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Any hit's a bad hit in an IFV-any IFV. JMHO.
Oh, you can have such a positive outlook at times ..
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Any hit's a bad hit in an IFV-any IFV. JMHO.
It's a big target. I'm a small target. Please drive very fast to my destination and let me get small again.
Originally Posted by S-2
It's a big target. I'm a small target. Please drive very fast to my destination and let me get small again.
Exactly the thinking that made me decide that I wanted to be Light Infantry
"It is slow yes, but again do you really want to be going 50 to 100 miles or even Km an hour in the middle of a crouded city."
I don't know...if making a "thunder run" through Baghdad by way of introduction is what you've in mind, it sorta helps.
IFVs and armor operate very carefully in cities. You rarely plan mounted assaults beyond the LOS of covering fire. That covering fire, btw, must be able to elevate to the highest possible target. In many cases, this isn't possible.
On the open battlefield, though, there's no substitute for speed when mounted in an IFV. None of the aforementioned vehicles will take a hit from modern ATGM much less 120-125mm main tank gun fire. You'd best move fast across open ground into dead-zones to survive.
that is not the correct picture of the tarmour...as the specifications suggest that t is equipped witha 125mm main gun...a co-ax machine gun and an anti-aircrat gun...all that is visible are the smoke grenade launchers...surely it is the wrong pic or an incomplete one...
this link has the specifications of the tarmour and a quite hazy pic...Ordnance Factory Board
But they all have big flat bottoms. So how IED resistant are they?
I am not impressed with the Indians in this case it is a box on tracks. This vechile is ment to take out snipers, and insurgents in building. That is what the armor is designed to stop. Look at any European and US IFV in Iraq non of them can defeat RPGs coming in from high areas. It is slow yes, but again do you really want to be going 50 to 100 miles or even Km an hour in the middle of a crouded city. This vechile can protect and deploy small unit to take out special priority targets. In modern war fair when was the last time you saw more then 7 men entering a single building on raids.
Depending on the heavy APC in question crews vary 2-3 and personnel 5-10.I don't really like it, carries only 5 troops and it's slow as hell. As pointed out above it doesn't seem to have been developed to tackle mines very well either, it represents a decade or two old combat tactics.
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But they all have big flat bottoms. So how IED resistant are they?
Since they are converted MBTs, as IED resistant as MBTs are, I recon.
I think you missed the implied subtly of the rhetoric..
They are not IED proof in fact possibly less IED proof than some of the wheeled varieties..
Exactly the thinking that made me decide that I wanted to be Light Infantry
Sir I respect what you are saying espically about open battle fields but again this vechile was designed and will only be used in urban warfair. And for urban warfare it is one of the best there is. Other wise like you said this vechile could only take so much damage in open battlefield before it became its operators finial resting place.
Dude in a urban environment armour is dead with infantry in advance of it. Even MBT's would take a beating because they can't cover all the angles. (HEnce the TUSK upgrades to the M1) In OBUA you get the troops out and let them clear areas and use armour as mobile pillboxes for support. Or to break strongpoints