World INDIA is derived from Indus a Pakistani river,you shld rename India :Fawad Hussain ‏

[B.K.N]

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Indus flows through India before so it is an Indian river.

Indus flows through Pakistan only India have no control over it

 

[Indus Pakistan]

I can't resist this thread. First the facts. Indus River originates in China and then flows through that country into disputed J&K, but even if we overlook that it's journey through 'India' is short before it entires Pakistan. Possibly upward of 94% of Indus flows through Pakistan with rest of the 6% shared by China and India. So clearly by that measure it is a Pakistani river. If source is used as criterion then it is a Chinese river.

But beyond that is the issue of impress or impact. Indus has nominal effect on China or India as it is literrally on their extremities barely touching the countries major populations which are far away. However Indus as it flows through it's 94% journey through Pakistan impacts almost every region of the country and directly nourishes water to all of Pakistan. Indus is like the human artery Aorta that feeds the entire body. Almost every farming field in Pakistan that is green is being fed by the mighty Indus river system. Indeed the Indus is more significant to Pakistan then Nile is in Egypt as that rivers runs through at least 5 African countries before entering Egypt.

In fact there could be no Pakistan WITHOUT Indus. Our history, our economy, our entire existence is premised on the River Indus. Anybody who has doubts about that can test that contention. Draw a computation that severs the Indus River flow to zero and see the effects. By the week Pakistan would begin to turn into desert and farms would dry up and country would face mass starvation and civil disorder as water would run out across huge swathes of the country.

It is histories ironies that the land that gave birth to the name India [specifivally Sindh province] today is not known by that name but countries or lands far and wide that have NOTHING to do with the historical cradle that birthed this name carry it, examples are Indonesia, India, Indiana, Indies [West], Indochina etc.

But Pakistan being divorced from it's historical legacy is not unique. Today we have a country called Romania that has zilch to do withthe Roman Empire and on the contrary that land that birthed that great empire is called Italy.

Other examples are Asia. Originally this meant the Anatolian [Turkish] coast as opposed to Europa [Greece]. Then it became attached to all of modern Turkey [Asia Minor], then moved to being mean the entire continent of Asia. Today in USA Asia often means Japanese, Chinese etc, in UK it means Paks, Indians etc and calling Turks Asian is almost unknown.

With referance to India, River Ganga occupies a gravitas in that country that is analgous to Indus in Pakistan, Nile in Egypt etc. If you look at the number of Indians who live on or in the watershed of Ganga [over 60% or 700 million Indians], major population centres, pivotal states like Utter Pradesh, New Delhi the capital, Hindu holy sites like Varanasi leaves no doubt that Ganga definese India and Indian history.

The story of Indus is story of Pakistan, the story of India is story of Ganga. Indeed India is Gangadesh.

At a personal level, ever since I read Aitzaz Ahsan's Indus Saga ~Making of Pakistan which had a profound influence on my thinking, I take pride that Indus River has been one of the four cradles of human civilizations and that Pakistan needs to celebrate and own like Egypt, Iraq, China do.

 

[B.K.N]

Almost every farming field in Pakistan that is green is being fed by the mighty Indus river system

I think Chenab and Jehlum irrigate more land than Indus

 

[Indus Pakistan]

I think Chenab and Jehlum irrigate more land than Indus

Both are tributeries of Indus.

Furthermore two canals transfer water to Jhelum River from the Indus, from Chasma and Taunsa. Please look below at the Indus water schema.

And going forward you will notice all the empasis is on building new dams on Indus to address the fast approaching water crisis in Pakistan. Be it at Diamer-Bhasha, Kalabagh or further north in Gilgit Baltistan. Only Indus offers the potential to meet future needs.

 

[SIPRA]

I think Chenab and Jehlum irrigate more land than Indus

Both are tributary of Indus River. They are part of Indus River System.

 

[B.K.N]

In fact there could be no Pakistan WITHOUT Indus. Our history, our economy, our entire existence is premised on the River Indus.

This is hundred percent true without These rivers Pakistan is just a dessert
Like Thal dessert which is in the centre of Punjab in between jehlum and Indus rivers

 

[B.K.N]

Even our animals are different in appearance and magnitude...

Sir actually our cattle is smaller compared to European and is less productive

 

[Indus Pakistan]

This is hundred percent true without These rivers Pakistan is just a dessert
Like Thal dessert which is in the centre of Punjab in between jehlum and Indus rivers

In geography river syatems are grouped by watersheds or catachment areas. Meaning where does rainwater eventually flow to? This is the Indus River system and notice the catchemt area. All water in that area eventually flows into Indus and discharges into the Arabian Sea. Most of the Indus system is zoned on Pakistan with bits touching Afghanistan, China and India.

 

[Mamadouso]

It is histories ironies that the land that gave birth to the name India [specifivally Sindh province] today is not known by that name but countries or lands far and wide that have NOTHING to do with the historical cradle that birthed this name carry it, examples are Indonesia, India, Indiana, Indies [West], Indochina etc.

How and why did places in far away US like Indiana get named & terms like ‘American Indians’ or Red Indians first get used? Surely India the country should disassociate from that and use a more indigenous name. That is why other countries like Thailand & Iran stopped using foreign derived names like Siam & Persia.

 

[newb3e]

rename to Hindu-satan

 

[Yankee-stani]

In geography river syatems are grouped by watersheds or catachment areas. Meaning where does rainwater eventually flow to? This is the Indus River system and notice the catchemt area. All water in that area eventually flows into Indus and discharges into the Arabian Sea. Most of the Indus system is zoned on Pakistan with bits touching Afghanistan, China and India.

Indus chacha you back we need more threads like this screw Indosphere and Indophilla

 

[rishav]

Don't know why pakistanis always try to differentiate themselves from us indians and funny thing is they take pride in that , as if it is something rare . People everywhere are different . Differences occur because people around the world have evolved under different environmental conditions . Because of this there will always be differences in terms of height , facial features , skin color etc .

 

[newb3e]

Sorry, my dear Pak.

No can do!

Without Sindu there is no Hindu... it is our Word. Copyright!

@Indus Pakistan has rightly bestowed upon people from our east the Gangadesh or Gangaland....

But we must address others with their proper names. It is Our Tahzeeb!

we should give up our right to word sindhu if they rename india to hindu-satan! for some humor i am sure we can do that!

 

[newb3e]

Oh... you one tough Pak!

How about

Ganga-S*tan?

NO?

Please, remember we have proud Paks from hindu baraderi... so out respect for our own people I don't like to give Our Word to good people of Gangees...

One of our best Cheif Justice of SCP was a hindu... so... respect!

you had to!!!

gangu-satan will work.

 

[letsrock]

Hindu, India are all names gives to land by outsiders. And I doubt India is derived from Indus because the name is used for indigenous groups in Americas too. I think India is derived from Indigenos which simply means indigenous. Such labels are usually given to tribalistic people without any strong self identity. For example no one calls chinese, turks or french as indians because they already have strong uniform national identities. Indians divided in to castes, languages did not have one and so were abstracted as Indians. This is one theory.