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Uh..karthic I wasn't necessarily referring to buying the Mig-35, more of a point regarding the demeaning remarks made by the poster.
Again, that is a very elusive prospect considering that twice the Indian lobby was successful in averting a Purchase of Russian aircraft back in the 90's. Not much will change now, And I dont think the Mig fit any requirement the PAF has, The Mix has been decided.. Jf-17/F-16/J-10.
the Rafale.. well lets just leave it at that.
The SH is a good option too, but its more of a bomb truck.. its A2A capabilities lie in its off boresight capability ala JHCMS,
something the Gripen will come with too.
Plus, on the off side the LCA is delayed further, the Gripen order can be increased to compensate since it covers that category as well.
Regards.
Crazy to buy the super expensive EF or Rafale. The IAF does not need air dominance fighters.The MKI is more than enough for any need.What they need is Air to ground attack crafts. The Mig 27 and Jags are pretty useless now. I mean after Kargil where these aircraft could not even work properly and the Mirages saved the day,it would be criminal not to get a dedicated Air to Ground aircraft. The Super Hornet is a bomb truck.Plus American products get delivered on time. It should be a welcome change to the Indian forces after the Russian and domestic experience of delays.
Id not go for the Rafale for two outstanding reasons, one, in almost every competition it took part in, it placed poorly, the Korean FSX, the Singaporean FSX.. and recently things arent looking too good with the Swiss either.
Agreed op req make a difference, but there must be some commonality with the IAF's ASR too that somehow I feel the Rafale wont make it(or it could be they announce it as the winner.. life is funny).
The Rafale's strike capability is much touted by the French, but in recent deployments for ISAF it had to rely on a mirage to lase the targets while it dropped. On the other hand the Gripen has made self lased drops already.
I agree the SH is a good choice, but all things considered, a single engined jet with similar capabilities and better maneuverability seems more appropriate, also it keeps the IAF from having to totally depend on a single supplier for TOT, the Gripen has its hands in many pockets, and even American companies benefit from it, so it still keeps the Americans a little happy while ensuring that in case..in case things go a little awry with corporate corridors the IAF has nothing to worry about. Since the engine on the Gripen is of the same F404 stock, the LCA program can be kept happy too..(so can the SH).. and it makes it possible to ditch the Kaveri with a little less heartburn in case it doesn't make the grade.
But probably the greatest advantage it has is its short field capbility, too many of the IAF's bases are currently close to the border, while it does allow for an easier reach and they may be well defended, I'm not what is the current status but most of IAF's current fleet apart from the Migs aren't too friendly with impromptu FOB's. Would it not be better, say in a scenario where the Indian forces manage to break deep into Chinese or Pakistani terribly to have an aircraft capable of flying from closer to the front lines??..with an 900m takeoff run.. the Gripen can carry a respectable CAS load, get to the target faster, get back faster and still be able to keep up with any expeditionary fighting force.
I have a personal dislike for the LCA which is not motivated by nationalism but rather by disappointment, I actually wished the LCA to look something like the S-56.. and would have looked much much nicer, flown much better and would have been easier to adapt for a Naval requirement. I suppose the DRDO had its reasons to go with the french delta philosophy.. I just don't like it.
Yeah thats my dog.. Ginger rani
u r right that's why f-18 SH and EF is best among them...but which one is best F-16IN Super Viper OR F-18 super Hornet....
The F-16 IN and the F-18 are strong in different ways...the F-16 is a comparatively light aircraft good at high speed dogfighting while the F-18 is a superb air to ground aircraft which is also great at dog fighting at low speeds.
Id not go for the Rafale for two outstanding reasons, one, in almost every competition it took part in, it placed poorly, the Korean FSX, the Singaporean FSX.. and recently things arent looking too good with the Swiss either.
Agreed op req make a difference, but there must be some commonality with the IAF's ASR too that somehow I feel the Rafale wont make it(or it could be they announce it as the winner.. life is funny).
The Rafale's strike capability is much touted by the French, but in recent deployments for ISAF it had to rely on a mirage to lase the targets while it dropped. On the other hand the Gripen has made self lased drops already.
Id not go for the Rafale for two outstanding reasons, one, in almost every competition it took part in, it placed poorly, the Korean FSX, the Singaporean FSX.. and recently things arent looking too good with the Swiss either.
Agreed op req make a difference, but there must be some commonality with the IAF's ASR too that somehow I feel the Rafale wont make it(or it could be they announce it as the winner.. life is funny).
The Rafale's strike capability is much touted by the French, but in recent deployments for ISAF it had to rely on a mirage to lase the targets while it dropped. On the other hand the Gripen has made self lased drops already.
I agree the SH is a good choice, but all things considered, a single engined jet with similar capabilities and better maneuverability seems more appropriate, also it keeps the IAF from having to totally depend on a single supplier for TOT, the Gripen has its hands in many pockets, and even American companies benefit from it, so it still keeps the Americans a little happy while ensuring that in case..in case things go a little awry with corporate corridors the IAF has nothing to worry about. Since the engine on the Gripen is of the same F404 stock, the LCA program can be kept happy too..(so can the SH).. and it makes it possible to ditch the Kaveri with a little less heartburn in case it doesn't make the grade.
But probably the greatest advantage it has is its short field capbility, too many of the IAF's bases are currently close to the border, while it does allow for an easier reach and they may be well defended, I'm not what is the current status but most of IAF's current fleet apart from the Migs aren't too friendly with impromptu FOB's. Would it not be better, say in a scenario where the Indian forces manage to break deep into Chinese or Pakistani terribly to have an aircraft capable of flying from closer to the front lines??..with an 900m takeoff run.. the Gripen can carry a respectable CAS load, get to the target faster, get back faster and still be able to keep up with any expeditionary fighting force.
I have a personal dislike for the LCA which is not motivated by nationalism but rather by disappointment, I actually wished the LCA to look something like the S-56.. and would have looked much much nicer, flown much better and would have been easier to adapt for a Naval requirement. I suppose the DRDO had its reasons to go with the french delta philosophy.. I just don't like it.
Yeah thats my dog.. Ginger rani
The Rafale's strike capability is much touted by the French, but in recent deployments for ISAF it had to rely on a mirage to lase the targets while it dropped. On the other hand the Gripen has made self lased drops already.
I agree the SH is a good choice, but all things considered, a single engined jet with similar capabilities and better maneuverability seems more appropriate
the LCA program can be kept happy too..(so can the SH)..
But probably the greatest advantage it has is its short field capbility, too many of the IAF's bases are currently close to the border, while it does allow for an easier reach and they may be well defended, I'm not what is the current status but most of IAF's current fleet apart from the Migs aren't too friendly with impromptu FOB's. Would it not be better, say in a scenario where the Indian forces manage to break deep into Chinese or Pakistani terribly to have an aircraft capable of flying from closer to the front lines??..with an 900m takeoff run.. the Gripen can carry a respectable CAS load, get to the target faster, get back faster and still be able to keep up with any expeditionary fighting force.
I have a personal dislike for the LCA which is not motivated by nationalism but rather by disappointment, I actually wished the LCA to look something like the S-56.. and would have looked much much nicer, flown much better..I suppose the DRDO had its reasons to go with the french delta philosophy.. I just don't like it.
would have been easier to adapt for a Naval requirement.
Yeah thats my dog.. Ginger rani
Santro ,
I missed that bold part , was it in the news/blogs . Love to hear more about it .
What I am aware of is that Damocles is not integrated on Rafale was reported by DID on 14 July .
France’s AASM Precision-Guided Bombs