Will Egypt join Iraq in the 'Axis of Resistance'?

[Attila the Hun]

Do you know something of this guy's ideology?
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The average Turk does not support Erdogan. The ones that do are deluded. The reason why he keeps getting elected is because the other parties are utter useless.

 

[HannibalBarca]

wowowow
Racist boy. Don't be sooo racist. The age of Ottomans came to an end by Iran-Syria-Russia axis. You are almost done kid

... Do you rly think like that or are u a troll? let's hope you are trolling...

The great great majority of civilisation/empires came to an End Because of themselfs...

 

[500]

Egypt extends participation in Yemen conflict

Egypt's National Defence Council on Sunday extended the military's participation in a Saudi-led operation in Yemen, the presidency said in a statement. It did not specify how long the extension would be for.

"The National Defence Council agreed during the meeting to extend the participation of the required elements from the Egyptian armed forces in a combat operation outside the nation's border to defend Egyptian and Arab national security in the Gulf, Red Sea, and Bab al-Mandab areas," the statement said.


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lol

 

[Deidara]

@500 why do non-muslims see muslims as some sort of gang ? the view of non-muslims as citizens of the world but muslims as a sub-culture with its own gang signs and gang language.

 

[HannibalBarca]

@500 why do non-muslims see muslims as some sort of gang ? the view of non-muslims as citizens of the world but muslims as a sub-culture with its own gang signs and gang language.

WE call it jealousy... simple as that Those "Gang" live on the world history/oil/etc... and they think we do not deserve it.
SO any view/attack on this part of the world is always welcome/

It's like you see someone on a pill of gold, and yet he's still poor and do nothing. and you always saying to yourself, "f**k if i was in his place I could do that and that, why not me why??"

 

[Aramagedon]

I for sure ain't a ugly gypsy persian.

Turkish rat couldn't be that proud. lol

 

[TheCamelGuy]

The average Turk does not support Erdogan. The ones that do are deluded. The reason why he keeps getting elected is because the other parties are utter useless.

Rural area Turks who live in Europe support him by far.

 

[Attila the Hun]

Rural area Turks who live in Europe support him by far.

He is the better evil - So, I don't blame why some would support him. But in Turkiye, a lot of Non-Turks support him too.
But, I'd also support him over CHP.......

 

[Full Moon]

@Kuwaiti Girl, your silence seems to be quite revealing....

 

[The SC]

In my opinion, Egypt must eventually choose between Turkey and the Gulf states, in which case I think Turkey will eventually win the Egyptians over.

Aside from the lunatic Erdogan, Turkey probably still has a better future than the Gulf states. For one thing, unlike the Gulf states, Turkey is a "real" country with a very strong national identity and proud history. Secondly, from an economic point of view, Turkey is more self-sufficient than the Gulf states, less dependent on non-renewable resources as its main source of income, and much larger than Saudi Arabia and the UAE. As a result, Turkey will find it easier to influence Egypt than the Gulf states would in the coming years.

Two years ago, I predicted the emergence of a Turko-Persian alliance in the coming years. People laughed at the idea and shrugged it off because they felt that Iran and Turkey will never be able to set aside their differences on Syria. Well, today, you can see the foundations of a future Turkish-Iranian alliance being laid out across the region. Both Iran and Turkey have come together to squash Kurdish separatism as well as to benefit from each other's economies. Turkey and Iran found a common ground in their opposition to the establishment of a Kurdish state. Furthermore, the Turks want Iranian gas and oil to meet their energy demands, while the Iranians want Turkish money and gold to strengthen their economy. This economic interdependence between the Iranians and Turks has brought both nations closer to each other.

Egypt will eventually shift closer to the Turkish-Iranian bloc. Egypt will want energy from either Iran or Iraq, and foreign investment from Turkish businesses. In other words, sooner or later, Egypt will move away from the Gulf and align closer with Turkey, Iran and, to a lesser extent, Iraq.

Turkey views Egypt as a gateway into the Red Sea and Indian Ocean. A strong Turkish presence in Egypt can help faciliate the expansion of Turkey's sphere of influence southward into the Horn of Africa, which it will use as a launchpad into the open sea. For these reasons, Egypt is very important for the Turks. It's also important because there are at least 1 million Egyptian Turkmens who have historical links to Turkey.

Iran, on the other hand, views Egypt as a potential deterrent against Israel. An Iranian presence in Egypt, even if minimal, can always keep Israel at bay.

Turkey and Iran's interests in Egypt will not collide with each other. On the contrary, Iran and Turkey will more or less complement each other in Egypt. The Turks will provide the Egyptians with economic investments and military assistance, whereas the Iranians (and Iraqis) will provide the Egyptians with a continuous supply of energy and materials. Egypt will become Iran's gateway into North Africa and Turkey's gateway into the Red Sea and Indian Ocean. It's a win-win situation for all sides involved.

The Gulf states will feel threatened by these developments, of course. The Saudis view Egypt as their first line of defense against any foreign incursion into Saudi Arabia's backyard and sphere of influence. A Turkish presence in Egypt will mean a Turkish presence in the Red Sea, which will greatly alarm the Saudis. Saudi Arabia's interests in Egypt will, therefore, naturally come into collision with Turkey's interests.

For the Saudis and Emiratis, they can't afford to lose Egypt to Turkey or to the future Turkish-Iranian bloc. Interestingly, this will force the Saudis and Emiratis to over-invest in Egypt in order to keep the Egyptians away from the Turks and Iranians. But this can't last forever since the GCC states are running out of both money and energy resources.

Consequently, the Saudis and Emiratis will eventually form closer ties with Israel in order to use the Israelis as a leverage against the Egyptians. The Saudis and Emiratis will also strengthen their ties with the Kurds of the region in order to undermine both Turkish and Iranian regional goals.

Whatever the outcome may be, I think Egypt will gradually drift away from the Gulf states and align closer with Turkey and, to a lesser extent, Iran and Iraq.

Egypt will not assert itself as an independent power until it gets its own house in order and expands its economy. Only then will Egypt be able to become a regional power capable of forming its own independent foreign policies without being influenced by an outside power.

Speculative analyses on the complex dynamics of the Middle east.. and errs on most of them..

UAE is an islamist country , Saudi is an islamist country , Bahrain is anislamist country, Oman is an islamist Country, Qatar is an islamist country; kuwait is an islamist country. The muslim brotherhood is a political islamist group, Iran is a shia islamist country. ALL of them want to rule over the msulim world. everyone fight each others to maintain their power. As for why few Gulf states are open, it's simple they need to exist, and to exist you need to gather ppl and ppl are not always muslims... so that's why you see this tolerance. If their islamic culture is in jeopardy they will close the pipe, it's a fact and that was history 60-50 years ago. The only fault those state are making is thinking that by gambling on Gov.. the ppl will follow, since in their own countries that's who it works... but not anymore.
It's just a chess game of maintening power longer than the other and upon the other, nothing more nothing less. there is no " beautiful gesture or mind" behind it. if goodness was their motto, the gulf state wcould have made the muslim world a paradise by now with the dozens and dozens of trillions they gain over the years, meanwhile, with all of that , their state are even less than sub africans states...
Giving your ppl thousands of dollars/free healthcare and education will not give you a country, but just one on perfusion... if the "outsiders " leave the country , they will be no country anymore.

Update: KSA is not against Bashar keeping power in Syria..
Egypt never had a putsch while the military were in power, it only happened with Mubarak after 30 years of power and that was in an overall "Arab spring".., So the odds of anyone else taking power from the military in Egypt is close to nil..

Egypt extends participation in Yemen conflict

Egypt's National Defence Council on Sunday extended the military's participation in a Saudi-led operation in Yemen, the presidency said in a statement. It did not specify how long the extension would be for.

"The National Defence Council agreed during the meeting to extend the participation of the required elements from the Egyptian armed forces in a combat operation outside the nation's border to defend Egyptian and Arab national security in the Gulf, Red Sea, and Bab al-Mandab areas," the statement said.


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lol

So, what is your problem with it? LOL

 

[Hell NO]

Every muslim country except Turkey and few others in central asia have a written official "secular" state. all the others, it's written that Islam is ours religion. And not only Irans got Islamist as their leadership, all golf states have islamist leaders.using islam to influence others, ( and abiding to sharia) that's when you became "Islamist". Whoever do that around you, then you know it's one of them.
UAE do not see "islamism" as an economical threat but a political one. to be honest if all muslim country around UAE was die hard islamic countries ( without wanting to evade or hurt her) , she will be happy, since they will be a "beacon of light" to the other part of the world and will get a lot of support and money.

As for UAE and egypt friendship, they got into a fight, when UAE opened his base in erythrea, egypt fear if thing goes wrong in the gulf state btw each others, then the suez canal could be in jeaopardy by being blocked by old " friends"

No one can block the Suez canal or any water way leading to it because it's direct act of war not just on egypt but also all the countries that use the water way aka the whole world.

 

[Hell NO]

The Emiratis actually like the Russians. They're both hell-bent on destroying Islamism / political Islam in the MENA region. Both are against the Muslim Brotherhood and other Islamist political factions. Both prefer secular rule in the Arab republics to Islamist rule. Both do not like Qatar, and both aren't fond of Turkey's AK party.

So I actually disagree with you on this. I think the UAE and Russia share a lot of common goals/objectives in the Greater Middle East. Both countries want to strengthen their ties with Egypt, Libya and possibly Tunisia in order to ensure that none of these countries get taken over by Islamic groups in the future.

Also, the UAE quietly supports Russia in Syria as well. The UAE was very supportive towards the Russian military intervention in Syria. It also strongly attacked Turkey after the Turks shot down the Russian jet in late 2015.

Another country that's strongly aligned with Russia and the UAE with regard to opposing Islamism is Bahrain.

The Saudis are a little bit different. They also don't want any Islamic political group to take over the Arab republics, but their primary objective right now is to get rid of the Syrian government at any cost because of its close ties to Iran, even if it means supporting Islamic militant groups in Syria. But, generally speaking, the Saudis are also anti-Islamism, specifically anti-Muslim Brotherhood.

There's actually a very logical reason for why countries like Bahrain, Russia and the UAE are against Islamism. Bahrain fears Islamism because it knows that the rise of Islamism in the region will lead to a Shia Islamic revolution in Bahrain, which will bring an end to monarchical rule. The Russians fear the rise of Islamism because they know it'll eventually negatively influence many Muslims in Russia, such as the Chechens and, possibly, Tatars. The Emiratis, however, fear Islamism due to economic reasons. The UAE's economic relevance and global standing depends on its openness and tolerance. If Islamism rises in the region, then the tourism sector in the UAE will take a huge hit.

As for Iran, it's already the leader of the Shia Islamic world. And Iran, just like AKP-ruled Turkey, is passionate about promoting Islamism across the region, except in Syria, where Iran happens to be aligned with a secular Baathist government because of its strong ties with Hezbollah.

Eventually, we will see the formation of two opposing alliances/blocs in the MENA region. One bloc will promote Islamism, while the other will fight against Islamism. The pro-Islamist bloc will be led by AKP-ruled Turkey and the Islamic Republic of Iran. Both countries will get closer to each other because of the following 3 reasons:

1. They share the common objective of preventing the Kurds from establishing their own state.
2. They share the common goal of promoting Islamism at the expense of secular nationalism.
3. They are gradually strengthening their economic ties. The Turks want Iranian oil and gas to meet their energy demands, while the Iranians want Turkish banknotes and gold to meet their financial demands.

The anti-Islamic bloc, on the other hand, will largely be led by the UAE and given tacit support by the likes of Israel and Russia.

So the UAE and Russia will help each other in Libya. They'll try to help Haftar reconquer all of Libya and defeat the Tripoli-based Turkish-backed Islamists.

Egypt remains a swing state. Secular rule will ensure that Egypt remains closer to the likes of the UAE and Russia than to the likes of Iran, Iraq and Turkey. But an Islamist takeover of Egypt, which I personally think is highly possible in the next couple of years, will pull Egypt closer to Turkey and Iran.

I personally think the Muslim Brotherhood is still strong and organized enough to retake Egypt and even your country, Tunisia. I personally hope this doesn't happen since I prefer secularism to Islamism. But as I see it, the situation in Egypt is very fragile and another revolution is probably just around the corner.

The Emiratis know this very well, which is why they're extremely worried about the situation in Egypt. The Emiratis have already expressed their disapproval of the way the money they sent to Egypt has been mismanaged by el-Sisi and his government. The Emiratis were hoping that their investments in Egypt would quickly turn the country's economy around and help silence dissent, but this hasn't happened yet. On the contrary, the Egyptian leadership hasn't learned anything from past mistakes and is continuing to mismanage its finances. If el-Sisi doesn't fix his country's economy in the next couple of years, then I won't be surprised if the Islamists return to power before 2020, in which case Egypt will shift away from the Gulf and get closer to Turkey.

The mbs are despised by the vast majority of egyptians and all of their leaders are either dead or in prison that includes small/regional leaders and most of their youth have joined isis(however they are still active abroad) that is demonstrated by there inability to organise any demonstrations even in areas considered a stronghold for them.
As for the economy the reforms by alsisi are praised by almost every financial organization and all the most known/famous ones. That can be seen from the ranking of Egypt which improved massively. As for a likely revolution read about 11/11 call for a revolution.
But you are right sisi has a couple of years to fix the economy otherwise he wouldn't get re-elected.

The "Axis of Resistance", what a sweet lie...

Well I hate Iranian ruling system.but the truth be said Israel fears and hates Iran more than the Arab countries combined.

 

[mike2000 is back]

Will Egypt join Iraq in the 'Axis of Resistance'?
Iraq is playing the role of broker to include Egypt in the Axis of Resistance, led by Iran.
http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/ori...ypt-iran-saudi-axis-resistance-basra-oil.html

BAGHDAD — As Egypt and Saudi Arabia remain at odds, Iraq and Iran are making their moves to befriend the Land of the Nile and perhaps shepherd Egypt into the Axis of Resistance.

Iraqi Minister of Foreign Affairs Ibrahim al-Jaafari said recently that “Egypt is the Arabs’ greatest,” referring to the country's people, history and culture.

Habib al-Sadr, in a Dec. 28 speech as he assumed his position as the new Iraqi ambassador to Egypt, called Egypt "the backbone of the Arab world." He said the countries share similar pressures, and risks from armed groups, and from those commonalities arose “the necessity of cooperation between the two countries."

When Sadr visited Cairo on Jan. 16, he said Iraq is keen to proceed with its agreement to export oil to Egypt, which the Saudis stopped supplying. Iraq will provide Egypt with 1 million barrels of Basra light oil each month.

Iraqi National Alliance parliamentarian Sadiq al-Mahna recently told Al-Monitor Iraq's influence is growing. “In response to the question about whether Iraq will manage to include Egypt in the Axis of Resistance led by Iran, I would like to say that Iraq will manage to become a key player in settling affairs in its regional surroundings and in tipping the balance of power and opening international horizons to end the terrorist phase.”

Also on the topic of the axis, Fatima al-Zarkani, another National Alliance parliament member, told Al-Monitor, “It is likely that Egypt would join an alliance with Iraq, Iran and Syria to fight terrorism and to stop extremist thought from [harming] the region.”

Relations between Iraq and Egypt are strategic on all levels — economic, security and political — according to Jaafari, Iraq's foreign minister. He agreed that rapprochement between the two countries could turn into an alliance or cooperation to face terrorist risks and economic crises.

Ambassador Alaa Youssef, official spokesperson for the Egyptian presidency, addressed the topic in statements published Dec. 22. He said that Jaafari, during his December meeting with Egyptian President Abdel Fattah al-Sisi, called for participation in “a strategic project to fight terrorism.” This call constituted a step from Iraq to improve relations with Egypt, after Iraq’s ties with Saudi Arabia became tense.

A possible first step to include Egypt in the Axis of Resistance took place when Iran invited Egypt to the round of peace talks regarding Syria that were held in October in Lausanne, Switzerland. Iranian media had also noted that Egypt asked Iran to help it face Saudi Arabia.

Egypt’s distance from its alliance with Saudi Arabia and its rapprochement with Iraq brings it closer to Iran, which heads the Axis of Resistance.

On Nov. 1, the Citizen Alliance affiliated with the Islamic Supreme Council, led by Ammar al-Hakim, called for using the Iraqi-Egyptian rapprochement to form an alliance including Iran and Algeria to face the Sunni axis of Turkey, Saudi Arabia and Qatar.

The Citizen Alliance’s call was among the proposals of influential Shiite political parties in Iraq that are part of the current government and the same alliance to which Iraqi Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi and Jaafari belong.

Each member of the Axis of Resistance must participate officially and unofficially in the battle against armed groups fighting President Bashar al-Assad’s regime in Syria. Egypt had sent young men affiliated with its forces to the Syrian battle unofficially and became part of the conflict in Syria.

Iran is pushing to make Iraq the main broker of Egypt’s inclusion in the Axis of Resistance. This would allow Egypt to benefit from several resources it had been missing, like the oil it is now receiving from Iraq.

The Iraqi-Egyptian rapprochement will benefit Egypt more than Iraq, as their alliance might pull Iraq away from the Gulf Cooperation Council, specifically from Saudi Arabia, which has the final say in Gulf matters. Meanwhile, Egypt will enjoy as much oil as it needs at a lower cost, compared to Saudi pricing.

If Egypt joins the Axis of Resistance, whose stances in the Middle East are well known, it will make the axis stronger, as Egypt will be joining another key Arab state in the alliance — Iraq.

Iran’s influence on Egypt and Iraq will strengthen Iran's position facing Saudi Arabia, which has lost Egypt as an important ally in the region. This might stir new conflicts in some Arab states, specifically Egypt, which is likely to be the new stage of terrorist operations.

AXIS OF RESISTANCE ??
WTF??