WS-2 Multibarrel launcher

[egat1964]

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Pakistan's Chinese friends

 

[Xeric]

What about the A-100 MLRS..????

 

[TOPGUN]

Hey guys thats hot !! do we have this or thinking of getting it anyone knows?

 

[egat1964]

WS-2







A100

 

[fatman17]

is this comparable to the top-of-the-line russian MBRL?. i forget the model no.? india is in possession of that.

 

[IceCold]

So can this rocket be fitted with something like a biological or chemical war head apart from the conventional one?

 

[fatman17]

^^^the loading system seems to be very cumbersome!!!

 

[Contrarian]

is this comparable to the top-of-the-line russian MBRL?. i forget the model no.? india is in possession of that.

Smerch is the name.
And China has tried to copy that, but from what i have read, its not reliable. The accuracy is not worth mentioning.

 

[jaison]

the reason behind the success or propogated success of chinese weapons is because their press is not informed about the problems or difficulties in them.if a system is not operationaly ready there is no news about them and we assume they are operational but in india it is different because of "free press"and pak is also similar to china were there is no details offaults or teething problems in the press.even systems of highly advanced countries face problems and i am impressed by the fact that chinese or even pak 'labelled chinese weapons' dont undergo these problems

 

[egat1964]

Pinaka Multi Barrel Rocket Launcher
Type Rocket artillery
Place of origin India
Caliber 214mm
Barrels 12
Rate of fire Rockets - 12 in < 40 sec
Maximum range 40 km / 120 km
Warhead weight 100kg


WS-2
Rocket calibre 400mm
Rocket length 7,302mm
Rocket weight 1,285kg
Warhead 200kg
Speed Mach Mach 5.6
Min range 70km
Max range 400km
Probability deviation <0.17&#37;
Reloading time 12 min
Launch tubes 6

 

[fatman17]

^^^it is obvious "the smerch / pinka is much superior in operations.

 

[araz]

the reason behind the success or propogated success of chinese weapons is because their press is not informed about the problems or difficulties in them.if a system is not operationaly ready there is no news about them and we assume they are operational but in india it is different because of "free press"and pak is also similar to china were there is no details offaults or teething problems in the press.even systems of highly advanced countries face problems and i am impressed by the fact that chinese or even pak 'labelled chinese weapons' dont undergo these problems

I dont want to start a flame war here. But I woulld like to refue your statement, which I think is very condescending and unrealistic. I think to look at it objectively,you have to compare the time for anouncement of the existance of a product to its completion and induction. System for system, Pakisan and China are ahead of India.
It may be the ethos of manufacturing that the two utilize, but unfortunately, at the moment it does not seem to be working fo India. It may only be a developmental phase, but I think that to ignore this deficiency is going to harm India in the long run.
Regards
Araz

 

[EagleEyes]

the reason behind the success or propogated success of chinese weapons is because their press is not informed about the problems or difficulties in them.if a system is not operationaly ready there is no news about them and we assume they are operational but in india it is different because of "free press"and pak is also similar to china were there is no details offaults or teething problems in the press.even systems of highly advanced countries face problems and i am impressed by the fact that chinese or even pak 'labelled chinese weapons' dont undergo these problems

Its not about "free press". Pakistan has more free press than all the countries combined. Most of the stuff is secretive, as well as somethings in this forum alone that you aren't aware that they exist. And as far as secrecy is concerned. Pakistan doesn't faces failures and failure to rectify the problems like India does.

 

[Contrarian]

^^^it is obvious "the smerch / pinka is much superior in operations.

If incase you were not sarcastic in that post fatman, let me just say that Smerch and Pinaka are weapons for different. Pinaka is not a reverse engineered Smerch, it doesnt come close to Smerch in its technical capabilities as of now.

Smerch is a extremely long range and highly accurate MRBL but it is also bloody expensive to use. Russia has another ultra long range rocket in developent for Smerch systems. It also utilizes some kind of mechanism that i absolutely cannot recall that makes it accuracy very very good at such ranges. India cannot afford Smerch in big numbers, every rocket fired from Smerch costs a ridiculous stupendous amount of money.

Smerch will basically be used in counter-arty role.

Pinaka OTOH is quite cheap to use in comparison with Smerch and much simpler and easier to manufacture. It is for filling of the numbers. It is not required to be as accurate as Smerch because of its numbers. It will be used for the mass effect, ie destroying an area completely using multiple Pinaka's,so accuracy is irrelevant beyond a point. Smerch cannot be used for that role because its expensive.

However that being said, that was what the Pinaka was designed for, halfway down the road, the IA as usual changed their GSQR's and demanded that Pinaka be as accurate as Smerch. So now, Israel is developing a course correction system for Pinaka. Its development phase is in its final stages, and it will be fit on all the Pinaka systems.

Apart from that a longer ranged Pinaka is also being developed.

P.S And the WS2 is notoriously unreliable as well as inaccurate.

 

[fatman17]

the reason behind the success or propogated success of chinese weapons is because their press is not informed about the problems or difficulties in them.if a system is not operationaly ready there is no news about them and we assume they are operational but in india it is different because of "free press"and pak is also similar to china were there is no details offaults or teething problems in the press.even systems of highly advanced countries face problems and i am impressed by the fact that chinese or even pak 'labelled chinese weapons' dont undergo these problems

on the contrary - in pakistan's case when we did not have a indigineous weapon-system program we were forced to accept systems which were not condusive for our conditions and requirements. e.g. patton m-48s, f-104 starfighter, abrams mia2 and the like. all our high-profile weapons development (with chinese assistence) have come up to our expectations, e.g. k-8 trainer, mushaq basic trainer, al-zarrar, al-khalid and now the jf-17.
india i am sure has had many successes but the two high-profile programs are beset with problems e.g. arjun, lca and now there are reports of the dhruv being rejected by the indian navy.