Woman acquires Indian passport by hiding her Pakistani nationality, arrested

[abdulrauf akhtar]

Oh ! Indian agencies got some work to do .

 

[Pakistanisage]

Send her back...

 

[StormShadow]

Because she was wrongly denied passport when she applied for the first time.

And why that happened?

Even if it was denied, that is not the reason for the misdeed which she has committed.

 

[Emmie]

Married to an Indian national in 1976 - 4 decades ago, almost.

Couple got settled in India in 1990 - 24 years ago

Lady surrendered her Pakistani passport in 1992 - 22 years ago

The couple have five children, all of them are married and are settled in India.

Still she can't obtain Indian nationality! Abysmal system of immigration.

Good work by the agencies.


Yeah. Arresting a woman who acquired a passport furnishing wrong details is called islamophobia.

No offence if a perjurer can make it to PM secretariat then what's wrong with the act of lady? Her case is genuine after all!

 

[StormShadow]

No offence if a perjurer can make it to PM secretariat then what's wrong with the act of lady? Her case is genuine after all!

Perjurer according to who? The supreme court of India would have taken action against him if it was true.

 

[Emmie]

Perjurer according to who? The supreme court of India would have taken action against him if it was true.

With same coin - what law in particular is prohibiting authorities to grant her Indian nationality?

BTW court binned the petition citing it was too late, it admitted that there were grounds for the case against perjurer.

 

[StormShadow]

With same coin - what law in particular is prohibiting authorities to grant her Indian nationality?

I'm not proficient in law as it's not my subject. I need some time to answer.

BTW court binned the petition citing it was too late, it admitted that there were grounds for the case against perjurer.

Those grounds were always very feeble. The SC could not prove, the SIT, numerous ngos all failed to provide a single proof against the "perjurer". More than the muslims themselves, the congress was hell bent against the so-called "perjurer". Still, nobody could prove any of the allegations.

 

[Emmie]

I'm not proficient in law as it's not my subject. I need some time to answer.

Those grounds were always very feeble. The SC could not prove, the SIT, numerous ngos all failed to provide a single proof against the "perjurer". More than the muslims themselves, the congress was hell bent against the so-called "perjurer". Still, nobody could prove any of the allegations.

Got it... No point discussing perjury and perjurer when one who knows zilch about terms. I am talking about hiding information while taking oath, not about riots and subsequent legal cases.

Familiarize yourself with the terms, this link might help you... perjury legal definition of perjury

 

[StormShadow]

Got it... No point discussing perjury and perjurer when one who knows zilch about terms. I am talking about hiding information while taking oath, not about riots and subsequent legal cases.

Familiarize yourself with the terms, this link might help you... perjury legal definition of perjury

I was fully aware of the meaning! I said, I'm not good at law since it's not my subject!
And my first question to you was, According to who, my PM is a perjurer!

 

[amitkriit]

Married to an Indian national in 1976 - 4 decades ago, almost.

Couple got settled in India in 1990 - 24 years ago

Lady surrendered her Pakistani passport in 1992 - 22 years ago

The couple have five children, all of them are married and are settled in India.

Still she can't obtain Indian nationality! Abysmal system of immigration.



No offence if a perjurer can make it to PM secretariat then what's wrong with the act of lady? Her case is genuine after all!

Indian Citizenship is based on jus sanguinis (Citizenship by right of Blood) hence a spouse of an Indian citizen doesn't automatically becomes an Indian Citizen unlike many western nations. But her children are Citizens of India because their father is an Indian Citizen.

Her case will be decided according to the the Indian Laws. My house my rules.

With same coin - what law in particular is prohibiting authorities to grant her Indian nationality?

BTW court binned the petition citing it was too late, it admitted that there were grounds for the case against perjurer.

Read the explanation given above. Citizenship is discretionary, it is not a right.

 

[Emmie]

I was fully aware of the meaning! I said, I'm not good at law since it's not my subject!
And my first question to you was, According to who, my PM is a perjurer!

O really? Supreme court was hearing the case on perjury, SIT was probing into the alleged misinformation provided by him in the affidavit filed along with nomination form! I am certainly ignorant about these developments, thanks for updating me...

 

[amitkriit]

O really? Supreme court was hearing the case on perjury, SIT was probing into the alleged misinformation provided by him in the affidavit filed along with nomination form! I am certainly ignorant about these developments, thanks for updating me...

In case of a Hindu Leader it always "Guilty unless proven Innocent" NO?

 

[janon]

No offence if a perjurer can make it to PM secretariat then what's wrong with the act of lady? Her case is genuine after all!

I forgot to reply to you when you said the same thing some time back. Modi did not commit perjury, if you are referring to him leaving his marital status blank. Until 2013, not all information was required to be filled in by the candidates. They could choose not to divulge certain personal info about themselves. Some info (such as assets and property) had to be declared, and could not be left blank. I think they used to call it "essential fields" v/s "non essential fields" in the forms. Divulging marital status was not compulsory until 2013. When the law was amended in 2013 and every column was required to be filled, Modi had no choice but to reveal his marital status. Before that, if he had explicitly described his status as unmarried, then he would have been guilty of misrepresentation (not perjury, which is technically lying under oath to a court). But leaving the column blank was well and truly legal.

Anyway, short version is that he was fully within his rights to leave that field blank, until 2013. If he had committed perjury or any such crime, the opposition parties would have made sure that he was sent to jail. Everybody has been investigating every nook and cranny to pin something tangible onto Modi.

 

[slapshot]

Send her back...

She must be cursing the decision of surrendering her Pakistani nationality. After spending years in India and raising kids of an Indian, that is what she deserve in the end. She should better get in touch with Pakistani authorities and maybe try to move back home.

 

[Emmie]

Indian Citizenship is based on jus sanguinis (Citizenship by right of Blood) hence a spouse of an Indian citizen doesn't automatically becomes an Indian Citizen unlike many western nations.

Citizenship Act, 1955, section 5.. Read it and replay taking post 19 into account.

@janon leave everything aside you have got a very strong memory. Could you please refer me to the revised rules, for my knowledge of course.