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Well Haftar has no other choice than Russia, bc of the embargo on libya military equipment. If the UE/USA agreed to give something , Haftar will shift over to them. it's not like he likes russia for what they are, but more for what they can give him, afterall haftar exile in gaddafi times wasn't in Russia but in US soil.... . For the egyptian part, they are already in Russia "supply line" with the last purchase of Kamov helis and so on. Emiratis on the other hand are not pro-russians (UAE use Sissi bc he has an army , so that UAE can get thing balanced in th region) , so conflict will rise in libya in the coming months, btw those three ( Emiratis/egyptians/Hadtar) ,since they can't touch Russia, they will pick on his supporter, even if they are " friends" in publics. The fight of power btw the gulf states is just a slf-centric show , like brothers fighting in front of their moms to see who gonna get kissed first... it will end eventually. Meanwhile in Egypt, sissi if overthrown, the brotherhood will not take power, they will act like Ennadha in Tunisia, they will let a "good looking" one take power, play with the rules and then after maybe 5-10years be back on the show. As for Iran , it will be as always in the history of the muslims, " you are my friend bc I don't have a choice for now, but be sure, that you will never be my brother".

Iran is like this little brother, to young to play with 10 older brothers. He always want to be in and loved, but since he's too diffenrent from the group, he's always rejected, so he will do everything to be seen by his older brothers, whatever the cost... but time goes on and on, he became an adult and learn a terrible truth... his mom wasn't rly his mom... and then he understand the eyes given to him by his older brothers
The Emiratis actually like the Russians. They're both hell-bent on destroying Islamism / political Islam in the MENA region. Both are against the Muslim Brotherhood and other Islamist political factions. Both prefer secular rule in the Arab republics to Islamist rule. Both do not like Qatar, and both aren't fond of Turkey's AK party.

So I actually disagree with you on this. I think the UAE and Russia share a lot of common goals/objectives in the Greater Middle East. Both countries want to strengthen their ties with Egypt, Libya and possibly Tunisia in order to ensure that none of these countries get taken over by Islamic groups in the future.

Also, the UAE quietly supports Russia in Syria as well. The UAE was very supportive towards the Russian military intervention in Syria. It also strongly attacked Turkey after the Turks shot down the Russian jet in late 2015.

Another country that's strongly aligned with Russia and the UAE with regard to opposing Islamism is Bahrain.

The Saudis are a little bit different. They also don't want any Islamic political group to take over the Arab republics, but their primary objective right now is to get rid of the Syrian government at any cost because of its close ties to Iran, even if it means supporting Islamic militant groups in Syria. But, generally speaking, the Saudis are also anti-Islamism, specifically anti-Muslim Brotherhood.

There's actually a very logical reason for why countries like Bahrain, Russia and the UAE are against Islamism. Bahrain fears Islamism because it knows that the rise of Islamism in the region will lead to a Shia Islamic revolution in Bahrain, which will bring an end to monarchical rule. The Russians fear the rise of Islamism because they know it'll eventually negatively influence many Muslims in Russia, such as the Chechens and, possibly, Tatars. The Emiratis, however, fear Islamism due to economic reasons. The UAE's economic relevance and global standing depends on its openness and tolerance. If Islamism rises in the region, then the tourism sector in the UAE will take a huge hit.

As for Iran, it's already the leader of the Shia Islamic world. And Iran, just like AKP-ruled Turkey, is passionate about promoting Islamism across the region, except in Syria, where Iran happens to be aligned with a secular Baathist government because of its strong ties with Hezbollah.

Eventually, we will see the formation of two opposing alliances/blocs in the MENA region. One bloc will promote Islamism, while the other will fight against Islamism. The pro-Islamist bloc will be led by AKP-ruled Turkey and the Islamic Republic of Iran. Both countries will get closer to each other because of the following 3 reasons:

1. They share the common objective of preventing the Kurds from establishing their own state.
2. They share the common goal of promoting Islamism at the expense of secular nationalism.
3. They are gradually strengthening their economic ties. The Turks want Iranian oil and gas to meet their energy demands, while the Iranians want Turkish banknotes and gold to meet their financial demands.

The anti-Islamic bloc, on the other hand, will largely be led by the UAE and given tacit support by the likes of Israel and Russia.

So the UAE and Russia will help each other in Libya. They'll try to help Haftar reconquer all of Libya and defeat the Tripoli-based Turkish-backed Islamists.

Egypt remains a swing state. Secular rule will ensure that Egypt remains closer to the likes of the UAE and Russia than to the likes of Iran, Iraq and Turkey. But an Islamist takeover of Egypt, which I personally think is highly possible in the next couple of years, will pull Egypt closer to Turkey and Iran.

I personally think the Muslim Brotherhood is still strong and organized enough to retake Egypt and even your country, Tunisia. I personally hope this doesn't happen since I prefer secularism to Islamism. But as I see it, the situation in Egypt is very fragile and another revolution is probably just around the corner.

The Emiratis know this very well, which is why they're extremely worried about the situation in Egypt. The Emiratis have already expressed their disapproval of the way the money they sent to Egypt has been mismanaged by el-Sisi and his government. The Emiratis were hoping that their investments in Egypt would quickly turn the country's economy around and help silence dissent, but this hasn't happened yet. On the contrary, the Egyptian leadership hasn't learned anything from past mistakes and is continuing to mismanage its finances. If el-Sisi doesn't fix his country's economy in the next couple of years, then I won't be surprised if the Islamists return to power before 2020, in which case Egypt will shift away from the Gulf and get closer to Turkey.
 
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The Emiratis actually like the Russians. They're both hell-bent on destroying Islamism / political Islam in the MENA region. Both are against the Muslim Brotherhood and other Islamist political factions. Both prefer secular rule in the Arab republics to Islamist rule. Both do not like Qatar, and both aren't fond of Turkey's AK party.

So I actually disagree with you on this. I think the UAE and Russia share a lot of common goals/objectives in the Greater Middle East. Both countries want to strengthen their ties with Egypt, Libya and possibly Tunisia in order to ensure that none of these countries get taken over by Islamic groups in the future.

Also, the UAE quietly supports Russia in Syria as well. The UAE was very supportive towards the Russian military intervention in Syria. It also strongly attacked Turkey after the Turks shot down the Russian jet in late 2015.

Another country that's strongly aligned with Russia and the UAE with regard to opposing Islamism is Bahrain.

The Saudis are a little bit different. They also don't want any Islamic political group to take over the Arab republics, but their primary objective right now is to get rid of the Syrian government at any cost because of its close ties to Iran, even if it means supporting Islamic militant groups in Syria. But, generally speaking, the Saudis are also anti-Islamism, specifically anti-Muslim Brotherhood.

There's actually a very logical reason for why countries like Bahrain, Russia and the UAE are against Islamism. Bahrain fears Islamism because it knows that the rise of Islamism in the region will lead to a Shia Islamic revolution in Bahrain, which will bring an end to monarchical rule. The Russians fear the rise of Islamism because they know it'll eventually negatively influence many Muslims in Russia, such as the Chechens and, possibly, Tatars. The Emiratis, however, fear Islamism due to economic reasons. The UAE's economic relevance and global standing depends on its openness and tolerance. If Islamism rises in the region, then the tourism sector in the UAE will take a huge hit.

As for Iran, it's already the leader of the Shia Islamic world. And Iran, just like AKP-ruled Turkey, is passionate about promoting Islamism across the region, except in Syria, where Iran happens to be aligned with a secular Baathist government because of its strong ties with Hezbollah.

Eventually, we will see the formation of two opposing alliances/blocs in the MENA region. One bloc will promote Islamism, while the other will fight against Islamism. The pro-Islamist bloc will be led by AKP-ruled Turkey and the Islamic Republic of Iran. Both countries will get closer to each other because of the following 3 reasons:

1. They share the common objective of preventing the Kurds from establishing their own state.
2. They share the common goal of promoting Islamism at the expense of secular nationalism.
3. They are gradually strengthening their economic ties. The Turks want Iranian oil and gas to meet their energy demands, while the Iranians want Turkish banknotes and gold to meet their financial demands.

The anti-Islamic bloc, on the other hand, will largely be led by the UAE and given tacit support by the likes of Israel and Russia.

So the UAE and Russia will help each other in Libya. They'll try to help Haftar reconquer all of Libya and defeat the Tripoli-based Turkish-backed Islamists.

Egypt remains a swing state. Secular rule will ensure that Egypt remains closer to the likes of the UAE and Russia than to the likes of Iran, Iraq and Turkey. But an Islamist takeover of Egypt, which I personally think is highly possible in the next couple of years, will pull Egypt closer to Turkey and Iran.

I personally think the Muslim Brotherhood is still strong and organized enough to retake Egypt and even your country, Tunisia. I personally hope this doesn't happen since I prefer secularism to Islamism. But as I see it, the situation in Egypt is very fragile and another revolution is probably just around the corner.

The Emiratis know this very well, which is why they're extremely worried about the situation in Egypt. The Emiratis have already expressed their disapproval of the way the money they sent to Egypt has been mismanaged by el-Sisi and his government. The Emiratis were hoping that their investments in Egypt would quickly turn the country's economy around and help silence dissent, but this hasn't happened yet. On the contrary, the Egyptian leadership hasn't learned anything from past mistakes and is continuing to mismanage its finances. If el-Sisi doesn't fix his country's economy in the next couple of years, then I won't be surprised if the Islamists return to power before 2020, in which case Egypt will shift away from the Gulf and get closer to Turkey.

UAE is an islamist country , Saudi is an islamist country , Bahrain is anislamist country, Oman is an islamist Country, Qatar is an islamist country; kuwait is an islamist country. The muslim brotherhood is a political islamist group, Iran is a shia islamist country. ALL of them want to rule over the msulim world. everyone fight each others to maintain their power. As for why few Gulf states are open, it's simple they need to exist, and to exist you need to gather ppl and ppl are not always muslims... so that's why you see this tolerance. If their islamic culture is in jeopardy they will close the pipe, it's a fact and that was history 60-50 years ago. The only fault those state are making is thinking that by gambling on Gov.. the ppl will follow, since in their own countries that's who it works... but not anymore.
It's just a chess game of maintening power longer than the other and upon the other, nothing more nothing less. there is no " beautiful gesture or mind" behind it. if goodness was their motto, the gulf state wcould have made the muslim world a paradise by now with the dozens and dozens of trillions they gain over the years, meanwhile, with all of that , their state are even less than sub africans states...
Giving your ppl thousands of dollars/free healthcare and education will not give you a country, but just one on perfusion... if the "outsiders " leave the country , they will be no country anymore.
 
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UAE is an islamist country , Saudi is an islamist country , Bahrain is anislamist country, Oman is an islamist Country, Qatar is an islamist country; kuwait is an islamist country. The muslim brotherhood is a political islamist group, Iran is a shia islamist country. ALL of them want to rule over the msulim world. everyone fight each others to maintain their power. As for why few Gulf states are open, it's simple they need to exist, and to exist you need to gather ppl and ppl are not always muslims... so that's why you see this tolerance. If their islamist culture is in jeopardy they will close the pipe, it's a fact and that was history 60-50 years ago. The only fault those state are making is thinking that by gambling on Gov.. the ppl will follow, since in their own countries that's who it works... but not anymore.
It's just a chess game of maintening power longer than the other and upon the other, nothing more nothing less. there is no " beautiful gesture or mind" behind it. if goodness was their motto, the gulf state wcould have made the muslim world a paradise by now with the dozens and dozens of trillions they gain over the years, meanwhile, with all of that , their state are even less than sub africans states...
These are all Muslim-majority countries whose official/state religion is Islam, but none of them are ruled by "Islamists", except for Iran.

I agree that no country represents a "good" cause. Countries only follow their own interests. I fully agree with you on that.

However, countries often promote their own ideologies in order to protect their interests. For example, the UAE promotes an anti-Islamist foreign policy not because it believes in secularism but because it views Islamism as a threat to its economic interests. Conversely, Turkey is promoting a pro-Islamist foreign policy not because it genuinely believes in Islam but because it views Islamism as a means to expand its sphere of influence into the Arab World.

In the end, these countries are promoting different ideologies for the sole purpose of securing their interests. None of them strongly believe in any cause.
 
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These are all Muslim-majority countries whose official/state religion is Islam, but none of them are ruled by "Islamists", except for Iran.

I agree that no country represents a "good" cause. Countries only follow their own interests. I fully agree with you on that.

However, countries often promote their own ideologies in order to protect their interests. For example, the UAE promotes an anti-Islamist foreign policy not because it believes in secularism but because it views Islamism as a threat to its economic interests. Conversely, Turkey is promoting a pro-Islamist foreign policy not because it genuinely believes in Islam but because it views Islamism as a means to expand its sphere of influence into the Arab World.

In the end, these countries are promoting different ideologies for the sole purpose of securing their interests. None of them strongly believe in any cause.

So the clergy in KSA who yield an enormous influence in terms of politics, at least within KSA, are not Islamists? GCC states that are mostly ruled by Sharia or have many laws deriving from Islamic law, are not Islamist either? KSA and Qatar and others have not been concerned with supporting Islam and Muslim endeavors across the world either, or what?

Turkey Islamist? What's exactly Islamist about Turkey? So Erdogan removing some of the legacy of Ataturk (much of it unpopular in Turkey given the support of AKP) turns Turkey into an Islamist country? Where exactly else do Turkey support Islamist forces let alone have any influences aside from a few proxies in Northern Syria, many of whom are Syrian Turkmen?

As for Iran, they are Islamist but their "Islamism" is only relevant for Shias. More precisely Twelvers. Meaning a very small number of people at the end of the day compared to the actual number of Muslims worldwide.
Mostly Shias in Iraq, Lebanon, Afghanistan and Pakistan. Any other Islamism other than Wilayat al-Faqih (even rivaling forms of Islamism such as traditional Shia Twelver Islam as practiced in the Arab world historically and Iraq in particular among the Shia Arabs - Al-Sistani being a symbol of that) are also seen as threats evidence of Iranian (Mullah) policies in Iraq in this regard.

@HannibalBarca is right. This is not about ideologies, its about regimes, mostly unelected and incompetent by large, that are hellbent on gaining influence by all means necessary. Regimes that have little regard for the wishes of their people and for the consequences of their policies.

Eventually the region will move towards an EU-like cooperation as everything else that has been tried, has largely failed. The various isms will fight each other and compete with each other until sanity (economic, security etc.) cooperation prevails.

There is no other solution. And when that occurs naturally nationalism or at least regional spheres will emerge and prevail.

That however does not mean that Islam will vanish or that Islam will play no role in the societies or peoples lives. However hopefully such developments will give rise to better regimes and governments and by default a "peoples" democracy/representation/call it what you want to rather than small select power bases be they clergy, military, monarchy, supreme leaders, elected dictators etc.
 
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The Turks want Iranian oil and gas to meet their energy demands

Phuck sake, enough with this already. Turkey and Iran don't see eye-to-eye and your here talking about Turko-Persian alliance. This is not going to happen.
We can always get our Oil and Gas from Turkmenistan and Azerbaijan. No need for Iran.
I'd rather we buy from Russia too.

Turkey is promoting a pro-Islamist foreign policy not because it genuinely believes in Islam but because it views Islamism as a means to expand its sphere of influence into the Arab World.

Turkey does not get on with any Arab country, do we? So what the heck are you on about.
 
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These are all Muslim-majority countries whose official/state religion is Islam, but none of them are ruled by "Islamists", except for Iran.

I agree that no country represents a "good" cause. Countries only follow their own interests. I fully agree with you on that.

However, countries often promote their own ideologies in order to protect their interests. For example, the UAE promotes an anti-Islamist foreign policy not because it believes in secularism but because it views Islamism as a threat to its economic interests. Conversely, Turkey is promoting a pro-Islamist foreign policy not because it genuinely believes in Islam but because it views Islamism as a means to expand its sphere of influence into the Arab World.

In the end, these countries are promoting different ideologies for the sole purpose of securing their interests. None of them strongly believe in any cause.

Every muslim country except Turkey and few others in central asia have a written official "secular" state. all the others, it's written that Islam is ours religion. And not only Irans got Islamist as their leadership, all golf states have islamist leaders.using islam to influence others, ( and abiding to sharia) that's when you became "Islamist". Whoever do that around you, then you know it's one of them.
UAE do not see "islamism" as an economical threat but a political one. to be honest if all muslim country around UAE was die hard islamic countries ( without wanting to evade or hurt her) , she will be happy, since they will be a "beacon of light" to the other part of the world and will get a lot of support and money.

As for UAE and egypt friendship, they got into a fight, when UAE opened his base in erythrea, egypt fear if thing goes wrong in the gulf state btw each others, then the suez canal could be in jeaopardy by being blocked by old " friends"
 
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The Emiratis actually like the Russians. They're both hell-bent on destroying Islamism / political Islam in the MENA region. Both are against the Muslim Brotherhood and other Islamist political factions. Both prefer secular rule in the Arab republics to Islamist rule. Both do not like Qatar, and both aren't fond of Turkey's AK party.

So I actually disagree with you on this. I think the UAE and Russia share a lot of common goals/objectives in the Greater Middle East. Both countries want to strengthen their ties with Egypt, Libya and possibly Tunisia in order to ensure that none of these countries get taken over by Islamic groups in the future.

Also, the UAE quietly supports Russia in Syria as well. The UAE was very supportive towards the Russian military intervention in Syria. It also strongly attacked Turkey after the Turks shot down the Russian jet in late 2015.

Another country that's strongly aligned with Russia and the UAE with regard to opposing Islamism is Bahrain.

The Saudis are a little bit different. They also don't want any Islamic political group to take over the Arab republics, but their primary objective right now is to get rid of the Syrian government at any cost because of its close ties to Iran, even if it means supporting Islamic militant groups in Syria. But, generally speaking, the Saudis are also anti-Islamism, specifically anti-Muslim Brotherhood.

There's actually a very logical reason for why countries like Bahrain, Russia and the UAE are against Islamism. Bahrain fears Islamism because it knows that the rise of Islamism in the region will lead to a Shia Islamic revolution in Bahrain, which will bring an end to monarchical rule. The Russians fear the rise of Islamism because they know it'll eventually negatively influence many Muslims in Russia, such as the Chechens and, possibly, Tatars. The Emiratis, however, fear Islamism due to economic reasons. The UAE's economic relevance and global standing depends on its openness and tolerance. If Islamism rises in the region, then the tourism sector in the UAE will take a huge hit.

As for Iran, it's already the leader of the Shia Islamic world. And Iran, just like AKP-ruled Turkey, is passionate about promoting Islamism across the region, except in Syria, where Iran happens to be aligned with a secular Baathist government because of its strong ties with Hezbollah.

Eventually, we will see the formation of two opposing alliances/blocs in the MENA region. One bloc will promote Islamism, while the other will fight against Islamism. The pro-Islamist bloc will be led by AKP-ruled Turkey and the Islamic Republic of Iran. Both countries will get closer to each other because of the following 3 reasons:

1. They share the common objective of preventing the Kurds from establishing their own state.
2. They share the common goal of promoting Islamism at the expense of secular nationalism.
3. They are gradually strengthening their economic ties. The Turks want Iranian oil and gas to meet their energy demands, while the Iranians want Turkish banknotes and gold to meet their financial demands.

The anti-Islamic bloc, on the other hand, will largely be led by the UAE and given tacit support by the likes of Israel and Russia.

So the UAE and Russia will help each other in Libya. They'll try to help Haftar reconquer all of Libya and defeat the Tripoli-based Turkish-backed Islamists.

Egypt remains a swing state. Secular rule will ensure that Egypt remains closer to the likes of the UAE and Russia than to the likes of Iran, Iraq and Turkey. But an Islamist takeover of Egypt, which I personally think is highly possible in the next couple of years, will pull Egypt closer to Turkey and Iran.

I personally think the Muslim Brotherhood is still strong and organized enough to retake Egypt and even your country, Tunisia. I personally hope this doesn't happen since I prefer secularism to Islamism. But as I see it, the situation in Egypt is very fragile and another revolution is probably just around the corner.

The Emiratis know this very well, which is why they're extremely worried about the situation in Egypt. The Emiratis have already expressed their disapproval of the way the money they sent to Egypt has been mismanaged by el-Sisi and his government. The Emiratis were hoping that their investments in Egypt would quickly turn the country's economy around and help silence dissent, but this hasn't happened yet. On the contrary, the Egyptian leadership hasn't learned anything from past mistakes and is continuing to mismanage its finances. If el-Sisi doesn't fix his country's economy in the next couple of years, then I won't be surprised if the Islamists return to power before 2020, in which case Egypt will shift away from the Gulf and get closer to Turkey.



What a bunch of bullshit, UAE is not a Secular Nationalist country.

The competence of Sharia Courts has been limited by presence of Civil and Criminal Courts. In some Emirates, particularly Abu Dhabi, however, Sharia law came to apply to all types of civil and commercial disputes, capital criminal offences and matters of personal status. Each of the seven federal Emirates maintains a parallel system of Sharia Courts proper to it.[5]

Flogging is a punishment for certain criminal offences (such as adultery, and alcohol consumption by Muslims)[6][7][8][9] and it is applicable to both genders. Between 2007 and 2014, many people in the UAE were sentenced to 100 lashes.[10][11][12][13][14][15][16][17][18]

Stoning is a legal punishment under Sharia. Between 2009 and 2013, several people were sentenced to death by stoning.[13][19][20]



Abortion[edit]
Abortion is illegal and carries a sentence of one to five years in prison and/or a fine (around 2722 US Dollars).[34]


Apostasy[edit]
Apostasy is a crime punishable by death in the UAE.[39][40] Blasphemy is illegal, expats involved in insulting Islam are punished by deportation.[41] UAE incorporates hudud crimes of Sharia into its Penal Code - apostasy being one of them.[42] Article 1 and Article 66 of UAE's Penal Code requires hudud crimes to be punished with the death penalty,[42][43] therefore apostasy is punishable by death in the UAE.

Dress code violations[edit]
See also: Clothing in the United Arab Emirates
The UAE has a modest dress code. The dress code is part of Dubai's criminal law.[44] Most malls in the UAE have a dress code displayed at entrances.[45] At Dubai's malls, females should cover their shoulders and knees, therefore sleeveless tops and short shorts are not permitted.[45][46][47][48][49][50] However, the dress code is not strictly enforced in public places and it is very common to see people wearing all kinds of outfits at those places, especially in Dubai.

Homosexuality, display of public affection[edit]
Homosexuality is illegal: homosexuality is a capital offense in the UAE.[51][52] In 2014, an Emirati man was on trial for being accused of a "gay handshake".[52]

Kissing in public is illegal and can result in deportation.[53] Expats in Dubai have been deported for kissing in public.[54][55][56] In Abu Dhabi, two residents of Arab nationalities have been sentenced to 80 lashes for kissing in public.[57]

Other offenses[edit]
Article 1 of the Federal Penal Code states that "provisions of the Islamic Law shall apply to the crimes of doctrinal punishment, punitive punishment and blood money."[58] The Federal Penal Code repealed only those provisions within the penal codes of individual emirates which are contradictory to the Federal Penal Code. Hence, both are enforceable simultaneously.[59]

A new federal law in the UAE prohibits swearing in Whatsapp and penalizes swearing by a $68,061 fine and imprisonment,[60] expats are penalized by deportation.[60][61][62][63] In July 2015, an Australian expat was deported for swearing in Facebook.[64][65][66][67][68]

During the month of Ramadan, it is illegal to publicly eat, drink, or smoke between sunrise and sunset.[69] Exceptions are made for pregnant women and children. The law applies to both Muslims and non-Muslims,[69] and failure to comply results in arrest.[70]


Where is your sources that the UAE secretly supports Russia?
 
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What is wrong? Turkey and Iran are not friends. and never will be. :)
And I have 100 ids, not 30, get it right:lol:
You don't know the measure of my hate toward you guys. You have destroyed Iraq and Syria with lunatic wahhabi beheader jihadis for your neo ottoman goals. If I had power in Iran the first I would do is stopping export of gas and any goods to Turkey.
 
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You don't know the measure of my hate toward you guys. You have destroyed Iraq and Syria with lunatic wahhabi beheader jihadis. If I had power in Iran the first I would do is stopping exporting gas and any goods to Turkey.
Like I said , we have Azerbaijan and Turkmenistan for that, we don't need Iran.
Russia too of course. :)
 
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You don't know the measure of my hate toward you guys. You have destroyed Iraq and Syria with lunatic wahhabi beheader jihadis for your neo ottoman goals. If I had power in Iran the first I would do is stopping export of gas and any goods to Turkey.

I'm not defending any islamist ideaology , but strange that those particular 2 countries never been ruled by Islamist... Assad family for one and Sadam for the other, both of them were " secular" how strange... Those countries didn't need any jihadis or anything else ,Their respective leaders did that... on his own.... as a grown up :) . Don't put the fault on anyone, just accept that those shitty leaders where on stage.
Assad didn't wait alqaeda or Isis to kill his own ppl neither Saddam with the kurds or anyother minorities...
 
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Where was I racist , you idiot. Turkiye and Iran do not get on at all.
Getting me banned will not change this fact. :)
@atatwolf many of your comments are extremely sick racism, that's why you got permanently banned.

In this thread you cheered over death of Iraqis by Daesh and in another threads you have written many racism commets. I can't believe you cheered over casualties of Iraqis to show your turkish supremacy. Anyway you got permanently banned and I hope you get permanently banned again.

One more point, you are proud of Mongols, Chinese etc.... while they are not even common with 5% of your people! Much strange!
 
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@atatwolf many of your comments are extremely sick racism, that's why you got permanently banned.

In this thread you cheer over death of Iraqis by daesh and in another threads you have written many racism commets. I can't believe you cheered over casualties of Iraq's To show your turkish supremacy. Anyway you got permanently banned and I hope you get permanently banned again.
I am not Atatwolf. you spastic.
And show me where I cheered over Iraqi deaths you MAYMUN. You are just getting a little emotional because I said Turkey and Iran will never be in any sort of alliance . Get over it pal. :)
 
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