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its easy we just have to follow teachings of Prophet (SAW) and our society ie Islamic workd will get better we strayed from our path! you guys can label me right wing idiot but i dont blame you we Muslims failed to present the true picture of Islam to the world we strayed from path became greedy our leaders became tools our society collapased and then from this mess emerged Qaeda Isis and that became face of Islam!

as for jews they are enemies not just of Islam but of Mankind;

If following the Sunnah of our beloved Prophet Muhammad Sallallaho Alaihi Wassallam was so easy, then today we wouldn't find people advocating for relationship with terrorist zionist israel.

Also, not all Jews are bad people. There are Jews out there who denounce the creation of the state of israel as an abomination. Most that occupy Palestine are Khazar, who converted to Judaism in the 9th Century AD. It is these Khazar Jews who dominate the population of Jews today. Semite Jews, the real ethnic Hebrews, are few and have no voice at all.

It is important for Muslims to know that Zionist pose as both Jews and Christians yet have allegiance to neither faith, nor The One God, the only, the absolute power, Allah Subhanahu Wata'aalah. Zionists had infiltrated the Christian and Jewish faiths long ago and Europe was there breeding ground. It is the Zionist movement that behind the French Revolution, the Bolshevik Revolution, American War of Independence, Britain being usurped post Battle of Waterloo against Nepoleon.

So for Muslims, my advice is to seek out knowledge with the Qur'an being your guiding light. For knowledge comes from Allah and Allah alone.

look in mirror first. everything for you is a conspiracy. wake up an read and learn first.

cheers. come here and have a drink.

You are reading a lot of salafist/neonazi works for sure. We can say the same thing about radical elements like yourself who have a narrow view too. Yet, i know not all moslems are imbiciles like you. You give a bad name for moslems and likewise a stench to good moslems across the world.

Buddy you wouldn't be able to tell a good Muslim from a bad one even if one dropped on your head. Salafists, Wahhabis are illiterate fools who have no idea what is happening today. Those idiots are Zionist's pet dogs, nothing more. As for conspiracies, I suggest you go educate yourself about the history of Zionism. Dismissive attitude is proof how uninformed you really are and how brainwashed you actually are.
 
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If Pakistan wants relations with the illegal, illegitimate, terrorist Zionist State of israel. Then Pakistan may as well turn its back on Islam and cross off the "Islamic Republic" part in it's title. You cannot be a Muslim, and also advocate building relationship with the Zionist State. Having relationship with israel, even the basic form is like drinking milk that has a drop of urine in it. And if you think that befriending israel, or recognizing it, or buying weapons from is something purely strategic and has no consequences that would affect Pakistan. Then look at Syria, Jordan, Egypt, Saudi and others that have done so. They are no longer states which can exercize their own free will, as they are ruled by Zionist pet dogs. Those who advocate relations with the terrorist Zionist State of israel, are either in league with the Zionists, or think they know better how to interact with Zionism.

Zionist are a "Parasitic Cancer" that usurped Europe and consequently the rest of the Western Civilization. They are not a people that Muslims should ever be allies with. The misguided fools that are the Saudis, have zero intellectual capacity in being able to identify Zionism as the enemy of humanity, as well as Islam.

So go ahead, argue all you want, this is one battle you would not win, because if you do, you are no longer in the Ummah of Nabi Muhammad Alaihi Salaat-u-Wassalam.

I challenge you to argue your case, this is a subject on which I will defend my country, ruthlessly and unrelentingly.

Best post in this thread so far. You really hit all the important points.

Do we want to be an independent Muslim nation, or do we want to fall again into Western servitude?

haha yeh .an we are the biggest hurdle to the peace not the occupiers murdering women and childern not the occupiers bulldozing ready to harvwsy olive trees just because they can not the occupiers controlling supply of water electeicity and medicines not the occupiers who bulldoze homes and build villas on them!!

occupiers are the cutest aint they!

Adorbs! :rofl:

What Israeli government is doing with Palestinians is unacceptable nor am I supporting that but that has nothing to do with our relationship with Israel. If Arabs have accepted it, its about time we get over this self righteous attitude of ours. Besides that Palestinian Leadership time and time again demonstrated that they necessarily dont support Pakistan, so stop being the thekaydar of ummah non-sense.

These are two different issues which should be separated from each other.

Suffering backstabbing, treacherous Arab regimes doesn’t mean we should become like them. They have turned their back on their beautiful history and have allowed their wealth to corrupt them.

They have put in their lot with the West, Israel, and India against Turkey, Iran, and us.

Israel’s origin is a sin, and it’s continued existence is an even bigger sin.

We should be on the same page as Iran is about Israel, come what may.

I suggest you read my post again, Saudi regime is in bed with the Zionists, Egypt, Syria, Jordan, Emirates, Kuwait and Qatar pay lip service to the Muslim world to keep themselves from being toppled. In Libya Qaddafi was toppled by Zionist West (America, Britain & France). Zionists are the ones who manipulate, control and impose their will on these puppet Muslim States through the Western nations they own, which are America, Britain, France, Netherlands, Australia, Canada and etc.



Bullshit ... society would not become better when Zionist West impose regime changes in other countries as if they own the world. You are so drenched in Zionist stench, you can't tell your left from your right.

Exactly. Slaves don’t have any choice but to obey their masters.

With Egypt gifting Israel free oil, Palestinians killing each other for Israel’s security and approval, KSA opening up to Israel to please US, and UAE outdoing everyone else in serfdom to the Zionist regime.

If following the Sunnah of our beloved Prophet Muhammad Sallallaho Alaihi Wassallam was so easy, then today we wouldn't find people advocating for relationship with terrorist zionist israel.

Also, not all Jews are bad people. There are Jews out there who denounce the creation of the state of israel as an abomination. Most that occupy Palestine are Khazar, who converted to Judaism in the 9th Century AD. It is these Khazar Jews who dominate the population of Jews today. Semite Jews, the real ethnic Hebrews, are few and have no voice at all.

It is important for Muslims to know that Zionist pose as both Jews and Christians yet have allegiance to neither faith, nor The One God, the only, the absolute power, Allah Subhanahu Wata'aalah. Zionists had infiltrated the Christian and Jewish faiths long ago and Europe was there breeding ground. It is the Zionist movement that behind the French Revolution, the Bolshevik Revolution, American War of Independence, Britain being usurped post Battle of Waterloo against Nepoleon.

So for Muslims, my advice is to seek out knowledge with the Qur'an being your guiding light. For knowledge comes from Allah and Allah alone.



Buddy you wouldn't be able to tell a good Muslim from a bad one even if one dropped on your head. Salafists, Wahhabis are illiterate fools who have no idea what is happening today. Those idiots are Zionist's pet dogs, nothing more. As for conspiracies, I suggest you go educate yourself about the history of Zionism. Dismissive attitude is proof how uninformed you really are and how brainwashed you actually are.

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If following the Sunnah of our beloved Prophet Muhammad Sallallaho Alaihi Wassallam was so easy, then today we wouldn't find people advocating for relationship with terrorist zionist israel.

Also, not all Jews are bad people. There are Jews out there who denounce the creation of the state of israel as an abomination. Most that occupy Palestine are Khazar, who converted to Judaism in the 9th Century AD. It is these Khazar Jews who dominate the population of Jews today. Semite Jews, the real ethnic Hebrews, are few and have no voice at all.

It is important for Muslims to know that Zionist pose as both Jews and Christians yet have allegiance to neither faith, nor The One God, the only, the absolute power, Allah Subhanahu Wata'aalah. Zionists had infiltrated the Christian and Jewish faiths long ago and Europe was there breeding ground. It is the Zionist movement that behind the French Revolution, the Bolshevik Revolution, American War of Independence, Britain being usurped post Battle of Waterloo against Nepoleon.

So for Muslims, my advice is to seek out knowledge with the Qur'an being your guiding light. For knowledge comes from Allah and Allah alone.



Buddy you wouldn't be able to tell a good Muslim from a bad one even if one dropped on your head. Salafists, Wahhabis are illiterate fools who have no idea what is happening today. Those idiots are Zionist's pet dogs, nothing more. As for conspiracies, I suggest you go educate yourself about the history of Zionism. Dismissive attitude is proof how uninformed you really are and how brainwashed you actually are.
If combined, Mizrahi and Sephardic Jews number about one half of Israeli Jews.[2]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mizrahi_Jews_in_Israel
 
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If combined, Mizrahi and Sephardic Jews number about one half of Israeli Jews.[2]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mizrahi_Jews_in_Israel



Is that right ... and the cows are jumping over the moon too you know! Tell a lie a million times and guess what, it is still a lie. Hebrew Jews DO NOT possess or control the narrative in the world today. Khazaris who who convert to Judaism and interbred with Europeans becoming Zionists, they are the ones who control the illegal, illegitimate, terrorist state of israel. You can fumble and flop around with wikipedia, or other bullshit links all you want, but the truth cannot be hidden, concealed or blocked.

Whether you want to believe this or not, is inconsequential and irrelevant to us. The Ummah of Nabi Muhammad Alaihi Salaat-u-Wassalam (at least those who possess the intellectual acumen) know the truth about Khazars. For those who are Pakistanis, I urge you all to read the book titled, "The Thirteenth Tribe" by Arthur Koelser the hungarian intellectual who wrote this book on account of the Muslim historian that had investigated the Khazars by visiting their kingdom which lay East to West between the Caspian Sea and the Black and South to North between the Caucus Mountains and the River Volga.

Khazars converted to Judaism in political expediency, since their kingdom existed in the presence of two powerful empires, namely the Khilafa (Islam) and Byzantium (Orthodox Christianity). Judaism was the oldest among the three Abrahamic branches of faith. Hence chose Judaism in an effort to gain political leverage over their rivals. The Khazars had remained undefeated until the Vikings from the North came down to Europe and ravaged them. The final blow to the Khazars came when the Mongols swept across the continent and annihilated the Khazars. It is then, that then that these Fake Jews were dislodged from their home land as they fled into Europe. It is here that they went about mixing and interbreeding with the Europeans. They switched and adopted even the Christian faith to suit their political objectives and sure enough they achieved their goals with destroying Europe with revolutions, world wars and economic slavery.
 
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For those who are Pakistanis, I urge you all to read the book titled, "The Thirteenth Tribe" by Arthur Koelser the hungarian intellectual who wrote this book on account of the Muslim historian that had investigated the Khazars by visiting their kingdom which lay East to West between the Caspian Sea and the Black and South to North between the Caucus Mountains and the River Volga.

Great book, I read it and was thoroughly impressed. Interestingly, a Jewish friend recommended this book to me to help me understand Israel and Ashkenazi Jews.
 
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Is that right ... and the cows are jumping over the moon too you know! Tell a lie a million times and guess what, it is still a lie. Hebrew Jews DO NOT possess or control the narrative in the world today. Khazaris who who convert to Judaism and interbred with Europeans becoming Zionists, they are the ones who control the illegal, illegitimate, terrorist state of israel. You can fumble and flop around with wikipedia, or other bullshit links all you want, but the truth cannot be hidden, concealed or blocked.

Whether you want to believe this or not, is inconsequential and irrelevant to us. The Ummah of Nabi Muhammad Alaihi Salaat-u-Wassalam (at least those who possess the intellectual acumen) know the truth about Khazars. For those who are Pakistanis, I urge you all to read the book titled, "The Thirteenth Tribe" by Arthur Koelser the hungarian intellectual who wrote this book on account of the Muslim historian that had investigated the Khazars by visiting their kingdom which lay East to West between the Caspian Sea and the Black and South to North between the Caucus Mountains and the River Volga.

Khazars converted to Judaism in political expediency, since their kingdom existed in the presence of two powerful empires, namely the Khilafa (Islam) and Byzantium (Orthodox Christianity). Judaism was the oldest among the three Abrahamic branches of faith. Hence chose Judaism in an effort to gain political leverage over their rivals. The Khazars had remained undefeated until the Vikings from the North came down to Europe and ravaged them. The final blow to the Khazars came when the Mongols swept across the continent and annihilated the Khazars. It is then, that then that these Fake Jews were dislodged from their home land as they fled into Europe. It is here that they went about mixing and interbreeding with the Europeans. They switched and adopted even the Christian faith to suit their political objectives and sure enough they achieved their goals with destroying Europe with revolutions, world wars and economic slavery.
ok :coffee:
 
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... through a third country like Turkey? I know such miilitary deals have taken place in secret a few times in the past. But is it possible in the current geopolitical scenario? The relations b/w the two countries have more or less stayed the same from the beginning. So if it was possible then, why not now?

After 27th Feb operation swift retort, its Israel which should be looking to buy Pakistani weapons.

Israeli weapons are shite, didn't work when India tried its luck, and couldn't protect India when PAF came calling.
 
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so while i was banned for not supporting pdfs news pro jewish stance jews jews murdered many women and children in gaza at start of ramadan!!

jews are soo pissful we should suck their balls like right now and become a progressive nation!
 
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Best post in this thread so far. You really hit all the important points.

Do we want to be an independent Muslim nation, or do we want to fall again into Western servitude?



Adorbs! :rofl:



These are two different issues which should be separated from each other.

Suffering backstabbing, treacherous Arab regimes doesn’t mean we should become like them. They have turned their back on their beautiful history and have allowed their wealth to corrupt them.

They have put in their lot with the West, Israel, and India against Turkey, Iran, and us.

Israel’s origin is a sin, and it’s continued existence is an even bigger sin.

We should be on the same page as Iran is about Israel, come what may.



Exactly. Slaves don’t have any choice but to obey their masters.

With Egypt gifting Israel free oil, Palestinians killing each other for Israel’s security and approval, KSA opening up to Israel to please US, and UAE outdoing everyone else in serfdom to the Zionist regime.



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Couldn't have put it better myself.

'Mullah lovers' like you should be banned from this site!:yes4:
 
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If following the Sunnah of our beloved Prophet Muhammad Sallallaho Alaihi Wassallam was so easy, then today we wouldn't find people advocating for relationship with terrorist zionist israel.

Also, not all Jews are bad people. There are Jews out there who denounce the creation of the state of israel as an abomination. Most that occupy Palestine are Khazar, who converted to Judaism in the 9th Century AD. It is these Khazar Jews who dominate the population of Jews today. Semite Jews, the real ethnic Hebrews, are few and have no voice at all.

It is important for Muslims to know that Zionist pose as both Jews and Christians yet have allegiance to neither faith, nor The One God, the only, the absolute power, Allah Subhanahu Wata'aalah. Zionists had infiltrated the Christian and Jewish faiths long ago and Europe was there breeding ground. It is the Zionist movement that behind the French Revolution, the Bolshevik Revolution, American War of Independence, Britain being usurped post Battle of Waterloo against Nepoleon.

So for Muslims, my advice is to seek out knowledge with the Qur'an being your guiding light. For knowledge comes from Allah and Allah alone.



Buddy you wouldn't be able to tell a good Muslim from a bad one even if one dropped on your head. Salafists, Wahhabis are illiterate fools who have no idea what is happening today. Those idiots are Zionist's pet dogs, nothing more. As for conspiracies, I suggest you go educate yourself about the history of Zionism. Dismissive attitude is proof how uninformed you really are and how brainwashed you actually are.
i dont want to get banned again but khazars or jews jre same miscreants troublemakers Pakistan needs to stay away from them.
 
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