Will Consider India for NSG Membership: Germany

[mautkimaut]

First decide if it was korean,european or chinese nuke........... Till than go study the stolen candan nuclear reactor designs and russian help tht made india a nuclear power.

Abt motorcycles......Yes we make em.... so next time dont post crap.

Which Motorcycle does Pakistan makes?
All motor cycles are either imported from China or from India...

 

[Roybot]

Which Motorcycle does Pakistan makes?
All motor cycles are either imported from China or from India...

Pakistan doesn't import motorbikes from India. I think they have a Hero/Honda kinda set up, called Atlas-Honda. So yes they do make motorbikes.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Till now you are not able to made your own nuclear reactors but you have nuke bombs ????

Another failure of DRDO............

Khushab Nuclear reactor was Pakistans first indigenous nuclear reactor.
Khushab Nuclear Complex - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Just like you dnt have SLV but missiles.

SLV is an advanced tech than missile.......Though Pakistan is working on makin not just an SLV but also an MIRV.

Learn something for a change instead of posting ur crappy frustrated rants.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Which Motorcycle does Pakistan makes?
All motor cycles are either imported from China or from India...

Pakistan doesnt import motorcycles frm india.

Atlas Honda
Ravi
Sohrab
Ravi
Metro
Etc etc

 

[Varad]

Another failure of DRDO............

Khushab Nuclear reactor was Pakistans first indigenous nuclear reactor.
Khushab Nuclear Complex - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia





SLV is an advanced tech than missile.......Though Pakistan is working on makin not just an SLV but also an MIRV.

Learn something for a change instead of posting ur crappy frustrated rants.

We fielded SLV in 1980, its retired now. When is Pakistan planning to test SLV. All the best for it.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

We fielded SLV in 1980, its retired now. When is Pakistan planning to test SLV. All the best for it.

U recieved alot of help frm germany and USSR.

We remained under sanctions.

Dnt know abt the time frame but it was confirmed by Dr AQ Khan and Dr Samar Mubarak........During Ideas exibition 2 SLV models were seen............They probably eill use Shaheen III for the launch.

 

[Varad]

U recieved alot of help frm germany and USSR.

We remained under sanctions.

I disagree with you. But if you think we received help why dont you take it from China. India is already decades ahead, you should concentrate on space also.

 

[djmanj]

I think India's not signed the CTBT, precisely because it feels the need to do further tests.

Why hasn't your country ratified it? First let your country ratify it and lead the way and then you can have the bragging rights.

 

[justanobserver]

When you are signatory of NPT/CTBT then yes, the piece of paper will matter.....These are international agreements and not some joke.....

But point is we're not a signatory of NPT and CTBT.

NSG is not related to these regimes. Dunno why the confusion ?

 

[DarK-LorD]

Some members are frustrated I see.

 

[KALKI]

Some members are frustrated I see.

Who cares for them and their country?

 

[MilSpec]

Another failure of DRDO............

Khushab Nuclear reactor was Pakistans first indigenous nuclear reactor.
Khushab Nuclear Complex - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia





SLV is an advanced tech than missile.......Though Pakistan is working on makin not just an SLV but also an MIRV.

Learn something for a change instead of posting ur crappy frustrated rants.

The 50 MWt, heavy water and natural uranium research reactor at Khushab is a central element of Pakistan's program for production of plutonium and tritium for advanced compact warheads. The Khushab facility, like that at Kahuta, is not subject to IAEA inspections, but the security of the site is professed by the Pakistani government. Khushab, with a capacity variously reported at between 40 MWT to 50 MWT [and as high as 70 MWT], was "commissioned" in March 1996, and had been under construction with Chinese assistance since the mid-1980s. According to a Pakistani press report ["Pakistan's Indigenous Nuclear Reactor Starts Up," Islamabad The Nation, April 13, 1998], the Khushab plutonium production reactor had gone critical and began operating in early 1998.

Plutonium is the preferred material for building light, sophisticated warheads, since highly enriched uranium (HEU) generally results in bulkier weapons. Prior to the start-up of Khushab, Pakistan was dependent on the production of highly enriched uranium at Kahuta. The Khushab reactor provides Pakistan the ability to produce enough plutonium each year to fabricate at least one bomb, and perhaps as many as three to five bombs [depending on the efficiency of the bomb design and the reactor's actual output].
The actual plutonium output of Khushab is dependent on both the thermal power level, as well as the actual operating time. Pakistan's prior history of operating the Karachi Nuclear Power Plant (KANUPP), for many years Pakistan's only working nuclear power plant, suggests that the Khushab reactor may have a rather low operating availability. According to the International Atomic Energy Agency, the KANUPP lifetime energy availability factor (as of the end of 1997) was 28.6%, one of the worst performing nuclear power plants in the world. For the period 1989-1996 KANUPP�s capacity factor (the ratio of actual electrical production versus designed power) was only 34%. Although the CANDU reactor at KANUPP is of different design than Khushab, this history suggests that Khushab may produce substantially less plutonium than its theoretical capacity.

Pakistan initially sought to produce plutonium weapons, but these plans were frustrated with the 1977 cancellation by France of the planned sale of a reprocessing plant at Chasma. As of 1995 the US Government had no indication that Pakistan had the capability to reprocess plutonium.

According to a 14 September 1996 CIA report, the China Nuclear Energy Industry Corporation sold a special industrial furnace and high-tech diagnostic equipment. It was subsequently reported that the equipment was intended for the Khushab facility. High temperature furnaces are used to mold uranium or plutonium.

Pakistan succeeded in illicitly acquiring a tritium purification and storage plant, and tritium precursor materials from two German firms.

The United States apparently obtained a commitment from China not to supply the heavy water necessary to start up this unsafeguarded plutonium production reactor. But in March 1998 it was reported that China had supplied Pakistan with far more heavy water than needed to operate the safeguarded Kanupp nuclear power reactor, suggesting that Pakistan would be able to divert heavy water from the civilian plant to the Khushab military plant. Although these concerns received considerable political attention in the late 1990s, it is evident from IKONOS satellite imagery that the Khushab complex includes a heavy water production facility.

THERE GOES YOUR INDIGENOUSNESS

 

[CardSharp]

Your argument is where this article is hosted and not its content. Do you know who the author of the article is ?

Principal Scientific Adviser, Government of India

Here is the link to the journal since you don't trust "cheap html"

The May 1998 Pokhran tests: scientific aspects

Really just read the comment section, some of the Indians there say that they are government scientists too. You can see pretty clearly their reaction when challenged by other people's evidence (pretty much everyone in that debate has a PhD Indian or American)

This has become a political football in India, it's departed the realm of evidence and reality, they dare not to tell the public that your tests were a fizzles else they risk being lynched by the public and looking like a fool internationally.

(as for your criticizing my attack on the website, I've gone through that website when I arguing with someone else months back, it's crap, biased crap. It is the personal project of this one guy, Challney, who's the ex-government minister for an India state)

 

[CardSharp]

I don't have to be a secret agent to hold on to what I know. I can use my discretion to reveal only those that I deem fit to be written in a public forum. Instead of all these tangential discussions, let me see a point by point rebuttal of the link I posted.

Oh yeah this is textbook example of logical fallacy. Arguing from a source only you have access to is the same as an argumentum ad verecundiam, where instead of using the logic or evidence you simply appeal to privileged information, that doesn't form a part of your argument. I could similarly prove the existence of God by saying I have privileged information/evidence of his existence but because of I was sworen to secrecy I can't reveal to you but then you're going to have to take my word for it. The whole way this was argued is incredibly childish. The only people more absurd than you is people who would thank such a post thinking it was a good argument and perfectly logical.

God help India if they entrust a moron like you with a position of authority or privileged information.

 

[pakdefender]

Looking back now one thinks how much nicer it was that the fascists were shitting their pants in West Berlin as the bear was on the prowl in East Berlin but now that the bear has left the fascists are coming out of the woods once more.

We must help the bear so that it once more breaths down the necks of these fascists and puts them back in their place and this time the 'ones who gave the first blow' to the Berlin will had better stay put and not help out the fascists against the Bear.