WSJ : Why China and the U.S. Are Vying for Dominance in Pakistan

[haidian]

Wall Street Journal
Why China and the U.S. Are Vying for Dominance in Pakistan

 

[MMM-E]

maybe the US is trying to block Iran-Pakistan-China gas and oil pipeline route

the US can create new state namely Belochistan and no more connection between Iran and Pakistan

also the US invaded Afghanistan under the mask of fighting terrorism
why ?
because of to block Iran-Afghanistan-China gas and oil pipeline route

 

[fallstuff]

I think the issue is settled for the foreseeable future.

 

[Shankranthi]

Rather than use diplomacy to play off US against china and gain substantially from it, pakistan has let them two giants dictate terms to it.

This is because pakistan has already pigeon holed itself against India and both US and China knows that pakistan needs help to stand up against India.

This gives leverage to pakistan's "friends" and also takes away any leverage pakistan has against its "Friends".


If only pakistan had the wisdom to negotiate friendly relationship with India, it would give it extra leverage against these two giants. But like the proverbial monkey in the Monkey Trap, pakistan just does not know when to let go.


As to the future, I think china will gain more control than the US.

 

[Knight Rider]

the US can create new state namely Balochistan and no more connection between Iran and Pakistan

They can only daydream about such a plan. 17 years in war in Afghanistan and all America got in this war was it teeth knocked out of its mouth. Balochistan is the heart of Pakistan.

 

[Shankranthi]

They can only daydream about such a plan. 17 years in war in Afghanistan and all America got in this war was it teeth knocked out of its mouth. Balochistan is the heart of Pakistan.

What America got is a permanent base right next to pakistan.

A base from which it could raid into pakistan and capture Osama Bin Laden from Abbottabad.

That was one of their primary objectives for going to war.

 

[haidian]

Afghan war brought death, terror and chaos to Pakistan, US aids for that war almost destroyed Pakistan.

 

[Shankranthi]

Afghan war brought death, terror and chaos to Pakistan, US aids for that war almost destroyed Pakistan.

It was not the Afghan war , but pakistan's participation in that war that brought chaos to pakistan.

They have no one to blame but themselves.

They wanted "strategic depth" and this is the price they paid for that "depth".

US Aid is just that, AID. Its how you USE THAT AID that makes all the difference.

 

[Knight Rider]

What America got is a permanent base right next to pakistan.

A base from which it could raid into pakistan and capture Osama Bin Laden from Abbottabad.

That was one of their primary objectives for going to war.

Their Primary objective was to destroy Pakistan just like Syria, Libya and Iraq. Their Objective was to capture Pakistani Nuclear sites and to separate the provinces Balochistan and KPK from Pakistan by creating distress among the local People of Pakistan through Bombing done by their agents in AL-Qaeda. Many American and Western spies have been killed in various operations inside Pakistan. Pakistan have lost 70000 people in this Bloodly war.

Here is a Photo of American Agent dress as Taliban.
https://cdn-blogs.tribune.com.pk/2012/12/15225-tattoo-1355740144-107-640x480.jpg

 

[Shankranthi]

Their Primary objective was to destroy Pakistan just like Syria, Libya and Iraq. Their Objective was to capture Pakistani Nuclear sites and to separate the provinces Balochistan and KPK from Pakistan by creating distress among the local People of Pakistan through Bombing done by their agents in AL-Qaeda. Many American and Western spies have been killed in various operations inside Pakistan. Pakistan have lost 70000 people in this Bloodly war.

Here is a Photo of American Agent dress as Taliban.
https://cdn-blogs.tribune.com.pk/2012/12/15225-tattoo-1355740144-107-640x480.jpg

That is a photo of a Westerner dressed as a local Afghan.

Could very well be one of those radicalised westerners who converted to islam, and moved to afghanistan for Jihad.


Objectively, that photo means nothing.


US was instrumental in pakistan acquiring Nukes. So if they want to take them back, its their prerogative though one can argue that its all a conspiracy theory.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2007/oct/13/usa.pakistan


US on record has gone to war to destroy Al Qaeda. So if Al qaeda is doing bombing in pakistan, its certainly not due to the US. Who are the local pakistanis who are giving support to the Al Qaeda in pakistan ? AFter all they cannot operate in pakistan without local support.

 

[Yaseen1]

u.s was also preparing a large scale attack on Syria including russian troops and s400 in Syria.i think they are in haste of ww3 and destruction of world

 

[Shankranthi]

u.s was also preparing a large scale attack on Syria including russian troops and s400 in Syria.i think they are in haste of ww3 and destruction of world

At what point will you stop worrying about Syria and start worrying about pakistan ?

 

[Yaseen1]

I am always worried about Pakistan but i want to bring context to u.s designs as they are same

At what point will you stop worrying about Syria and start worrying about pakistan ?

all over the world

 

[Shankranthi]

I am always worried about Pakistan but i want to bring context to u.s designs as they are same

all over the world

US operates on the principle of SELF INTEREST, same as pakistan. Same as china.

Only in case of pakistan, its not self-interest but interest of the "establishment".

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

As if Pak is terrorized to death!!! As if she'll just give up and drop dead seeing the army of LGBTs!!! As if President Obama didn't say it on record that his worst nightmare is Pak, which wakes him up at the dead of the night amidst profuse sweating!! As if the MIT study hasn't confirmed that Pak can singularly change the world as we know it!!!

Super Powers after Super Powers failed to handle the mere Taliban (=students) from the elementary school!!!! Now, have they come to get hold of the Ustad (=master) of the graduate school of excellence?????

We are born at our homes, and we die at the battlefields - a Turkish saying

Hodri Meydan.....