Will US, India build THIS Gen Next missile together?

[Indianpatriot1]

Another nuclear test is out of question. Plus with the help of new technology and super computers it is now possible to simulate a test. The US does it with their nuclear arsenal and many other countries do it. Plus India is doing pretty well now that we don't have to worry about sanctions anymore that were put on us due to the last test.

India has tested only upto 45 KT. That is not enough for a credible nuclear deterrence against China for which we need at least 200 KT thermonuclear.

 

[HariPrasad]

The basic Issue is US is going to loose its economical superpower status shortly. They will not be able to fund all its futuristic costly R & D projects. R & D in US is very costly. So they are very much in need of some partner having a strong well educated manpower having R & D capabilities. India fits into their requirement more than anybody else. That is why there are lots of US companies are coming to India and open their R & D centers in IT domestic goods and Electronic hardware. Now US government wants to replicate the model of what US's companies have done in India.
If US has to retain its dominance as the Super power, It can not retain without the help of India.

US' decision to enter into joint development with India is nothing but the extension of its policy and requirement.

India can make wonders and add value to US weapons like we did in case of Yakhont. How potent Yakhont was transformed into a super weapon with convergence Indian and Russian technology and made a success story. We can hope the same in case of US and India partnership.

 

[BLING]

We will Co produce but wont Co Develope any new tech ! ! ! As of now

 

[faithfulguy]

The basic Issue is US is going to loose its economical superpower status shortly. They will not be able to fund all its futuristic costly R & D projects. R & D in US is very costly. So they are very much in need of some partner having a strong well educated manpower having R & D capabilities. India fits into their requirement more than anybody else. That is why there are lots of US companies are coming to India and open their R & D centers in IT domestic goods and Electronic hardware. Now US government wants to replicate the model of what US's companies have done in India.
If US has to retain its dominance as the Super power, It can not retain without the help of India.

US' decision to enter into joint development with India is nothing but the extension of its policy and requirement.

India can make wonders and add value to US weapons like we did in case of Yakhont. How potent Yakhont was transformed into a super weapon with convergence Indian and Russian technology and made a success story. We can hope the same in case of US and India partnership.

Bull crap. So US economy will suffer without Indian assistance? You must be the guy that made the India 2030 superpower video. US companies are trying to make more money from India, just like what the Russians and French are doing. The only way India can become strategic partners with US is to become an ally like Britain and Japan.

 

[Indianpatriot1]

Bull crap. So US economy will suffer without Indian assistance? You must be the guy that made the India 2030 superpower video. US companies are trying to make more money from India, just like what the Russians and French are doing. The only way India can become strategic partners with US is to become an ally like Britain and Japan.

He is right in a way. Armaments is the only "real" industry left in the US and India is a big buyer.

 

[Indo-guy]

The basic Issue is US is going to loose its economical superpower status shortly. They will not be able to fund all its futuristic costly R & D projects. R & D in US is very costly. So they are very much in need of some partner having a strong well educated manpower having R & D capabilities. India fits into their requirement more than anybody else. That is why there are lots of US companies are coming to India and open their R & D centers in IT domestic goods and Electronic hardware. Now US government wants to replicate the model of what US's companies have done in India.
If US has to retain its dominance as the Super power, It can not retain without the help of India.

US' decision to enter into joint development with India is nothing but the extension of its policy and requirement.

India can make wonders and add value to US weapons like we did in case of Yakhont. How potent Yakhont was transformed into a super weapon with convergence Indian and Russian technology and made a success story. We can hope the same in case of US and India partnership.

There is serious flaw in this line of thought . Truth is that US will remain economical superpower for forseeable time !
Even if China manages to catch up with US in next few decades it will not be able to surpass US .....so both will remain in very tight race to break ahead of each other ....Both will remain number 1 for a very long time ....before one of them starts lagging behind .....

US is 14 trillion dollar economy ....14 times bigger than India's economy . does anybody really think that US is propping up these co-development projects because it is facing funds crunch ? I seriously doubt this line of reasoning .
Only objective of such initiative could be to solidify Indo-Us strategic relationship .

Truth is that US needs India on its side to achieve balance of powers in Asia pacific region ! Only India can possibly will be able to neutralize Chinese influence in region to some extent ....
US has been trying hard to forge US backed Indo -Japanese -Australian alliance ( something which didn't materialize because Australia backed off and India was not interested....)

The greater and greater entanglement of Indo-US relationship is by all means is directed at China's eminence !

There can't be any other reason why US should stoop low to a country like India which is essentially developing country ( although big potential ) .

off course everything that US does has fiscal aspect ....even as they befriend with somebody ...usually it is kind of trade !


I believe only reason US is showing so great interest in India is because they realize their position being seriously challenged by China !
They need heavy counterweight to China ...and there can't be better country than India under current circumstances !

India needs to be cautious not to get caught in the coming 'cold war' between US and China even though it will be forced to side with US !!!

 

[prandtl]

well offer has come from US !!!


Ball is in our court ....


I believe India-US can move from circumspect buyer - Untrusting Seller relationship to more mature defense ties...


Frankly speaking we hardly rank anywhere near US in terms of technology , expertise yet we have some strengths ....which US can utilize in co-development projects ....

it will kill NAG missile, at least the MAN port version.

 

[agni 6]

Bull crap. So US economy will suffer without Indian assistance? You must be the guy that made the India 2030 superpower video. US companies are trying to make more money from India, just like what the Russians and French are doing. The only way India can become strategic partners with US is to become an ally like Britain and Japan.

Sorry as I have pointed before no non white country is their ally.Since world war 2 Japan is Americas slave as
every non white is or will become if it tries to befriend America.They have military bases all around in Japan and
use it as a proxy against China.Ask any Chinese if I am Wrong .The tragedy is that we are itching to become their
poodle instead of just avoiding them.We should neither befriend them nor make enemies of them.Just ask them to
leave us alone till we are equals.Till then Russia/France are better bets.

 

[agni 6]

Another nuclear test is out of question. Plus with the help of new technology and super computers it is now possible to simulate a test. The US does it with their nuclear arsenal and many other countries do it. Plus India is doing pretty well now that we don't have to worry about sanctions anymore that were put on us due to the last test.

If supercomputers were the answer to testing then we would have all weapons made indigenously on supercomputers whether
missiles, tanks, planes etc.They are certainly not foolproof.This is plain hogwash.No country is going to be deterred by simulated warheads. As an example America has conducted 1054 tests, SU/Russia more than 715,UK 45,France 210, china 45
and India 6 from open source material.WE do need at least 20 more tests to be a credible deterrent.
As far as sanctions go we were wise enough not be critically dependent on America like last time.Once bitten twice shy.

 

[HariPrasad]

Bull crap. So US economy will suffer without Indian assistance? You must be the guy that made the India 2030 superpower video. US companies are trying to make more money from India, just like what the Russians and French are doing. The only way India can become strategic partners with US is to become an ally like Britain and Japan.

You exposed your BS comprehension once again. I am not surprised.

 

[faithfulguy]

You exposed your BS comprehension once again. I am not surprised.

What I say is true. US do not need Indian help to keep its economy up.

 

[President]

Bull crap. So US economy will suffer without Indian assistance? You must be the guy that made the India 2030 superpower video. US companies are trying to make more money from India, just like what the Russians and French are doing. The only way India can become strategic partners with US is to become an ally like Britain and Japan.

Agreed!..........

 

[HariPrasad]

There is serious flaw in this line of thought . Truth is that US will remain economical superpower for forseeable time !
Even if China manages to catch up with US in next few decades it will not be able to surpass US .....so both will remain in very tight race to break ahead of each other ....Both will remain number 1 for a very long time ....before one of them starts lagging behind .....

US is 14 trillion dollar economy ....14 times bigger than India's economy . does anybody really think that US is propping up these co-development projects because it is facing funds crunch ? I seriously doubt this line of reasoning .
Only objective of such initiative could be to solidify Indo-Us strategic relationship .

Truth is that US needs India on its side to achieve balance of powers in Asia pacific region ! Only India can possibly will be able to neutralize Chinese influence in region to some extent ....
US has been trying hard to forge US backed Indo -Japanese -Australian alliance ( something which didn't materialize because Australia backed off and India was not interested....)

The greater and greater entanglement of Indo-US relationship is by all means is directed at China's eminence !

There can't be any other reason why US should stoop low to a country like India which is essentially developing country ( although big potential ) .

off course everything that US does has fiscal aspect ....even as they befriend with somebody ...usually it is kind of trade !


I believe only reason US is showing so great interest in India is because they realize their position being seriously challenged by China !
They need heavy counterweight to China ...and there can't be better country than India under current circumstances !

India needs to be cautious not to get caught in the coming 'cold war' between US and China even though it will be forced to side with US !!!

You may be partially right.

Do you know US cancelled its Air force exercise with other country last year because of fund problem?

US budget used to be the surplus budget all the time in past which is not at present. Many new powers are emerging which challenges US every now and than. It is not only China but Iran, Syria, North Korea etc. Still US' is Economy Number 1 but US' current financial position is not as strong as it used to in past. Now US can not spend $100 in r&D of some product which can be done some where else in $1. With Highly educated masses in India, R&D cost of many product may come down drastically. Take for the example BMD of India, Mars mission. If US do that on its own, It will cost at least 10 to 100 times. If US can put its Instrument on Chandrayan and discover water for 2 to 5 million Dollar why US will spend $100 mn on that? Counter weighing China is of course one aspect but, US is also going to be benefited from it a lot like they are benefited from the partnership with Israel. US Indian partnership can generate a lots of synergy where 1+1=5.

So far as China is concern, we have lived together for thousands of years. But now the China is not same. It wants to dominate whole world. That domination will not be a civilized like US' domination. They want to see an India like Banana republic which we can not accept. We have the potential to surpass China in all aspects but our weakest point is our corrupt political system. If a person like Modi can remain prime minister for 20 years, I am sure that we can surpass China in each and every field.

Take an example of Mobile phone. Almost all the phones used are of some outside company. Now can't we produce the mobile phone of our own? But corrupt congress have made such a policy that Imported phones will be cheaper that the Phone produced in India. We have full potential to be the Hub of Automobiles, Electronics and R&D but that need a politician like Modi.

 

[joekrish]

What I say is true. US do not need Inian help to keep its economy up.

US needs a lot more India's to keep it's economy up and running as of today.

 

[faithfulguy]

US needs a lot more India's to keep it's economy up and running as of today.

Why would US need India's help when India economy has all these problems. What India need is strategic partnership with the US. Also, India should be grateful for the US offer and pay back some how.