Work on TAPI pipeline begins in Pakistan

[SoulSpokesman]

Max,

Wudnt routing CA gas through China and across the Karakoram into Pak not be prohibitively expensive?

Regards

I mean take a look at the map. Turkmen gas has to be taken through mountain terrain Uzbek/Tajikstan and the across the Pamir Knot - literally the roof of the world- and then through Sinkiang and again across the Karakoram into North end of Pak.

You might as well ditch CA Gas and take Iranian gas, instead.

Regards

 

[shahbaz baig]

first of all india is not interested in TAPI. Secondly there is also indian influence in Afghanistan. so how can you think that TAPI will be more beneficial for pakistan if there is also bad circumstances in Afghanistan.

TAPI is nothing but Wrong decision by our so called politicians, better to work with Iran-Pakistan Gas Pipe Line. As india already investing in Chabahar port, Russia Also investing about 10 billions $ in iran. why cant we build Iran-Pakistan Gas Pipe Line as india and Russia are investing in iran despite the US Sanctions on Iran.

Our Politicain just know one thing which is "Commission". and how to make happy to west and Arabs, and our whole nation is living in heaven of fools.

India influence will be on Iran too like Afghanistan because of Chabahar Port and Russia is full supporting to India.
also India is successfully influenced in west including US. (but iran is not like Afghanistan for india)

have you ever thought that we are being surrounded by India bit by bit. because our neighboring country get influenced by india.

Dil Tuo chahta hai Sary pakistani politicain ko Khomini ki tarz per ek Sath Bumb sy oura diya jae

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

This project is waste of time unless Pakistan occupies Afghan rouge area permenently

 

[TheTravla]

first of all india is not interested in TAPI. Secondly there is also indian influence in Afghanistan. so how can you think that TAPI will be more beneficial for pakistan if there is also bad circumstances in Afghanistan.

TAPI is nothing but Wrong decision by our so called politicians, better to work with Iran-Pakistan Gas Pipe Line. As india already investing in Chabahar port, Russia Also investing about 10 billions $ in iran. why cant we build Iran-Pakistan Gas Pipe Line as india and Russia are investing in iran despite the US Sanctions on Iran.

Our Politicain just know one thing which is "Commission". and how to make happy to west and Arabs, and our whole nation is living in heaven of fools.

India influence will be on Iran too like Afghanistan because of Chabahar Port and Russia is full supporting to India.
also India is successfully influenced in west including US. (but iran is not like Afghanistan for india)

have you ever thought that we are being surrounded by India bit by bit. because our neighboring country get influenced by india.

Dil Tuo chahta hai Sary pakistani politicain ko Khomini ki tarz per ek Sath Bumb sy oura diya jae

India and Afghanistan are pretty irrelevant, the biggest problem with TAPI isn't Afghanistan's instability or India's ability to influence certain proxies, it's Russia, their historical and expanding influence in CA is a cause for concern, plus their deep ties with India should have already raised eyebrows and made Pakistan put a stop to any such pipeline plans. The fact that it hasn't is typical of Pakistan, but what else can you expect from a nation that has made a bunch of looters their leaders who in turn listened to the Russian, Arabs and the Americans to put a stop to the IP pipeline which has jeaporised Pakistan's national security

The Iranian pipeline is the ONLY solution.

 

[Chak Bamu]

TAPI is not only viable, it makes great geo-strategic sense as well.

Afghanistan can not forever stay in this state. Its only projects like these that create linkages and economic incentives to improve cooperation and encourage stability.

People need to think a little and be willing to step out of their shells before letting their itchy fingers get the better of them.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

If you want to Risk , burning your life saving by puting your stack of cash on top of burning fire . Then be my guest this TAPI pipe line going thru Terrorist rouge region (Unclaimed region) is the same.

I don't mind this project if Pakistan occupied Afghan rouge region and it was a new integrated province

Afghan rouge region has no future , on its own ... no future

Only reality is as a province , an occupied Territory converted to province

Na Baba Na, sharafat se , Qatri Gas lo and mind our own business

 

[BABA AGHORI]

first of all india is not interested in TAPI. Secondly there is also indian influence in Afghanistan. so how can you think that TAPI will be more beneficial for pakistan if there is also bad circumstances in Afghanistan.

TAPI is nothing but Wrong decision by our so called politicians, better to work with Iran-Pakistan Gas Pipe Line. As india already investing in Chabahar port, Russia Also investing about 10 billions $ in iran. why cant we build Iran-Pakistan Gas Pipe Line as india and Russia are investing in iran despite the US Sanctions on Iran.

Our Politicain just know one thing which is "Commission". and how to make happy to west and Arabs, and our whole nation is living in heaven of fools.

India influence will be on Iran too like Afghanistan because of Chabahar Port and Russia is full supporting to India.
also India is successfully influenced in west including US. (but iran is not like Afghanistan for india)

have you ever thought that we are being surrounded by India bit by bit. because our neighboring country get influenced by india.

Dil Tuo chahta hai Sary pakistani politicain ko Khomini ki tarz per ek Sath Bumb sy oura diya jae

Well said bro.. Paksitan did not complete the pipeline because of two major factors, One is USA and other is Saudi and Qatar. Iran Pakistan pipeline would be a good solution, if ever it would be implemented. You can just figure out the price paksitan is paying to Qatar rather than Iran for same gas.

 

[ABCharlie]

This is literally a 'pipedream'.

 

[TheTravla]

TAPI is not only viable, it makes great geo-strategic sense as well.

Afghanistan can not forever stay in this state. Its only projects like these that create linkages and economic incentives to improve cooperation and encourage stability.

People need to think a little and be willing to step out of their shells before letting their itchy fingers get the better of them.

What strategic interest is there in propping up Tajikistan when it's in the claws of Russia? A Pro-Russian country that gladly let its own land be used in the Soviet-Afghan war to help India-Russia, an ally of a country that caused the break up off East-Pakistan, but you expect them not to cave into foreign pressure in order to turn off the oil supply if a war between Pakistan-India ensues?

Since Pakistan's inception, Afghanistan has never come to the table thanks to Pakistan's inability to deal in a diplomatic manner with all the parties in that country. For over seventy years the Pakistan-Afghanistan relationship has been dire. To assume that a pipeline fixes that is absurd.

Iran is pivotal to Pakistan and its energy supply route:

Independent - In its current state it wont be held hostage by a third party to turn off supply in eventuality of war with India

Secure - It crosses no third country like TAPI, less parties able to sabotage the energy pipeline

Cheaper energy prices - Eventually a connection to mainland China via Xinjiang and poss India via Lahore. A connection of TAPI doesn't involve China[makes no sense too, either] and do no transit fees to be gained

China - Less reliance on the Malacca strait, securing China's energy interest, acting as a gateway and bringing Iran into the fold helping forge strong + cohesive ties between the three countries and enabling Pakistan to have more influence.

Formation of strong ECO ties - Alongside Turkey negating Russia influence in Central Asia

Balochistan - Security

Afghanistan - A landlocked country helpless either way it has to work with Iran or Pakistan. Afghanistan either gets along with us or an ally in Iran. Enabling a favourable outcome either way

India - Curbing their influence, at the moment, they have little to no clout but that can all change should Pakistan persist to cast Iran aside. Pakistan cant afford problems with all the neighbours on our Eastern and Western front

That's just to name a few. There's no comparison to be made between TAPI and the IP pipeline in terms of Pakistans' interests. Iran is too important to Pakistan.

 

[NakedLunch]

What strategic interest is there in propping up Tajikistan when it's in the claws of Russia? A Pro-Russian country that gladly let its own land be used in the Soviet-Afghan war to help India-Russia, an ally of a country that caused the break up off East-Pakistan, but you expect them not to cave into foreign pressure in order to turn off the oil supply if a war between Pakistan-India ensues?

Since Pakistan's inception, Afghanistan has never come to the table thanks to Pakistan's inability to deal in a diplomatic manner with all the parties in that country. For over seventy years the Pakistan-Afghanistan relationship has been dire. To assume that a pipeline fixes that is absurd.

Iran is pivotal to Pakistan and its energy supply route:

Independent - In its current state it wont be held hostage by a third party to turn off supply in eventuality of war with India

Secure - It crosses no third country like TAPI, less parties able to sabotage the energy pipeline

Cheaper energy prices - Eventually a connection to mainland China via Xinjiang and poss India via Lahore. A connection of TAPI doesn't involve China[makes no sense too, either] and do no transit fees to be gained

China - Less reliance on the Malacca strait, securing China's energy interest, acting as a gateway and bringing Iran into the fold helping forge strong + cohesive ties between the three countries and enabling Pakistan to have more influence.

Formation of strong ECO ties - Alongside Turkey negating Russia influence in Central Asia

Balochistan - Security

Afghanistan - A landlocked country helpless either way it has to work with Iran or Pakistan. Afghanistan either gets along with us or an ally in Iran. Enabling a favourable outcome either way

India - Curbing their influence, at the moment, they have little to no clout but that can all change should Pakistan persist to cast Iran aside. Pakistan cant afford problems with all the neighbours on our Eastern and Western front

That's just to name a few. There's no comparison to be made between TAPI and the IP pipeline in terms of Pakistans' interests. Iran is too important to Pakistan.

That's a pretty decent analysis.

 

[RealNapster]

This project is waste of time unless Pakistan occupies Afghan rouge area permenently

I see you asking for complete takeover of Afghanistan in each and every thread. i just have a single question.

"Ye aap ko gudda guddi ka khail lagta hay ? " .... Cut this crap man, it doesn't sound even funny anymore.

Afghanistan is a sovereign country. respect their sovereignty. only in that case they will respect your sovereign country.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Considering there is no stability in region for 30 years it is safe to call it a rouge region/Territory

It is just a bandit ridden , uncontrollable region with no civilian government control

You know Srilanka or Saudia are countries , or Bahrain you don't see unstability
there. So it is completely fair to say they are "Countries"

TAPI will eventually the rouge groups more powerful the money will make these rouge group command more power like how ISIS sold oil to gain more power

If things will not go there was they will resort to violence as they have a pattern of doing violent things.

Comparitively Qatar's Gas , is very simple importation process from brotherly nation which is completely stable

TAPI project is only doable if Pakistan controls all region and territories for controlling xyz groups by force