Will the US provide Tomahawk cruise missile to Vietnam?

[Oldman1]

thats not even the point my friend...

And your point is what? If China attacks Vietnam, U.S. go help Vietnam.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

And your point is what? If China attacks Vietnam, U.S. go help Vietnam.

I was talking abt usa giving vietnam tomahawks you kook.

 

[Oldman1]

No. The U.S. was China's boss at that time. When China was in operation in the south border, the U.S. helped China to look at the north border. USSR had military pact with Vietnam at that time and they deployed millions of troops along China's north border.

Intelligence provided by U.S. satellite is very accurate. Thank you, America!

You're welcome.

I was talking abt usa giving vietnam tomahawks you kook.

And the U.S. will provide Vietnam support if China invades Vietnam or take more of the islands. Just the recent events started a frenzy by the Vietnamese against the Chinese. So like I said, you never know what could happen.

 

[andy_hujian]

that

And your point is what? If China attacks Vietnam, U.S. go help Vietnam.

Helping a communism country? I remember one of the famous remarks of President Obama is anti-communism when he took office a few years ago.

The U.S. always sells her value and democracy to the world. Helping Vitename will cause the leader to step down.

 

[Oldman1]

Helping a communism country? I remember one of the famous remarks of President Obama is anti-communism when he took office a few years ago.

The U.S. always sells her value and democracy to the world. Helping Vitename will cause the leader to step down.

And people say we help Islamic terrorists. And as you pointed out we helped China against Vietnam. If I remember correctly China is still a Communist country.

 

[andy_hujian]

You're welcome.



And the U.S. will provide Vietnam support if China invades Vietnam or take more of the islands. Just the recent events started a frenzy by the Vietnamese against the Chinese. So like I said, you never know what could happen.

I'm not arguing with you my friend. The world is complex. Playing with two communist countries at the same time is not that easy. The tie between Vietnam and China is strong, although they fight from time to time.

I still remember some guy's remarks about Viet-China relation.

"Staying to close to China, you lose the country; Staying to close to the U.S, you lose the party." So make your pick.

 

[sms]

It is just speculation. But I sense the US senator McCain wants to help helpless Vietnam with a mighty toy. I think it is a very good move as it saves jobs at Raytheon as well. Win-win relationship. During his recent visit to Vietnam, he was handed over a "wish list", perhaps Tomahawk was on the list.

such a beautiful rocket

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McCain promises continued support for Tomahawk and A-10


August 20, 2014 12:00 am • By Joe Ferguson

An 18-foot Tomahawk cruise missile shared the stage with Senator John McCain here on Tuesday as he addressed a room full of Raytheon Missile Systems employees.

The state’s senior senator did all of the talking, but the three-decade old missile was the main attraction, with McCain saying he was able to help reverse a Department of Defense decision to cut $82 million in funding for more missiles.

The decision to cut funding to the aging missile — with a replacement nowhere in sight for at least a decade — was shortsighted, McCain said, noting it was easy to convince his Senate colleagues to restore funding.

The six-term senator said he expects officials to try again next year.

“I hope we don’t have to keep this up year over year,” McCain said.

Amid tough language about serious threats to global security and an absence of leadership on the world stage from the Obama administration, McCain offered bits of good news for the local aerospace industry.

They included:

• Hundreds of millions of dollars committed for Raytheon and the Israeli-owned Rafael Advanced Defense Systems to jointly produce the Iron Dome system
• His firm support for a modernization program for the Tomahawk missile system, extending the useful life of the cruise missile
• Progress on a complicated, multiparty land swap near the Tucson International Airport that would allow Raytheon to expand
• Raytheon, he said, was also a finalist for a major defense contract with the Polish government
• Continued support to save the A-10 from being mothballed, saying the Pentagon is “nuts” for trying to save money by replacing it with the F-35
• McCain also said he was working on modifying an arms embargo with Vietnam, which could pave the way for the sale of missiles for maritime defense in the South China Seas.

Detailing his recent travels, McCain said the United States has largely abdicated responsibility when it comes to global terrorism threats.

“The world is probably in more turmoil than it has been in any time in my lifetime,” the 77-year-old said. “Literally all over the world, except in our hemisphere we have this rise of radical Islamic extremism.”

He reiterated his call for significant use of air strikes in both Iraq and Syria, saying ISIS has essentially erased the border between the two countries in its attempt to establish a sovereign state.

The sheer size of the area controlled by ISIS is now larger than the state of Indiana, McCain said.

McCain said it would be a mistake to ignore the growing crisis, telling the crowd that ISIS leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi threatened to attack New York after being released from an Iraqi jail.

The senator touched on long-term water supply issues and wildfire threats as top issues for Arizona, but did not mention illegal immigration in his 45-minute town hall at Raytheon.

Talking to reporters later, however, McCain said he wants to change federal immigration policy so that any illegal immigrants would be immediately flown back to their home county in Central America.

He said the United States would be better served if it built more embassies in Latin America for those seeking political asylum.

The federal government, he said, also has the ability to better secure the border, but lacks the political will to put resources into technological solutions.

McCain said that with advanced military radar systems used overseas, coupled with drones and watchtowers, the border could largely be secured.

Asked about the riots in Ferguson, Missouri, McCain said he would scale back the program that has allowed local law enforcement to purchase obsolete military equipment.

“I think that when police departments or law enforcement probably gets equipment almost for free, they may take stuff they may not necessarily need,” McCain said.

He said he might scale back the federal program, but said giving excess military equipment to law enforcement makes sense in certain cases.

McCain said the riots in Ferguson aren’t about the militarization of the police force, but the unexplained killing of an African-American teen that sparked the crisis.

Contact reporter Joe Ferguson at jferguson@azstarnet.com or 573-4346. Follow him on Twitter @JoeFerguson

Won't Happen, USA is not allowed to sell/ Transfer missiles with range more than 300KM, unless they can spin out Infentahawk from Tomahawak.

 

[andy_hujian]

And people say we help Islamic terrorists. And as you pointed out we helped China against Vietnam. If I remember correctly China is still a Communist country.

It depends on what support you meant in your previous posts. I don't think the U.S. will send troops.

 

[Oldman1]

I'm not arguing with you my friend. The world is complex. Playing with two communist countries at the same time is not that easy. The tie between Vietnam and China is strong, although they fight from time to time.

I still remember some guy's remarks about Viet-China relation.

"Staying to close to China, you lose the country; Staying to close to the U.S, you lose the party." So make your pick.

Indeed, so you pretty much answered your own question on U.S. backing Vietnam as well as Vietnam willing to work with the U.S.

It depends on what support you meant in your previous posts. I don't think the U.S. will send troops.

We have the U.S. Navy and Air Force. As you have seen in Iraq currently how they are supporting the Iraqi forces as well as the Kurds without any massive American forces involved.

 

[andy_hujian]

Indeed, so you pretty much answered your own question on U.S. backing Vietnam as well as Vietnam willing to work with the U.S.

The reality is that how deep Vietnam leaders cooperate with the U.S. As I pointed in other posts, political opponents will criticize current leaders for being too close to the U.S. Vietnam communism party have many high ranked leaders who are close to China. And China will sponsor those people in different ways. In the end, Vietnam suffer, the U.S. laugh and China lose nothing.

Indeed, so you pretty much answered your own question on U.S. backing Vietnam as well as Vietnam willing to work with the U.S.



We have the U.S. Navy and Air Force. As you have seen in Iraq currently how they are supporting the Iraqi forces as well as the Kurds without any massive American forces involved.

I don't even think the U.S. will send any weaponized ships or aircrafts.
The U.S. and China have been very very very cautious for the last 60 years after Korean war. Plus, after ww2, no countries with nuclear weapons have face-to-face war. Do you think the U.S. wants to do that?

 

[Oldman1]

The reality is that how deep Vietnam leaders cooperate with the U.S. As I pointed in other posts, political opponents will criticize current leaders for being too close to the U.S. Vietnam communism party have many high ranked leaders who are close to China. And China will sponsor those people in different ways. In the end, Vietnam suffer, the U.S. laugh and China lose nothing.



I don't even think the U.S. will send any weaponized ships or aircrafts.
The U.S. and China have been very very very cautious for the last 60 years after Korean war. Plus, after ww2, no countries with nuclear weapons have face-to-face war. Do you think the U.S. wants to do that?

Pretty much every country has people with different views. Depends on who has the power and are able to enforce that will. Same for Vietnam. Remember that in the Philippines there were opposition to American forces on their territory, and now you saw what is happening as of right now.

Indeed, thats whats keeping China from taking over the Senkaku Islands.

 

[BoQ77]

Almost newly developed weapons of China aiming to USA. That's the motivation for USA to push back.

 

[tonyget]

And the U.S. will provide Vietnam support if China invades Vietnam or take more of the islands. Just the recent events started a frenzy by the Vietnamese against the Chinese. So like I said, you never know what could happen.

Tell you what, if Vietnam attack SCS shipping route or manufacturing base in Guangdong, the US will stand on China's side, Because that hurts US economy as much as that does China.

 

[andy_hujian]

I don't even think the U.S. will send any weaponized ships or aircrafts.

Pretty much every country has people with different views. Depends on who has the power and are able to enforce that will. Same for Vietnam. Remember that in the Philippines there were opposition to American forces on their territory, and now you saw what is happening as of right now.

Indeed, thats whats keeping China from taking over the Senkaku Islands.

In a communist countries, the opponency can be very strong because of long time, high pressure and single party dictatorship. People ask for democracy. A small incident can lead to revolution. This is different from the two party system of the U.S, where it's pretty much the same whoever take office.

Chinese ships are circling the islands everyday my friend. And the U.S. doesnt shoot a single bullet.

Almost newly developed weapons of China aiming to USA. That's the motivation for USA to push back.

I understand the concern. However, staying in middle of the U.S. and China is dangerous. The U.S. sells her values and democracy when she supports a country. I don't know how much CVP can accept that. You should know it better since you live there.

 

[C130]

The Tomahawk is launched from the Mk 41 VLS.

Does Vietnam have a launch platform capable of carrying the Tomahawk to begin with?

it's possible to launch a Tomahawk from a ground vehicle
BGM-109G Ground Launched Cruise Missile - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

but it was for nuclear deterrence.

and i don't think U.S would sell or let Vietnam build Tomahawks, because of MTCR and it would give China a excuse to sell the same type of missiles to Cuba and Venezuela.