India's problems or the cause for them.

 

[randomradio]

But China is the only country in the world did it, that's kind of special,isn't it. India can do this and can do that, that's you always say, we don't say anything before we make that happen and become reality, that's our major difference. And you have demoracy and rule of law? You are the last country to talk about rule of law, don't try to be so funny.

All developed countries have gone through the same transition China did. China is merely the most recent example.

Yes, we do have democracy and rule of law. Privacy was recently made a fundamental right in India. I wonder if you even know what fundamental right means.

Since when a country's wealth being controlled by a few billionares is a good thing? We are working on equally distribute the wealth, of course we admit that we are far from achieving that goal, rich and poor gap is a big concern in China.

No, you are not equally distributing wealth. China is one of the most unequal countries in the world. And it's even worse when it comes to personal freedom.

Even though your cities now have first class infrastructure and your lower and middle rung bureaucracies have little corruption, your rich are desperately wanting to flee China.

You seem to be a guy in the middle class with limited need for freedom, that's not the case with the rich. The rich need a lot of freedom, and when they no longer get it, they leave.

Dude, you don't even have property rights. Your courts are a joke. And you have a wonderfully oppressive social credit system. Who are you fooling?

 

[haidian]

All developed countries have gone through the same transition China did. China is merely the most recent example.

Yes, we do have democracy and rule of law. Privacy was recently made a fundamental right in India. I wonder if you even know what fundamental right means.

Rule of law for Dalits? Rampant rape incidents and lynching the minorities? Come on, look at the ground reality just for a second. What I know is China is a much safer country than India and people don't have to worry about their personal safety and can enjoy their hard won prosperous live that most Indians can only dream of, isn't this fundamental?

No, you are not equally distributing wealth.

That's what I said, check again, that's why I said that numbers of billionaire is not a good indicator to show the wealthy level of the general public, China has more billionaires than India, but that's not something we are prould of.

You seem to be a guy in the middle class with limited need for freedom, that's not the case with the rich. The rich need a lot of freedom, and when they no longer get it, they leave.

Dude, you don't even have property rights. Your courts are a joke. And you have a wonderfully oppressive social credit system. Who are you fooling?

You know nothing about the Chinese credit system, go and educate yourself about it first.https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/chin...-highly-popular-for-now.580986/#post-10849497

Even China is not prefect as no one is, but India is much worse than China in every domain, you should better think about getting your own house in order first. You can smear China and deny every Chinese achievement, but the world is not blind as Indians.

 

[randomradio]

Rule of law for Dalits? Rampant rape incidents and lynching the minorities? Come on, look at the ground reality just for a second. What I know is China is a much safer country than India and people don't have to worry about their personal safety and can enjoy their hard won prosperous live that most Indians can only dream of, isn't this fundamental?

Dalits in India are treated much better than the general population by the govt. It's a small minority of people who are sick enough to attack someone else.

India is also considerably safe. Most of the 'attacks' you hear about are primarily disputes related to property and money, and happen mostly in backward places in India. In your country also you will have such attacks. The difference is our media reports it.

That's what I said, check again, that's why I said that numbers of billionaire is not a good indicator to show the wealthy level of the general public, China has more billionaires than India, but that's not something we are prould of.

Is that what the CCP told you?

You need billionaires and people with the potential and motivation to become billionaires to create jobs. That's how a country grows. The more billionaires a country has, the more prosperous is the country. It's the billionaires who actually pull the economic chains of the country.

CCP doesn't like billionaires, so I'm not surprised Chinese drones like you will toe party line, since that's what you were forced to grow up with.

India was the same case, where every Bollywood movie had a rich guy as the bad guy because that's how socialism was. People are growing their brains here only in the last few decades. But I don't expect China's attitude towards billionaires to change simply because the CCP will not allow it.

You know nothing about the Chinese credit system, go and educate yourself about it first.https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/chin...-highly-popular-for-now.580986/#post-10849497

Even China is not prefect as no one is, but India is much worse than China in every domain, you should better think about getting your own house in order first. You can smear China and deny every Chinese achievement, but the world is not blind as Indians.

News flash: India has no social credit system. No sane country does.

 

[haidian]

Dalits in India are treated much better than the general population by the govt. It's a small minority of people who are sick enough to attack someone else.

India is also considerably safe. Most of the 'attacks' you hear about are primarily disputes related to property and money, and happen mostly in backward places in India. In your country also you will have such attacks. The difference is our media reports it.

Don't fool yourself, everyone knows how you treat lower caste population, what is your caste level by the way? India is safe, is that what your media tells you? India is not famous for law and order around the world, rape and chaos are India's name tag. Guess you don't know, use the internet to find it out.

You need billionaires and people with the potential and motivation to become billionaires to create jobs. That's how a country grows. The more billionaires a country has, the more prosperous is the country. It's the billionaires who actually pull the economic chains of the country.

CCP doesn't like billionaires, so I'm not surprised Chinese drones like you will toe party line, since that's what you were forced to grow up with.

India was the same case, where every Bollywood movie had a rich guy as the bad guy because that's how socialism was. People are growing their brains here only in the last few decades. But I don't expect China's attitude towards billionaires to change simply because the CCP will not allow it.


News flash: India has no social credit system. No sane country does.

We don't think having lots of biillinaires is good for a country but that doesn't mean we hate them, China still have the second largest billionaire population in the world, people like Jack Ma are famous both in China and around the world, they are not hated here but too much wealth possessed by a few people is not something to be bragged about as what you did.

India doesn't have many things, that's not a surprise, in North America, if you got bad credit, you'll also have trouble getting loans from a bank. Since we have a system that is supported by the general public, Indians have no right to criticize it cause it is supported by the vast majority of the Chinese population and it is not designed to be used in India.

We don't hate billionaire who work hard to become one, so they flourish in China.

World’s top 10 startups
Of the top 10 startups from across the world, all but one are based in China or the US.
https://www.theceomagazine.com/business/start-ups-entrepreneurs/worlds-top-10-startups/

Asian Countries are Heading Past the US in Gaining Entrepreneurial Edge
China has gained the most ground, attracting nearly a quarter of global venture capital investment in recent years
https://www.entrepreneur.com/article/321310

Billionaires by country rankings
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_the_number_of_billionaires

 

[randomradio]

Don't fool yourself, everyone knows how you treat lower caste population, what is your caste level by the way? India is safe, is that what your media tells you? India is not famous for law and order around the world, rape and chaos are India's name tag. Guess you don't know, use the internet to find it out.

Meh. No point talking about it when you don't know anything about this subject.

We don't think having lots of biillinaires is good for a country but that doesn't mean we hate them, China still have the second largest billionaire population in the world, people like Jack Ma are famous both in China and around the world, they are not hated here but too much wealth possessed by a few people is not something to be bragged about as what you did.

Lol. So you either like billionaires or you don't. Make up your mind, please.

India doesn't have many things, that's not a surprise, in North America, if you got bad credit, you'll also have trouble getting loans from a bank. Since we have a system that is supported by the general public, Indians have no right to criticize it cause it is supported by the vast majority of the Chinese population and it is not designed to be used in India.

A loan credit system is totally different from social credit system. A credit system is only a system that allows a private or public bank to lend to you, it has nothing to do with the govt.

But the Chinese social credit system is designed to suppress the population. You don't have any idea about the implications of this system, which is not surprising.

CCP will now decide what your score is based on how much time you spend on the internet or what kind of websites you visit or what kind of stuff you shop for. Yeah, good luck to you and your children.

India doesn't have many things, that's not a surprise, in North America, if you got bad credit, you'll also have trouble getting loans from a bank. Since we have a system that is supported by the general public, Indians have no right to criticize it cause it is supported by the vast majority of the Chinese population and it is not designed to be used in India.

What a joke!

https://www.news.com.au/technology/...e/news-story/6c821cbf15378ab0d3eeb3ec3dc98abf

Jaywalking, late payments on bills or taxes, buying too much alcohol or speaking out against the government, each cost citizens points.

Other mooted punishable offences include spending too long playing video games, wasting money on frivolous purchases and posting on social media, according to Business Insider.

“This kind of social control is against the tide of the world. The Chinese people’s eyes are blinded and their ears are blocked. They know little about the world and are living in an illusion.” Liu Hu said.

How fun. You can be denied education, loans and even social media access simply because you made a little mistake. Again, good luck.