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wishes of many memebrs here granted - Indo-Pak border tensions escalates - Pak army moving forward

It started when Indians invited Pakistan Rangers for flag meeting and then some BSF yahoos killed two Ranger personal while they were on their way to meeting. Pakistan requested India to take action against those yahoos and their act of cowardice.



Pakistan does not wish for war. But India does. It is Indians who had never wished to solve Kashmir dispute and end the hatred once for ever. It is Indians who don't want Jinnah's dream of US/Canada type relations between Pakistan and India to succeed. Clapping has to be done by both hands. You can't desire for the piece of land of others and expect them to stay in peace.
Why can't we make the loc as permanent border. We already millions of Muslims living in India. So it is not like that Muslims can't live with India. As long as we keep blaming each other and plan to change loc, there can't be peace.
 
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Why can't we make the loc as permanent border. We already millions of Muslims living in India. So it is not like that Muslims can't live with India. As long as we keep blaming each other and plan to change loc, there can't be peace.

Why can't they have option for their right of self determination?

Why Hyderabad Deccan and Junagadh/Manvadar who opted not to be part of India but Pakistan but had Hindu majority was given right of self determination after Indian occupation and without any UN/International presence but Kashmir that had Muslim majority was not given same option?

Making loc as IB means showing middle finger to Pakistan, Kashmir and all those Pakistanis and Kashmiris who died for that cause.

India had gained nothing holding Kashmir at gunpoint since last 70 years. It could've gain a lot if instead of being stubborn it had solve the issue in 1948. No one in Pakistan cares if in referendum Kashmiris choose India or choose to become independent.
 
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Why can't they have option for their right of self determination?

Why Hyderabad Deccan and Junagadh/Manvadar who opted not to be part of India but Pakistan but had Hindu majority was given right of self determination after Indian occupation and without any UN/International presence but Kashmir that had Muslim majority was not given same option?

Making loc as IB means showing middle finger to Pakistan, Kashmir and all those Pakistanis and Kashmiris who died for that cause.
Hmm may be in future there could be self determination. Pakistan should try for it peacefully...violence will not give you an inch, no matter what you think of your armed forces. Or may be both countries should swap land area equal to valley.
 
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Yes yes same old theory of Indians are bhagwan rest are shaitan. Dude cut that cr@p man. Indians are not a special beings directly flew from the sky. You need to come out of that theories/propaganda taught to you in your childhood days and accept the reality which is the involvement of Indian army in terror activities.

You need to cut some "crap" that you put out & read what is being discussed. Random quoting without understanding either context or reference is a pain to deal with. Nobody in Pakistan has accused India of sending in armed men from the Eastern border. Not a single Indian has been killed by Pakistani forces while trying to infiltrate. Frankly, even on the western border you have not been able to do that. Make your case for involvement in Baluchistan & I might buy that if you show any proof. Making it with the TTP is a loony idea bought only by a few nutters in Pakistan. I'm not interested in your altered reality plane, make your argument on this plane where the rest of us reside.
 
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