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Woman raped on Lahore Ring Road, infront of her two children.

Yes, but when Banu Qaynuqah tore the clothes off a Muslim woman, Rasul'Allah (saw) waged war on that tribe and expelled them from Madinah.

We should split the conversation about public safety from handling specific crimes. Yes, we may need to impose curfews on travel and bar women from certain areas. Fair. But we shouldn't let that discussion leak into the issue of this crime, and we should punish the individuals without excusing or explaining their actions by throwing it on the victim.
I agree with you --- it was never my intention to relate the Hadith in any way to the current incident --- it was a general reminder for both men & women.
 
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I agree with you --- it was never my intention to relate the Hadith in any way to the current incident --- it was a general reminder for both men & women.
But I agree with you as well. We'll need tough conversations about social norms, conventions, etc. Let's start with how we're raising our kids, what society's watching on TV, etc. I think we'll also need women as higher-ups in law-enforcement and courts for leading these issues too.
 
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vo tu pata nahi aya gaa ya nahi... model town ka kuch bana .. ???

police suna tha changebhoni the reform honay thay pata nahi 2 saal tu guzar gaye albata mujhe yaad aya woh apnaeek ghada kahta phirr raha tha kay “5 CEO change huway PIA kay pichlay 10 saloo may tu PIA nay khaak chalna tha” suna hay us ghaday nay 2 saal may 5 IG pata nahi kitnay CCPO aur SP change kardiye hain... aur suna hay Model Town may kartoot dekhanay walay afsroon may se jinko ghar bhetaya tha Noon Leaks nay woh b wapis lagadiye hain hhahahaha
 
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I know man. You know what's being discussed in my home nowadays, after so many cases have been highlighted recently? It's immigration again that I chose to get expired in 2019.

My plan was to open a diary business in Punjab upon my return, seems like I have to rethink about my options.

I know many will be furious on me for writing this, but a man with two daughters doesn't want to take chances.
Man never escapes. We fight the Zulm. No matter the results. May Allah help us in this fight against Zulm.
 
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No one is saying she didn't get rape. Ofcourse she was raped.
But was that really a rape and she just got caught in a situation or was that some personal enmity and she is trying to hide something.

What are you trying to say? Explain clearly.
 
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@Hiraa

as a result of social engineering (via european Ngos) under the patronage of our ruling elite, the social fabric of our society has been destroyed successfully--- men+ women, all are out of control -- Some wear sick cloths and some make sick comments -- (welcome to the age of Dajjal).
 
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Just heard the PM saying that he wishes for public hanging but not possible due to pressure from european union. ---- that's very typical of Pakistani rulers, they fear european union more than ALLAH swt's.
Interest bearing loans are the reason. Pressure from countries who run IMF and WB.

The reason why Riba is war against Allah and his Messenger (SAWW).
 
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I noticed a post which was a subtle attempt to justify vulgarity in this thread. Two posts removed in relation.

Do not try to give new spins to this discussion. Stick to the topic.
 
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Members are advised not to adopt subtle/half-baked methods to justify vulgarity in this thread. Two posts removed in relation
what vulgarity? I shared comments of people calling for rape
and you have removed it already if it violates forum rules
 
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