WILL ISRAEL OR US ATTACK IRAN SOON ?

[Wright]

you are severely underestimating Russians my freind

Russia does not have the Economy of the former USSR.

 

[Mahmoud_EGY]

The correct answer is NO. Not before December of 2012. Israel would like the US to attack Iran as soon as possible. US will not attack Iran before the US Elections on November 5, 2012. Not only that but the US would not like Israel to attack Iran either. Israel does not want to attack Iran before December 2012, because Nathanyahu wants early election in December 2012. This is why Nathanyahu wants US to attack Iran so that Israel does not have to attack Iran before their own elections.

Elections require stability and both Obama and Nathanyahu cannot risk War right before Elections. Wars can literally screw up Elections and Politicians are very sensitive to that. So when will the War with Iran start ? Would you believe me if I told you that all those predictions about Third World War starting on December 21, 2012 are looking like a distinct possibility.

I am interested in members take on this Prediction.

there are 3 important points about any attack on iran
1 the US and the west economy
2 iran allies in the region
3 iran retaliation

 

[haviZsultan]

Here's an alternative question: will Israel and Iran attack Pakistan together?

Do you know the situation? Why would Israel or Iran attack Pakistan together. Do you read the news in the middle east? The two are sworn enemies.

Shouldn't this be in the Middle east section or something. @Aeronaut @Oscar please move!

By the way I used proxy on your site a few days ago to access youtube and post links. Don't sweat if you saw a different IP.

Iran is a good ally to have... ruled by Mullahs, a severe issue but at least they have what it takes to stand up to the west, look it in the eye and say leave us be. We don't have that and look what a mess our country is.

 

[AUSTERLITZ]

you are severely underestimating Russians my freind

No you are severely overestimating the importance russia attaches to the middle east.

 

[AUSTERLITZ]

Also irani retaliation is being overestimated.The ballistic missiles without nuke warheads are no where near good enough to take out cities with their HE warheads.Plus there are patriots,arrow-2 deployed and us and israeli bombers would be scourging iranian airspace for missile launchpads.Ground invasion isn't going to go anywhere.Without air support they'll get bombed to ****.But for all this israel needs usa,can't do it alone.

 

[The SiLent crY]

That's kinda like a dream for Israel leaders . Israel's Advance has been stopped by 2 Iranian military groups in Lebanon and Gaza . The Israeli superpower Army even couldn't take the control of 33 day war with Hezbollah and they just bombed citizens to ease the pain of their Failure .

Looking at the relation of Iran and the US shows that , the US is never gonna attack Iran cos if they wanted , they would have done that 20 years ago , while Iran neither had a good army nor missile power to end Israel in a couple of hours . nowadays the US should accept Iran as the main player in middle east and should respect that at all . Hopefully Iran's influence is increasing in the region , first in Syria , then Lebanon , Gaza and now in Iraq , Afghanistan might be next one after the US leaves there .

 

[RazorMC]

you are severely underestimating Russians my freind

Not really. No country is prepared to face the US in battle unless there's no other choice.
And Russia can secure its oil supplies from other nations. Iran is not the only one that exports it.

There is almost no reason for Russia to intervene (except diplomatically).

 

[Ceylal]

Israel nor Iran will attack each other. They are natural allies, and both are manipulating the media for their own benefit...Israel to get money and technology from the west and Iran to strengthen it's position in the geopolitical arena...If Iran become, one day if it isn't already a nuclear nation, US, Israel and Europe will accomodate don't quid yourselves!

 

[T-123456]

That's kinda like a dream for Israel leaders . Israel's Advance has been stopped by 2 Iranian military groups in Lebanon and Gaza . The Israeli superpower Army even couldn't take the control of 33 day war with Hezbollah and they just bombed citizens to ease the pain of their Failure .

Looking at the relation of Iran and the US shows that , the US is never gonna attack Iran cos if they wanted , they would have done that 20 years ago , while Iran neither had a good army nor missile power to end Israel in a couple of hours . nowadays the US should accept Iran as the main player in middle east and should respect that at all . Hopefully Iran's influence is increasing in the region , first in Syria , then Lebanon , Gaza and now in Iraq , Afghanistan might be next one after the US leaves there .

The MAIN PLAYER?
You sure?
And with what might i ask?
Not trying to offend you but explain pls,how is Iran the main player in the Midlle East?

 

[RaptorAlpha]

Not soon obviously , israel just had her war with gaza , her armory is empty which needs to be filled by the united states ; read more non-fictional news

 

[MatrixTMN]

Because the OBL raid was not a war act? It was a single operation in a ten year long war. What Pakistanisage said is correct.

 

[The SiLent crY]

The MAIN PLAYER?
You sure?
And with what might i ask?
Not trying to offend you but explain pls,how is Iran the main player in the Midlle East?

Its simple . Look around you and see the influence of Iran in your neighbors , and see why there are lots of US bases around Iran and see why the Gulf states paying such money to arm themselves against Iran . and again see Iran in Syria that hasn't let your Wahhabi-Turk terrorists take the control of there after 21 months of your enormous support . Turkey is just good in economy not in foreign influence as you still have problem with your Kurds inside and if Assad falls there will be no one can be replaced with him as every rebel group will want it's own area and power and Syria will split apart which certainly leads Kurdistan to settle an independent country then you can see the result of your mistake in your Kurdistan and after that in Iraq which gonna end in Iran .

At the end add that its a rival between Iran and Turkey however Turkey's mainly acting like a tool than being independent in policy . Saudi Arabia has no chance as they're just users ( their power based on foreign technology ) and Israel does not have Strategic depth .

 

[T-123456]

Its simple . Look around you and see the influence of Iran in your neighbors , and see why there are lots of US bases around Iran and see why the Gulf states paying such money to arm themselves against Iran . and again see Iran in Syria that hasn't let your Wahhabi-Turk terrorists take the control of there after 21 months of your enormous support . Turkey is just good in economy not in foreign influence as you still have problem with your Kurds inside and if Assad falls there will be no one can be replaced with him as every rebel group will want it's own area and power and Syria will split apart which certainly leads Kurdistan to settle an independent country then you can see the result of your mistake in your Kurdistan and after that in Iraq which gonna end in Iran .

At the end add that its a rival between Iran and Turkey however Turkey's mainly acting like a tool than being independent in policy . Saudi Arabia has no chance as they're just users ( their power based on foreign technology ) and Israel does not have Strategic depth .

Keep dreaming,you lost Syria all arab countries your enemies(shia countries not included)
You have no millitary power and you gonna tell me you THE main player.
There allready is a kurdistan(north Irak).
Take land from Turkey?
You are afraid of a tiny country that is the main player in the middle east(Israel).
If you are what you say you are then wipe them out?
Oh no you cant with your reverse ingeneerd 3rd world weapons.
So instead of talking big,show some action so we can see how big of a player you are.
Dont worry about Irak,bigmouth Maliki(like you)eating his words and trying to avoid isolation from the rest of the world(like your country).
Even the Saudis could wipe your azz.
First deal with Israel then talk!

 

[drunken-monke]

Thousands of time this has surfaced on this very forum and been debunked thousands of time.. Stil this come up on the server.. Poor chap who has again started this..

 

[The SiLent crY]

Keep dreaming,you lost Syria all arab countries your enemies(shia countries not included)
You have no millitary power and you gonna tell me you THE main player.
There allready is a kurdistan(north Irak).
Take land from Turkey?
You are afraid of a tiny country that is the main player in the middle east(Israel).
If you are what you say you are then wipe them out?
Oh no you cant with your reverse ingeneerd 3rd world weapons.
So instead of talking big,show some action so we can see how big of a player you are.
Dont worry about Irak,bigmouth Maliki(like you)eating his words and trying to avoid isolation from the rest of the world(like your country).
Even the Saudis could wipe your azz.
First deal with Israel then talk!

Keep dreaming,you lost Syria
Syria is still standing , its Turkey and Saudi Arabia dreaming to take there while Iran hasn't come to the war directly .

all arab countries your enemies , All the Arabian puppet leaders hate us and are our enemies . regular people have no problem with us . It's the west an specially UK plan to make distance between Muslims and get it's profit and that's why they've put dozens of puppets on Muslims leadership . You can't see any anti arabian news , movie or etc in our country but all they do is showing Iranians specially shias as monster , kafer and enemies in the world .

You have no millitary power and you gonna tell me you THE main player.


Our military power is why we haven't been attacked for 4 decades and that's exactly why All our neighbors even you Turks are hiding behind Americans' BALLS , Its why Turkey joined NATO and Arabian puppets spent billions of dollars on their military forces . as long as I know they have no problem with Israel or Turkey and all their neighbors are their allies so why should they do that ? Iran's military power has proved itself during Iran - Iraq war , during Hezbollah - Israel wars and in Gaza and above of them in bringing safety for our own people . however it's Iranians faith and their belief in Imam Husein's way which makes the evils stop thinking about Iran .

Take land from Turkey?

You need to ask someone who knows about the danger of Kurds in your country which can lead to a civil war like Syria , The Kurds there just need some support then you'll see the **** in your tourism and economy .

You are afraid of a tiny country that is the main player in the middle east(Israel).



You say we're afraid of Israel while we've been facing the US , it's pressure , sanctions and cultural invasion for 35 years . Don't fool yourself man , If we were like what you say , Israel would have attacked our nuclear program like what they did to Iraq ( osirak )in 1980s and Syrian program a few years ago . Just 2 Iranian militia groups have stopped them in their borders and even don't let them think about Iran . Its kinda embarrassing that a Turk call them main player while they're just another US puppet like the rest . I again remind you that Israel doesn't have the strategic depth to be a main player . look at all super powers in the world , the main reason of their power is their strategic depth . Germany lost the war to Soviet union's strategic depth and If they had that they could take more time from the US and Red army to recover .

If you are what you say you are then wipe them out?

Why should we act like crazies and attack them while our policy and ideology are doing that with no war ? Our ideology has influenced in the Muslims" world and you can see it's result that they're hated by all the Muslims except the ones ( Some tools in Arabian leadership ) prefer kissing the US and Israel as$ and betraying Islam for power . Just compare our current influence with 20 years ago . You can see it's sign in Muslims' minds cos they're not blind or brain washed and see who is standing against Zionism and who is going Islam's way .

Oh no you cant with your reverse ingeneerd 3rd world weapons.

Answered before , If we have 3rd world or junk weapons why don't NATO and Israel end us in a night ? It can't be difficult to do that with B2 , F22 and long range missiles . is it ?

NATO and the US you are dying for have failed in Afghanistan and Iraq . Iran will be the hell for them and it will end their Colonization in ME forever .

So instead of talking big,show some action so we can see how big of a player you are.

You can see that if you open your eyes . Just the sanctions show what a big job Iran with around 80 million population is doing . If any country has these sanctions they would be destroyed from inside in a couple of weeks . however it doesn't end here and you need to add their pressure on our allies , their cultural invasion , their Propaganda to show Iranians like terrorists while they themselves have created Al Qaeda during Soviet Afghan war and many other crimes .

Dont worry about Irak,bigmouth Maliki(like you)eating his words and trying to avoid isolation from the rest of the world(like your country).

No need to answer , a troll from some of you Turks and Arabs show how painful our resistance and progress is for you .

Unfortunately the westerns have totally destroyed the Islamic culture , values , Resistance and pride in your country and the other Arabian nations and that's why you have no faith in yourself and can't believe that you can even if the whole world be against you , all you can see in Turkish and Arabian people posts is disappointment and saying how ? how can it happen ? how is that possible ? and ...
A few years ago no one could imagine that an Islamic country advances , ends the west and American slavery and colonization and stands on it's feet but nowadays you see Iran doing that and you can see it's advances in science , military , politics and influence on the outside world however the enemies have hardly tried to show them trivial .

Even the Saudis could wipe your azz.

Yes , we've not forgotten how they shot our fighters in international air space when we were in peace or how they killed 160 men and raped around 100 Iranian women who'd gone there for haj . still their husbands and children looking for them after 20 years .

First deal with Israel then talk!

Funny , very funny ,

we've been dealing with them for more than 30 years . You need to see Iranian soldier's grave in south of the Lebanon or take a look on the scientist martyrs we gifted to God in this war .