Writer and disability campaigner thrashed in Goa theatre for not standing up during national anthem

[TimePass]

Well I never studied under the syllabus with which your were educated, or maybe I'm a bad student. LOL

According to our constitution the fundamental right are;

• Right to Equality
• Right to Freedom
• Right against Exploitation
• Right to Freedom of Religion
• Cultural and Educational Rights
• Right to Constitutional Remedies

What you told may very well fall under Fundamental duties.

It shall be the duty of every citizen of India —

• To abide by the Constitution and respect its ideals and institutions, the National Flag and the National Anthem;
• To cherish and follow the noble ideals which inspired our national struggle for freedom;
• To uphold and protect the sovereignty, unity and integrity of India;
• To defend the country and render national service when called upon to do so;
• To promote harmony and the spirit of common brotherhood amongst all the people of India transcending religious, linguistic and regional or sectional diversities; to renounce practices derogatory to the dignity of women;
• To value and preserve the rich heritage of our composite culture;
• To protect and improve the natural environment including forests, lakes, rivers and wild life, and to have compassion for living creatures;
• To develop the scientific temper, humanism and the spirit of inquiry and reform;
• To safeguard public property and to abjure violence;
• To strive towards excellence in all spheres of individual and collective activity so that the nation constantly rises to higher levels of endeavor and achievement;
• Who is a parent or guardian to provide opportunities for education to his child or ward, as the case may be, between the age of six to fourteen years

Fundamental Rights and Duties


But again as per our constitution never standing while National anthem is played never amount to disrespect.

As provided in Section 3 of the Act, whoever intentionally prevents the singing of the Jana Gana Mana or causes disturbances to any assembly engaged in such singing shall be punished with imprisonment for a term, which may extend to three years, or with fine, or with both.

If you don't know the constitution, law and it's provisions please don't come for some petty argument. First please try and get some correct knowledge and then argue.

This was a clear case of intervention into the Fundamental Rights of Mr. Chaturvedi and the couple who did that are at fault. Period.

What a load of BS.

My reply to you is the same as the reply Javed Akhtar famously gave to Asaduddin Owaisi when he went around making a similar absurd claim saying that the constitution does not force him to say 'Bharat mata ki Jai".

Javed Akhtar - "The Constitution does not tell him to wear the Sherwani either".


Not every action is guided by the constitution. Constitution only determines the LAW. Nothing else.

The India constitution does not define "Patriotism" either. That does not mean its any less real or meaningful or valuable.

Then there is something called a SOCIAL CONTRACT. Its an unwritten social code and values.



Only a moron or someone with malefic intent will quote the Constitution when the questions being asked and answered lies outside the constitution.

 

[illuminatidinesh]

Let me make it easy for you.

The mistake was made by that disable person by now showing appropriate respect toe the National anthem and the Nation Flag.

THIS is how its done,

Oh really So u teach all disabled person to salute?
Do u even have any idea what disability that person is suffering from? In this case Spinal cord injury - anything below the level of injury is wastebag..... What should this person do if the level of injury is at cervical level(neck) ? His hands wont function, .....
People like you are good for nothing , You are the one s who make life difficult for these differently abled persons. You guys really rock at being insensitive.....

Are you joking ? One does not have to be a 'soldier' to show respect when the National anthem is playing.

Every body has to stand when the national anthem is playing, not only soldiers. IF you cannot stand, the next thing you do is salute. THAT is how you show respect.

Its unlikely the other person would have 'hit' in the traditional use of the word, he would have given that guy a hard swipe or a hard tap.

But that person also had the decency to Apologise for his behaviour after realising the man was handicapped. That shows more decency than the handicapped man who did not even salute when the anthem was playing.

Our place not being handicap friend is a fact but that's a totally different argument and topic and has nothing to do with what happened. If we were handicap friendly, then the message should have asked the handicapped people to salute for the national anthem.

How does a Cerebral palsy person show respect to National anthem being played in Theaters?
You have no idea about differently abled persons do u?

 

[TimePass]

Oh really So u teach all disabled person to salute?
Do u even have any idea what disability that person is suffering from? In this case Spinal cord injury - anything below the level of injury is wastebag..... What should this person do if the level of injury is at cervical level(neck) ? His hands wont function, .....
People like you are good for nothing , You are the one s who make life difficult for these differently abled persons. You guys really rock at being insensitive.....

No, I would prefer that the disabled educate themselves.

Saves me the trouble.

How do you even know that I am not a disable person ? your pompous self righteous attempt to sound holier than thou is just a feeble attempt at showcasing a fake outrage.

What is a person is blind and deaf ? what if the person has no hand and no legs ? what if the person is a retard ? what if ...what if ...what if..

Maybe you just called a disabled person " good for nothing", and "insensitive".


All your fake outrage is just plain disgusting and a poor attempt to hide behind the misery of others after being exposed for a fool.

Shame on You.

 

[illuminatidinesh]

This is not an ugly incident, but just an incident where,

1. Disrespect was shown by handicapped person
2. Disrespect was shown by person who hit the handicap person
3. Apology was given by the person who hit.
4. The couple who started the fracas felt suitably ashamed to leave the theatre before the movie started.
5. The handicapped person continues to feel no sense of what he did wrong, instead chose to focus on all that others did wrong.
6. BBC seeing an excellent opportunity to undermine patriotism in India.
7. Children of Macaulay gulping down bbc propaganda.


SO yes, for correcting something. one HAS to recognise and admit the mistakes. Can you ?

Lol
Lets take up a challenge now, Y dont u put urself in a wheel chair and traverse from ur home to ur nearest theater showing all your patriotism till the theater. U take the most loved one with you and lets discuss what kind feeling you have then.
I really amazed to see people like you who imagine Patriotism is ur household property.

 

[Fireurimagination]

This was a clear case of intervention into the Fundamental Rights of Mr. Chaturvedi and the couple who did that are at fault. Period.

Well the couple were also exercising their right to Free Speech guaranteed by the constitution just a minor misunderstanding and nothing else

 

[TimePass]

How does a Cerebral palsy person show respect to National anthem being played in Theaters?
You have no idea about differently abled persons do u?

First step would be to treat them with dignity and not use their misery to score points to defend your @ss.

 

[illuminatidinesh]

No, I would prefer that the disabled educate themselves.

Saves me the trouble.

How do you even know that I am not a disable person ? your pompous self righteous attempt to sound holier than thou is just a feeble attempt at showcasing a fake outrage.

What is a person is blind and deaf ? what if the person has no hand and no legs ? what if the person is a retard ? what if ...what if ...what if..

Maybe you just called a disabled person " good for nothing", and "insensitive".


All your fake outrage is just plain disgusting and a poor attempt to hide behind the misery of others after being exposed for a fool.

Shame on You.

Lol the height of ignorance
You have no idea what you are talking, I could have you sued if I was in India for using the filthy language you are using against Differently abled.
Pathetically its just this mindset among our population which makes life even more difficult for them.

First step would be to treat them with dignity and not use their misery to score points to defend your @ss.

Lol look who is scoring points and who is treating them with dignity.....

 

[TimePass]

Lol
Lets take up a challenge now, Y dont u put urself in a wheel chair and traverse from ur home to ur nearest theater showing all your patriotism till the theater. U take the most loved one with you and lets discuss what kind feeling you have then.
I really amazed to see people like you who imagine Patriotism is ur household property.

Pathetic and disgusting

What makes you think you can issue your "certificates" to me you low life ? Is using the disabled to hide your own disgusting nature your household property and birth right ?

Lol the height of ignorance
You have no idea what you are talking, I could have you sued if I was in India for using the filthy language you are using against Differently abled.
Pathetically its just this mindset among our population which makes life even more difficult for them.

Lol look who is scoring points and who is treating them with dignity.....

.... since you have been reduced to calling names and issuing "certificates" I think you can now qualify for being a retard and claim disability.

 

[illuminatidinesh]

Pathetic and disgusting :down:

What makes you think you can issue your "certificates" to me you low life ? Is using the disabled to hide your own disgusting nature your household property and birth right ?

I aint using nothing Mr Patriotism I am just doing what I was doing for the whole of my life , ie teaching certain morons to be sensitive to Differently abled persons. My credentials are stronger than you think as I was part of drafting committee for the changes into Persons with disability act 2014...
Pity some noobs never change and continue to be hurdle......

 

[TimePass]

I aint using nothing Mr Patriotism I am just doing what I was doing for the whole of my life , ie teaching certain morons to be sensitive to Differently abled persons. My credentials are stronger than you think as I was part of drafting committee for the changes into Persons with disability act 2014...
Pity some noobs never change and continue to be hurdle......

LOL.... sure you are

I am the queen of england. Do come and meet me whenever you are in London. cheerios.

 

[Tom M]

What a load of BS.

My reply to you is the same as the reply Javed Akhtar famously gave to Asaduddin Owaisi when he went around making a similar absurd claim saying that the constitution does not force him to say 'Bharat mata ki Jai".

Javed Akhtar - "The Constitution does not tell him to wear the Sherwani either".


Not every action is guided by the constitution. Constitution only determines the LAW. Nothing else.

The India constitution does not define "Patriotism" either. That does not mean its any less real or meaningful or valuable.

Then there is something called a SOCIAL CONTRACT. Its an unwritten social code and values.



Only a moron or someone with malefic intent will quote the Constitution when the questions being asked and answered lies outside the constitution.

When it is clearly defined in the constitution that what it means by disrespect to national anthem, if you are patriotic enough what is the harm in following that ??

Prevention of Insults to National Honour Act, 1971 is an Act of the Parliament of India which prohibits desecration of or insult to the country's national symbols, including the National Flag, The Constitution, Indian map and the National Anthem.

As provided in Section 3 of the Act, whoever intentionally prevents the singing of the Jana Gana Mana or causes disturbances to any assembly engaged in such singing shall be punished with imprisonment for a term, which may extend to three years, or with fine, or with both.

When there is a well stated law for this, what SOCIAL CONTRACT are you talking about ?? He has not done anything wrong. But still if you think he is wrong, then I'm sorry but I will have to call you a non-patriotic person since you don't care to respect "THE CONSTITUTION OF INDIA"

When Mr. Chadurvedi didn't do anything wrong at all, why do you support someone who tried to interfere in his fundamental rights ??

Even if he did, still the couple don't have the right to question him.

Sorry to say, but mindset of the guy's like you are the main cause for abusing people on the basis of what they eat, drink or do. All of these things are matter of personal choice unless and until it interferes into someone else's rights.

 

[illuminatidinesh]

.... since you have been reduced to calling names and issuing "certificates" I think you can now qualify for being a retard and claim disability.

I wonder where I have used any certain words that have offended you? To me you are just one among the population who dont care about people of India (which includes differently abled) but high talk about patriotism ...

 

[TimePass]

I wonder where I have used any certain words that have offended you? To me you are just one among the population who dont care about people of India (which includes differently abled) but high talk about patriotism ...

Is that the final "certificate" ? ...... I now accept that you are a certified retard, a bonafide disabled person.

 

[illuminatidinesh]

As provided in Section 3 of the Act, whoever intentionally prevents the singing of the Jana Gana Mana or causes disturbances to any assembly engaged in such singing shall be punished with imprisonment for a term, which may extend to three years, or with fine, or with both.

When there is a well stated law for this, what SOCIAL CONTRACT are you talking about ?? He has not done anything wrong. But still if you think he is wrong, then I'm sorry but I will have to call you a non-patriotic person since you don't care to respect "THE CONSTITUTION OF INDIA"

When Mr. Chadurvedi didn't do anything wrong at all, why do you support someone who tried to interfere in his fundamental rights ??

Even if he did, still the couple don't have the right to question him.

Sorry to say, but mindset of the guy's like you are the main cause for abusing people on the basis of what they eat, drink or do. All of these things are matter of personal choice unless and until it interferes into someone else's rights.

There is some thing called Persons With Disability act 1995,1999 and Rehabilitation council of India Act which fortunately ensures Mr Chadurvedi 's right even stronger.

Is that the final "certificate" ? ...... I now accept that you are a certified retard, a bonafide disabled person.

There you go, Retard is the offensive word for ur kind information. Lol

 

[TimePass]

There you go, Retard is the offensive word for ur kind information. Lol

Nonsense, I meant it as a word of praise for you. lol.