World can learn from India's move on Afghanistan: UK envoy

[SMC]

^^^wat ever

wat is world calling

World has particular interests that dictates what it calls.

 

[Hammy007]

we will keep suppourting our traditional frnds

traditional friend , what tradition do you share with afghanis??

 

[notsuperstitious]

traditional friend , what tradition do you share with afghanis??

Traditional friendship.

India has had excellent relations with afghans since independence except during proxy talib rule.

 

[DavyJones]

Yes India is helping Afghanistan for gaining a foothold in that country. But the Afghanis have welcomed us into their country and are gaining from India's help. India is interested in seeing a progressive, modern Afghanistan and so is the rest of the world. What does Pak want Afghanistan to be ? Let my Pak friends answer this!

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Yes India is helping Afghanistan for gaining a foothold in that country. But the Afghanis have welcomed us into their country and are gaining from India's help. India is interested in seeing a progressive, modern Afghanistan and so is the rest of the world. What does Pak want Afghanistan to be ? Let my Pak friends answer this!

The indian helping afghanistan its good but hard to swallow that a third world country with 40 crores of its population living under poverty wants to develope a war torn unsettled failed state??Some say TRADITIONAL FRIENDSHIP i say BALONEY wasnt it the indian army under command of the BRITS that attacked AFGHANISTAN in early 19th century?Is that TRADITIONAL FRIENDSHIP?indians dont share even 1 traditional,religious or cultural tie with AFGHANs except the fact that she supported the CURSED SHUMALI ATEHAD or Northern allience and USSRs invasion in 1970s.While you talk about Ahmed shah masooud you forget he was one of the men who fought against INDIAN and NOTHERN ALLIENCE supported USSR INVASION OF AFGHANISTAN, and still he is not the hero of more then 55% Pashtoon population of afghanistan.
Hazars and tajiks no offence are reguarded as LOWER PEOPLE and traitors while india supports them.Talibs are and were supported by pushtoon majority and if they werent how would they be hunting NATO without LOCAL SUPPORT?
Indians in afghanistan work like bheegi billis no offence do you think after NATO leaves you will survive there?When these days even NATO and afghan govt consisting of shumalis are trying to talk to TALIBAN by talking of giving them money power and status in the govt??Even NATO is offering them.
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[H2O3C4Nitrogen]

NEW DELHI: Ahead of the London conference on Afghanistan next week, British high commissioner Richard Stagg on Friday lauded India's reconstruction efforts in the strife-torn country and said the world could learn "some lessons" from it.

Since when did UK started wight lifting ...?

 

[DavyJones]

PakistaniNationalist - thank you for reinforcing the fact that for you violence and killing innocents is justified!

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

PakistaniNationalist - thank you for reinforcing the fact that for you violence and killing innocents is justified!

I beg your pardon?Where did i justify anything?Maybe your just sea sick.

 

[equiliz3r]

wasnt it the indian army under command of the BRITS that attacked AFGHANISTAN in early 19th century?Is that TRADITIONAL FRIENDSHIP?

wasnt Pakistan part of India at that time????

 

[illuminatus]

wasnt Pakistan part of India at that time????

Which part of Pakistan was part of India at that time? Be specific and elaborate in detail.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

wasnt Pakistan part of India at that time????

I think you didnt read the post correctly?And dude Muslims were never recruited vastly in brit army or indian army and most soldiers were hindus and sikhs.COMPRENDE

 

[karan.1970]

Which part of Pakistan was part of India at that time? Be specific and elaborate in detail.

I think he means the whole of it since this event is pre 1947

 

[karan.1970]

I think you didnt read the post correctly?And dude Muslims were never recruited vastly in brit army or indian army and most soldiers were hindus and sikhs.COMPRENDE

Not true.. Only Muslims of Bengal and Hindus of Oudh were discouraged from recruitment since they led the revolt of 1857. Ponjabi Muslims, Pathans and Baluchis formed a significant part of forces involved in the 3 Afghan wars..


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The British Army overcame the 1857 mutineers with the assistance of the few loyal regiments of the Bengal Army and the regiments of the Bombay and Madras Presidencies, which on the whole did not mutiny. But principally the British turned to the Gurkhas, Sikhs, Muslims of the Punjab and Baluchistan and the Pathans of the North West Frontier for the new regiments with which Delhi was recaptured and the Mutiny suppressed.

After the Mutiny the British developed the concept of the “Martial Races” of India. Certain Indian races were more suitable to serve as soldiers, went the argument, and those were coincidentally the races that had saved India for Britain. The Indian regiments that invaded Afghanistan in 1878, although mostly from the Bengal Army, were predominantly recruited from the “martial” races: Jats, Sikhs, Muslim and Hindu Punjabis, Pathans, Baluchis and Gurkhas.

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source: Battle of Kabul 1879 - Second Afghan War

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Not true.. Only Muslims of Bengal and Hindus of Oudh were discouraged from recruitment since they led the revolt of 1857. Ponjabi Muslims, Pathans and Baluchis formed a significant part of forces involved in the 3 Afghan wars..


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The British Army overcame the 1857 mutineers with the assistance of the few loyal regiments of the Bengal Army and the regiments of the Bombay and Madras Presidencies, which on the whole did not mutiny. But principally the British turned to the Gurkhas, Sikhs, Muslims of the Punjab and Baluchistan and the Pathans of the North West Frontier for the new regiments with which Delhi was recaptured and the Mutiny suppressed.

After the Mutiny the British developed the concept of the “Martial Races” of India. Certain Indian races were more suitable to serve as soldiers, went the argument, and those were coincidentally the races that had saved India for Britain. The Indian regiments that invaded Afghanistan in 1878, although mostly from the Bengal Army, were predominantly recruited from the “martial” races: Jats, Sikhs, Muslim and Hindu Punjabis, Pathans, Baluchis and Gurkhas.

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source: Battle of Kabul 1879 - Second Afghan War

dude that means only punjabis and rajputs in entire india are martial while all pakistanis are martial castes?
No offence im just asking?
doesnt that make 95 %indians un martial races?
Anyways even then how come INDIA IS A TRADITIONAL FRIEND OF AFGHANISTAN?????Itsnt that what the question was.

 

[EjazR]

dude that means only punjabis and rajputs in entire india are martial while all pakistanis are martial castes?
No offence im just asking?
doesnt that make 95 %indians un martial races?
Anyways even then how come INDIA IS A TRADITIONAL FRIEND OF AFGHANISTAN?????Itsnt that what the question was.

No, that means that the British massaged the egos of the "martial races" so that they would stay loyal. Otherwise before the revolt of 1857, majority of the British Indian army soldiers were from Bengal and UP. Besides, in modern warfare where there is hardly any hand to hand combat, there is no difference between these races.

Infact during the mughals as well, the Pashtoons were opposed to the mughals and they joined the sikhs to fight the mughal and rajput alliance.

At independence, while India supported Pakistan' membership at the US, Afghanistan opposed it at this was when it was the only other Muslim country other than Turkey not to be subordinated to ruled by foreign power. The Pashtun King of Afghanistan at that time wanted a united India or the de-recognition of the Durrand line and/or an independent Pashtonistan because in his perspective he saw the regime in Pakistan as pro-British nd hence anti-Afghan.

So there are historical reasons that need to be addressed why Afghanistan has not had favorable relations with Pakistan which has nothing to do with Indian propaganda since independence