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Winning chance against China is zero, according to Japanese war simulation

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Winning a war is not always an objective, funny you may think or say, but there are winning with few casualty, and there are winning with yourself suffer high casualty rate. The question is not whether or not China can win a war with Japan, but rather how much China willing to give to win a war with Japan.

Imerial Japan have no chance of winning a war with the US in WW2, but that does not mean they will just give up without a fight, we all see what happen to US trying to fight an island hopping campaign with Japan, if China want a war with Japan, the Chinese need to be willing to pay what US paid during WW2, and in todays term, probably more. That is the question the Chinese government need to ask themselves before asking for a war with Japan.

China will be more than willing to go extra mile, question is can japan survive, i don't think so, without US help japan's population will be at mercy of Chinese...... and with ageing population, Japanese will have to surrender if they want to survive their race.....
 
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Total number of cruise missles:

China : 17
India: 2


  • BrahMos-II / is a hypersonic missile currently under development in India and Russia.[6]
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  • Nirbhay India (1000 + km; failed in four trials) <== lulz



LRSAM And Brahmos will doom china.

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China will be more than willing to go extra mile, question is can japan survive, i don't think so, without US help japan's population will be at mercy of Chinese...... and with ageing population, Japanese will have to surrender if they want to survive their race.....

Strategy 101 , never expect your enemy will do what you want.

You are simplifiying the war aspect. In this day and age, although it is absurd to say they will fight to the last man, the problem is, do they have to?

China have power, but the thing is, they cannot use 20% of its power at a single occasion,, simply because you have 2 millions troop does not really translate to you can put 2 millions troop to Japanese shore in one go.

Strategically, you reequire 5 times the defender size to break the defence, and for this, Japan will find a way to make you pay for every inch of the ground as you fight closer to Japanese Mainland. While you are expecting the japanese to surrender, but history tell us they will do something else.

And as Mighty as China can be, it is impossible to wipe out the whole Japanese or their race from the face of the earth. It's naive to think China can....
 
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Winning a war is not always an objective, funny you may think or say, but there are winning with few casualty, and there are winning with yourself suffer high casualty rate. The question is not whether or not China can win a war with Japan, but rather how much China willing to give to win a war with Japan.

Imerial Japan have no chance of winning a war with the US in WW2, but that does not mean they will just give up without a fight, we all see what happen to US trying to fight an island hopping campaign with Japan, if China want a war with Japan, the Chinese need to be willing to pay what US paid during WW2, and in todays term, probably more. That is the question the Chinese government need to ask themselves before asking for a war with Japan.

Excellent. This is like true professional. Very nice analysis.
 
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This is coming from a country who needs to even import rifles. LOL

Same goes for their drones- Indians like to make their under-devlopment AURA bomber sound like a divine, killer machine

Indian UCAVs:


Chinese UCAVs:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_unmanned_aerial_vehicles_of_China <==== PDF wont allow me to type it all in the chatbox because it says there are more than 15000 characters lulz.
 
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This is coming from a country who needs to even import rifles. LOL

We import rifle and low tech goods from many countries. We do not focus now a days on low cost goods. We focus in space and missile technology and high tech fighters. We are busy in making Tejas Mk2 and launching 83 satellites in one mission and making of high tech missiles.
 
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Strategy 101 , never expect your enemy will do what you want.

You are simplifiying the war aspect. In this day and age, although it is absurd to say they will fight to the last man, the problem is, do they have to?

China have power, but the thing is, they cannot use 20% of its power at a single occasion,, simply because you have 2 millions troop does not really translate to you can put 2 millions troop to Japanese shore in one go.

Strategically, you reequire 5 times the defender size to break the defence, and for this, Japan will find a way to make you pay for every inch of the ground as you fight closer to Japanese Mainland. While you are expecting the japanese to surrender, but history tell us they will do something else.

And as Mighty as China can be, it is impossible to wipe out the whole Japanese or their race from the face of the earth. It's naive to think China can....

well china won't and don't need to conquer japan, the main battle ground is SCS and the islands, and militarily speaking it wont be a fight of man to man, rather machine and geographic proximity, so japan might put a good fight on its own, but will have to give in, once attrition factor and US does not comes in....... if latter happens than too, the battle would be prolonged but the outcome won't be different, because than chinese will be on defensive mode.......
 
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well china won't and don't need to conquer japan, the main battle ground is SCS and the islands, and militarily speaking it wont be a fight of man to man, rather machine and geographic proximity, so japan might put a good fight on its own, but will have to give in, once attrition factor and US does not comes in....... if latter happens than too, the battle would be prolonged but the outcome won't be different, because than chinese will be on defensive mode.......

Let me point out two point between this point you make and the last point you make.

1.) You said in your last point.

China will be more than willing to go extra mile, question is can japan survive, i don't think so, without US help japan's population will be at mercy of Chinese...... and with ageing population, Japanese will have to surrender if they want to survive their race.....

But in this post, you said China won't and don't need to conquer Japan, and the main battle ground is SCS and its island, if this is the case, then why would Japanese have to surrender if they want to survive their race as you said? A battle in South China Seas will not make Japanese extinct, unless of course everyone in Japan swam to SCS and fight the Chinese.

2.) Why would Japanese need to fight a war in South China Seas in the first place? They have no strategic interest in it, nor do they need to reach that far to touch China and Chinese Air Force or Navy.

The problem for you again, is that you have simplified the whole battle scenario and willingly think your enemy will follow your move. if the battle ground is in SCS, the only thing Japan need to do is to close off the top part of the japanese home island and do not allow the Chinese to get in, and if the China want t fight the Japanese, The Japanese will probably wait til the Chinese steam up and fight in their turf in japan sea or East China Sea. For which they can bring the combinaton of land, air and sea power on the Chinese.

In a strategic sense, there are no urge for Japanese to start any battle, they are smaller than the Chinese and they don't need to start the battle, let the Chinese take the initiative and engage Japan with the location of their choosing.

And no, even if US is to engage on the Japanese side in the SCS situation (which is odd to have a war in SCS with Japan to begin with) the US will not get into the SCS island chain, they will simply support the Japanese and hold off both Philippine Seas and Japan Seas together, when China can get nothing in and out, they would have to attack, instead of Japan. and since Japan is outside of China, and face an open oceans, China can never blockade Japan, but a combination of JPN and US force, on the other hand, can blockade the Chinese with a choke hold of Japan Seas and Philippine Seas, and it will force China to fight in a 2 pronge war. If US got involved in the SCS with Japan, China cannot win a 2 pronge war with Japan and US seperately.

The article is about a War between China and Japan in East China seas not South China seas, and to engage the Japanese in East China Seas, the Chinese MUST Attack and hold the surrounding Island or else they will pay a high price on winning a war with the Japanese, and that is the reason why I said what I said before. Eventually the China will win a battle in East China Seas, but how much of their ships and aircraft have to lose before it can reach that target is another matter, the same reason why China did not attack and recapture Taiwan for now.
 
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We import rifle and low tech goods from many countries. We do not focus now a days on low cost goods. We focus in space and missile technology and high tech fighters. We are busy in making Tejas Mk2 and launching 83 satellites in one mission and making of high tech missiles.
Lol...I not even gonna waste my time arguing. Seriously delusional bunch of people.
 
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China's H-20 will be a very useful weapon to bomb japan.

The reason why both PLAN and PLAAF are only interested in twin engine heavy weight stealth fighters are such fighters with superior range can helping PLA dominate the air over Tokyo and ensure the PLA airborne and bomber squad conduct their mission with indisputable air superiority.:enjoy:

And the US would not intervene if Tokyo is bombed?
 
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And the US would not intervene if Tokyo is bombed?
If Tokyo is bombed, USA will be deterred by their own survival instinct so they will have a good long debate about whether to help Japan. The war will be over well before any conclusion is reached.

Our General Yin Zhuo already declared on state-owned TV that we will use nuke if any nuclear attack is launched from a naval vessel or aircraft based in Japan or US homeland. This is considered defensive use of our nuclear weapons.
 
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