Win Pak- India Nuke war ?

[Musafir117]

In the event of a nuclear war, how many nukes can be dropped, 10, 20, 50, before the entire World reacts and create a hole on the face of the Earth. Hence the question, how many is too many. These are not fighter jets or tanks where the count matters.

As I said I wish it's never happen, having N nukes not a thing we proud and the reasons of having it is another story.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

Unlike you, China does not have a suicidal nuclear policy.

Did you even read my post?

I said India will need to save 50% of its smaller nuclear arsenal (compared to Pakistan) in order to "deter" China from rolling down the Himalayas after the dust settles.

"Deter" being the key word here.

Pakistan on the other hand can dedicate 100% of its much larger nuclear arsenal towards India. They don't have to save half of it to deter another adversary from invading afterwards.

 

[SarthakGanguly]

Pak should dismantle the likes of JuD and LeT pronto and handover the likes of Lakhvi to India.

And give up on their tried and tested decades old policy? For what in return? Peace with India? How will that help Pakistan anyway? Think about it.

 

[nForce]

As I said I wish it's never happen, having N nukes not a thing we proud and the reasons of having it is another story.

better use the fissile material for power generation.

 

[FaujHistorian]

The signals & sounds coming from Pakistan are becoming increasingly similar to those from North Korea

Those with weapons & power do not make constant noise about possessing or using them.

Knowing what Modi and his goons are saying and doing in India.

The claim to fame of NK is squarely on Bharati Kim Ill (very Ill) Jungs.

Please use your head before setting up associations.

From our PM in Pakistan all the way to NSA have never threatened anyone in Bharat.
Any Bharati tourist or visitor gets warm welcome.

While Bharati leadership is howling like mad dogs.

Peace

It is an excellent article and makes complete sense. India and Pakistan really need to stop this rubbish. India should discuss all issues with Pak and Pak should dismantle the likes of JuD and LeT pronto and handover the likes of Lakhvi to India. Stop the war mongering.

Well said bhai jaan. Well said.

The only part in your post is obsolete as of June 2014 is about LeT goons.

LeT and all other Jaish forkers are being gunned down all over Pakistan. Heck send your team of lawyers over and our courts will hang Lakhvis.

you my dear do not realize how Pakistani sentiments have changed against religious AND secular fundoos and terrorists.

Quit living in 1980s.

 

[abbasniazi]

Nuclear exchanges can at best happen between a nation that nothing to lose & someone who is provoked beyond a point.

Thats exactly in Pakistan's case, taking your point further i'd say India is playing with fire, after approximately 1000 years of slavery the Hindus of India have got a chance to rule their own country and show the rest of the civilizations how progressive, peaceful and self sufficient they are when it comes to governing and ruling a country, i think they shouldn't miss this chance, if they do due to the likes of Modi, Ajit Doval and Bal Thakuray they may never be able to get this chance again in another 10,000 years atleast.

 

[graphican]

If 9/11 or a similar attack is instigated by state of Pakistan then cold start may make its case. If not then what justification would let India attack Pakistan under cold start but prevent Pakistan form not preparing for such a scenario? You can question should it be nuclear weapons that Pakistan use or perhaps not those but there is no difference of opinion that Pakistan must develop ability to prevent India from an invasion in the name of terrorist attempt.

 

[FaujHistorian]

Pak states that it will use tactical nukes against attacking columns.

Now, if it wants to nuke columns & India's nuclear arsenal along side then good luck to them & those who feel so. What shall be the tipping point when a nation goes Nuclear the full hog against conventional forces ? Can it ?

Next, no nation can annihilate another's arsenal in a first strike , at best it can hit command & control centers - for that there are countless options to back up.

As regards using nukes 50 -50 , after the ' dust settles' there are numerous options to contain the Chinese. Why would China attack unless provoked ? If it does then it gets the full monty from a number of sources.

China would not like to contaminate India with nuclear fallout as it would in turn make major cities full of nuclear fallout too. No, both India & China have separately gone down the development road too far to risk undoing it.

Nuclear exchanges can at best happen between a nation that nothing to lose & someone who is provoked beyond a point.

I think you missed the boat on this. Totally!

Bharati general threatened "cold start".

Pakistani generals responded with tactical toys.


I hate to see Pakistan always in "respond" mode to Bharati threats.

But that is the reality we have to live with.

If 9/11 or a similar attack is instigated by state of Pakistan then cold start may make its case.

"If"

All your argument is based on false assumption.

that sadly led you to false conclusion about cold start thingy. That is now deader than a door knob.

 

[chhota bheem]

I think you missed the boat on this. Totally!

Bharati general threatened "cold start".

Pakistani generals responded with tactical toys.


I hate to see Pakistan always in "respond" mode to Bharati threats.

But that is the reality we have to live with.



"If"

All your argument is based on false assumption.

that sadly led you to false conclusion about cold start thingy. That is now deader than a door knob.

Bhai jaan ,can you quote one source where a Indian general or someone in position threaten Pakistan with cold start or NW.if you cannot then its Pakistan which created a policy on tactical weapons based on "IF".

Did you even read my post?

I said India will need to save 50% of its smaller nuclear arsenal (compared to Pakistan) in order to "deter" China from rolling down the Himalayas after the dust settles.

"Deter" being the key word here.

Pakistan on the other hand can dedicate 100% of its much larger nuclear arsenal towards India. They don't have to save half of it to deter another adversary from invading afterwards.

If 50 cannot do the job trust me 100 too wont,its up to the Govt if it can take one hit in city which can wipeout a million people.

I dont see any sane govt will think a million of its peoples death is acceptable.even if you can wipe the other country after the hit.

 

[third eye]

Thats exactly in Pakistan's case, taking your point further i'd say India is playing with fire, after approximately 1000 years of slavery the Hindus of India have got a chance to rule their own country and show the rest of the civilizations how progressive, peaceful and self sufficient they are when it comes to governing and ruling a country, i think they shouldn't miss this chance, if they do due to the likes of Modi, Ajit Doval and Bal Thakuray they may never be able to get this chance again in another 10,000 years atleast.

Please dispel the thought form your mind that a nuke here or there will demolish a nation. If anything it will steel its resolve to grind the opponent to dust.

You make silly uneducated remarks about 1000 years in ' slavery'. Apply that in reverse - despite a few centuries of being in power AND having lost dynasties to poor administration and lack of vision Muslim nations barring a few have not yet been able to stabilize themselves and ' grow up'.

Pak & pak posters often make this mistake of hiding behind nukes - which they are prepared to use even within their own borders- this suits us quite well but wont help at all. This school boy approach of cutting your nose to spite your face has led it downwards & now instead of the brakes they choose the accelerator !

I think you missed the boat on this. Totally!

Bharati general threatened "cold start".

Pakistani generals responded with tactical toys.


I hate to see Pakistan always in "respond" mode to Bharati threats.

But that is the reality we have to live with.

Yes this is a reality - Pak is spending more & more upon its defence based on ' doctrines'. All this at the cost of education, health , infrastructure .

India has Pakistan where it wants.

 

[FaujHistorian]

Yes this is a reality - Pak is spending more & more upon its defence based on ' doctrines'. All this at the cost of education, health , infrastructure .

India has Pakistan where it wants.

So now you are boasting. Again!

Stand for something. One day you moan about Pakistan doing this or that

Next day you gassify the place by saying "we have Pakistan where want".

What kind of turdi logic is this?

Please avoid if you can. Thank you.

Please dispel the thought form your mind that a nuke here or there will demolish a nation. If anything it will steel its resolve to grind the opponent to dust.

Again!

Bollywood dialogues written by a poverty stricken paan eating worm.

Please do not quote such $hit here. This is after all Pakistani forum. Thank you.

Bhai jaan ,can you quote one source where a Indian general or someone in position threaten Pakistan with cold start

Please read Bharati military history from recent past.

Ignorance will not help.

Bhai jaan ,can you quote one source where a Indian general or someone in position threaten Pakistan with cold start .

chota bhai

On regular basis. Just read your COAS statements only from a month ago.

Or may be you don't follow them and hence such innocent questions.

Peace

 

[SQ8]

If there is a winner in a thermo nuclear exchange in the subcontinent, that person is possibly the most delusional optimist ever.

 

[abbasniazi]

You make silly uneducated remarks about 1000 years in ' slavery'. Apply that in reverse - despite a few centuries of being in power AND having lost dynasties to poor administration and lack of vision Muslim nations barring a few have not yet been able to stabilize themselves and ' grow up'.

Come on and please open up ur first two eyes as well in addition to your so called "Third Eye", i stand right when i say 1000 years of slavery about you, Islamic ideology started its message 1400 years ago and we have around 57-60 Islamic countries in the world with approximately 1.5 to 2 billion Muslims in 3 continents and u say its the reverse? its not hindus who have conquered Arabian peninsula, rather, its us Muslims who have carved Pakistan+Bangladesh(with ur help) on hindustani soil, if there have ever been a looser its the hindus of India...

 

[saiyan0321]

We use the nuclear war like rigging. Thrown around.. Let's say that due to any Mumbai like attack India does initiate cold start and crosses the border with a large army mobilized quickly and Pakistan's forces are overrun and have to retreat and Pakistan uses tactical nukes to halt India's advance which results in the annihilation of the forward frontier forces of India...

In a war more often than such a loss won't be accepted by India as it would look like a total defeat and they may in their hot temperature fire nuclear missiles... Pakistans nuclear arsenal is not as low grade and weak as many believe and if a war breaks out the missiles will be fully ready to be deployed and they will he deployed which will result in both sides using nuclear bombs.. Pakistan may clear out a huge vhubk of its arsenal that means that over a hundred cities wiped out and their neighbouring cities horribly effected and India may keep a few to deter China which means that about 50 cities wiped out with neighbouring cities effected..

The entire area will suffer over radiation and a nuclear winter without a doubt thus leading to nearly the annalation of the region of India and pakistan and the nuclear fall out will reach neighbouring countries as well. Governments and armies of both nations will be ended and any surviving cities in areas like gilgit, east Bengal, balochistan, far far south India may form their own small, struggling , refugee filled countries that will have no law and order and military rebel force like control and the nations will have poverty and hunger and disease... Death will plague the areas with nearly 1 billion dead.

The flags of pakistan and India will burn and there will be no nations called these and thus there will be no winner...

Only death disease and starvation .. Pakistan and India will not exist and history will remember two crazy nations who destroyed each other, plagued the region and rained death on thousands bcz they couldn't even sit in a room together...

After this the nuclear disarmament may pick up pace.

The meaning of nuclear war is this. May we never see such a dark day. The think tankers of both nations are well aware of this fact and thus I don't think there will be any war between the two nations.

 

[third eye]

Come on and please open up ur first two eyes as well in addition to your so called "Third Eye", i stand right when i say 1000 years of slavery about you, Islamic ideology started its message 1400 years ago and we have around 57-60 Islamic countries in the world with approximately 1.5 to 2 billion Muslims in 3 continents and u say its the reverse?

At the outset stop making personal remarks. Even for the likes of you it is unbecoming.

Who is ' we' ? Muslims nation s/ Since when did they become ' we'. As a community they cannot even decide when the moon is sighted so where is the ' we ' ? Now add Shia - Sunni divide , do you still see a ' we' ?

1000 years - 1400 years .. stop living in the past. The fact that there are ' 57 - 60 nations shows there is no ' we'. I could count any number of ' fragile' & ' dangerous ' muslim nations - how many Christian nations for instance can you count that fall in the category of Af , Somalia, Yemen, Sudan etc ? This itself says something for those who can discern.

its not hindus who have conquered Arabian peninsula, rather, its us Muslims who have carved Pakistan+Bangladesh(with ur help) on hindustani soil, if there have ever been a looser its the hindus of India...

If these silly arguments makes your boat sail - be my guest.

Again!

Bollywood dialogues written by a poverty stricken paan eating worm.

Please do not quote such $hit here. This is after all Pakistani forum. Thank you.

I could respond to your remark in red above but then it would being me down to your level - something I'd never do.

So what if its a Pak forum ?