Will Manmohan Singh deliver on demilitarization after Gen. Singh?

[The HBS Guy]

Here's something for you guys to ponder about. Now relax and go to sleep. The country is in safe hands.

Siachen talks in June, don't expect dramatic results: India

NEW DELHI: India today made it clear that it would insist on proper authentication by Pakistan of the troop positions in Siachen before any disengagement is undertaken and cautioned against expecting any "dramatic" result from the next round of talks in June on the vexed issue.

Defence minister A K Antony asserted in the Rajya Sabha that India stood by its stand on authentication and had neither hardened or softened the position.


"Some people have said we are hardening our position (on Siachen), some say we have softened the position. We have neither hardened nor softened our position. We are standing where we were," he said, replying to a debate on the functioning of the defence ministry.

While informing the House that the 13th round of Defence Secretary-level talks on Siachen will take place in the second week of next month, Antony said during the last round Pakistan had refused to authenticate the troop positions of the two countries but India insisted on it.

"Don't expect dramatic results (from the next round of talks. It is a complicated issue," he said.

Making it clear that India was keen on authentication and had "not changed the position", he said, "it is the national position, not government position. We took the position after considered decision."

Siachen, the world's highest militarised zone, has been a long-pending dispute between India and Pakistan as the border is not clearly demarcated in the glaciated region.

http://articles.timesofindia.indiat...ilitarised-zone-defence-secretary-level-talks

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That was our Defence Minister on the floor of the parliament.

 

[Pakistanisage]

Traitor and a faggot. There was once an article in TOIlet that MMS is a closet fag, making inferences based on the way he acts, walks & talks.

That is a very harsh and rude comment.

Are you sure he deserves this kind of vitriolic attack.

 

[Inqhilab]

No one alive today can claim a greater positive influence over 21st-century India than Dr Manmohan Singh.
So before starting thread with this kind of title about Dr. Manmohan Singh u should know that you are talking about the politician who has been at so many money making jobs (before Fm and Pm) still his only car parked in PM house is MARUTI 800, A politician who took a loan of 2lac for election champain in 1999 because he didn't had that much money .

 

[R-DB]

No one alive today can claim a greater positive influence over 21st-century India than Dr Manmohan Singh.
So before starting thread with this kind of title about Dr. Manmohan Singh u should know that you are talking about the politician who has been at so many money making jobs (before Fm and Pm) still his only car parked in PM house is MARUTI 800, A politician who took a loan of 2lac for election champain in 1999 because he didn't had that much money .

HE is still lying on..

2G scam
CWG scam

kalmadis,A Rajas,Kanimozhis who are gem of this govt have worked under the leadership of Mr manmohan singh.

Biggest blunder...

He gave a signed letter in front of whole india that he will bring LOKPAL but he gave shitt to ppl of country.
After all this if you like Maruti 800 then god bless you dear.

i have a lot to write but its enough

 

[harpoon]

Ahhhh MMS, our soft spoken PM sometimes i hate him and sometimes I dont. We are indebted to him as an FM. If today me and you are chatting away happily in PDF its partly because of him.

He was just the PM. The majority of the credit goes to Narasimha Rao, but sadly even Congressis don't want to remember him.

No one alive today can claim a greater positive influence over 21st-century India than Dr Manmohan Singh.
So before starting thread with this kind of title about Dr. Manmohan Singh u should know that you are talking about the politician who has been at so many money making jobs (before Fm and Pm) still his only car parked in PM house is MARUTI 800, A politician who took a loan of 2lac for election champain in 1999 because he didn't had that much money .

Individual honesty counts for nothing when you head the most corrupt Indian govt to date.

 

[Marxist]

No one alive today can claim a greater positive influence over 21st-century India than Dr Manmohan Singh.
So before starting thread with this kind of title about Dr. Manmohan Singh u should know that you are talking about the politician who has been at so many money making jobs (before Fm and Pm) still his only car parked in PM house is MARUTI 800, A politician who took a loan of 2lac for election champain in 1999 because he didn't had that much money .

he held lot of positions that earns tons of money as salary .....all things u say are just propaganda

 

[IndoUS]

The Prime Minister, is a good man, the only problem is, that he is too good and easily manipulated by the Congress head. He is too easy to control, he needs to stand up and stop taking orders from others.

 

[Koovie]

The Indian army has been very clear – from Gen VK Singh downwards – that an advantage obtained with so much sacrifice of men and material cannot simply be gifted away through so-called “demilitarisation” for no advantage at all.

However, the weak link in the Indian position is the Prime Minister himself, who seems to be scrounging around for a diplomatic victory to pull off when his reputation is otherwise in tatters.

According to a report in India Today, as early as June 2005, the PM told soldiers at the Siachen base camp: “Siachen is called the highest battlefield, where living is very difficult. Now the time has come that we make efforts that this is converted from a point of conflict to the symbol of peace.”

But the magazine also notes that Siachen is what the PM may be willing to sacrifice for personal achievement. “Demilitarisation is his CBM (confidence building measure) offer to Pakistan. Cynics suggest that he, too, has become a victim of the Nobel Peace Prize syndrome, trapped by the desire of temporary personal applause at the cost of national interests. It is his ticket to history.”

Siachen: Pak banks on PM to deliver after Gen Singh’s exit | Firstpost

At lest he is not paying taxes to another country

 

[arp2041]

PA Sangma (presidential hopeful) - "spirit of constitution is that the PM should be from lower house/lok sabha"

god knows i agree with him

 

[Nair saab]

After 2014 Election he Should be Handed over to Sikhs let them Give MMS the Treatment for Spoiling the Name of Sikhs ...

Bharat have Seen Many Brave Sikhs in its History He Surely will be the First Sikhs to Compromise the Motherland for his string Controllers ...

 

[deckingraj]

he held lot of positions that earns tons of money as salary .....all things u say are just propaganda

Tons of money as salary...hmmm but you know that a salary class is always hand to mouth..As far as Maruti 800 is concerned then he is a modest man...Anyhow why are we even discussing that he is an honest and clean man..that is a fact..period..

 

[Abingdonboy]

Trying to create a lasting peace make this man a traitor??!! The IA needs to remember they serve at the will of their political masters and they cannot keep stepping out of line and publicizing their views. They can write a report and submit it for consideration to the GoI that is ALL. MMS is a wise man, he seems to genuinely want peace and has taken some steps to try and make it happen but he isn't going to risk national security to do it. Some ignorant fools will make such statements about not making and concessions and the like but these same fools proboly wanted to see nukes used post-26/11. Wikileaks has shown GoP respects MMS and appreciates he wants genuine peace in the region. You can't attack a guy for trying to do right by his country and people.


And AFAIK MMS has not made ANY public declaration that he will demilitarize Siachin or abandon posts. Biased people are jumping the gun and trying to make political capital.

 

[KS]

MMS saab is a puppet and he can do nothing without mem-saab and yuvraaj giving the go ahead. So no worries.

Re, economic policies and he being the ultra brilliant, sooper dooper brain, we all have seen the reality on ground. 'nuff said.

 

[saiyan0321]

ummm ok many indians over here apparently dont want to give peace a chance...... so what if he wants to have better relations with pakistan better relations does not mean siachin will be given to anyone. incidents are forcing both parties to sit down and talk of peace. i dont think you all will like to hear this but we cant fight forever so what doe we do? a peace treaty. simple either have siachin return back to the position it was in or solve this issue with sir creek issue. ofcourse this will insure peace and will also tell the international lobby that these two can agree upon something however what i wrote was a perception of how things will be done if they are done bcz its always give something take something deal....... anyway whereas better relations go then i agree with MMS as i woulkd agree with our govt that better relations should be made with trade slowly and slowly as these small steps will help us insure peace....... bcz face it we are sooo not the only rivals that kissed and made upPP

MMS saab is a puppet and he can do nothing without mem-saab and yuvraaj giving the go ahead. So no worries.

Re, economic policies and he being the ultra brilliant, sooper dooper brain, we all have seen the reality on ground. 'nuff said.

Source: http://www.defence.pk/forums/indian...worst-ever-traitor-india-2.html#ixzz1w04xJh2v

he is ur prime minister like we hate ours i am sure he must have gives you people reasons to hate

 

[harpoon]

Tons of money as salary...hmmm but you know that a salary class is always hand to mouth..As far as Maruti 800 is concerned then he is a modest man...Anyhow why are we even discussing that he is an honest and clean man..that is a fact..period..

He was elite among the salaried class. For God sake he was even the Governor of RBI and deputy chairman of planning commission . Inspite of all this if only he can only buy a Maruti 800, it shows his poor money managing skills.