Will China ever allow India to be part of the Nuclear Suppliers Group?

[Kinetic]

Is india still stuck with it..get over with NSG..
Yes China will allow definatily once Pak and india both are allowed no body wants to destabilize region..
Matter india cant attack Pak china is not attacking india and Pak is trying hard to improve its economy.. so i believe its better this way that india dont get arrificial powers in region.. hindu zionist are alot more dangerous than ISIS and taliban pakistan.

China not supporting India has nothing to do with Pakistan. Its because of own interest. China is Pakistan's best friend just because Pakistan thinks India is its biggest enemy.

 

[Laozi]

no one is giving a damn about eastern route yet ...... western route is must and is being worked on my military ..... eastern one is totally worked on by china and civils

OK In Fact

Best of Luck and Regards

 

[ThaniOruvan]

of course no one can .......... btw trust me sir west doesnot hold all the power ..... but they hold much ...

They do not hold all the power. They hold enough to help India get into places.
China doesn't and will not in future hold enough power to stop that.

I like your tall claims. First achieve some thing and then do the chest thumping.

The recent failure of India in getting the NSG membership should be enough to make Indians eyes open.
Had uncle SAM support was enough for india, then india would have got NSG membership long ago.

Remembe, America is not the whole world.

As I said in one of my replies India's application is not rejected but under process. Whereas Pakistan's was not even taken up despite your brother-bully's backing. That itself should show China and Pakistan's place. Keep closing your eyes and dream colorfully.

 

[ebrahym]

They do not hold all the power. They hold enough to help India get into places.
China doesn't and will not in future hold enough power to stop that

china of course do not hold all the power but china itself can get into places where india needs western help ...... and as i have stated above any act of discriminating china will cause a clear divide in the world as we saw during cold war as china has its own sphere of influence

 

[Rank]

What supowerism has to do with it. Earlier italy blocked India's entry, does that mean italy is supowerpower? Any member of NSG can block India's entry.

But the recent vote shows China is totally isolated and if they do not accept us than soon they will be through out of NSG. No country will support China.

India is not such important for countries like CHINA ... this is only BS of (ONLY) Indians and Indian media that China is isolated. entire world give shit about what Indians think! In fact your daddy US officials statements clearly evident that you're become a next child/tool of US - "US OFFICIALS contacted many members of NSG group to support India" "State department convince New Zealand etc etc and etc to support India in NSG" soo called supa puwaa lolli diplomacy

 

[ThaniOruvan]

china of course do not hold all the power but china itself can get into places where india needs western help ...... and as i have stated above any act of discriminating china will cause a clear divide in the world as we saw during cold war as china has its own sphere of influence

As I said, these are all unwanted arguments. If China doesn't want to be isolated then it must flow with the wind and work together with all countries. Antagonizing India just for the sake of a non-useful country like Pakistan will surely have its ramifications. Unlike Pakistan, India has friends in the West and a stable economy which will impact Chinese policy making.
I know about Chinese, they just do all those provocations and quietly do business with India. It is Pakistan which day dreams that China will always oppose India in favor of it.

 

[CorporateAffairs]

I think India is so envy and jealous of China's rise and want to stop China's rise with US and Japan and try to be obstructionism to China regarding SAARC membership so India can be the only big brother in South Asia.

India is envy of china's raise.

1. US is not the Sole Superpower anymore, don't bet too much on it.

For us, US is just a global player. We were never funded by them. Neither we depend on them.

US has limitations

Whats your point Buddy?

3. If India need a rise to its potential then first it has to accommodates its northern neighbor more than falling in line with US.

They accomodate us and we accomodate them. falling in line?

4. Otherwise more confrontation with China on US whims simply evaporates all India's energy foolishly.

We never confront with anyone, neither we meekly surrender to anyone in the viel of friendship. India is a responsible power, we will play our game on our terms.

5. If India persists allying with US against China, then in return he will make sure India always equated with Pakistan forever.

Who cares Buddy? We give a damm to China, we are not dependent on them for food. We may not be a global power, we reserve the right to react accordingly.

 

[ebrahym]

As I said, these are all unwanted arguments. If China doesn't want to be isolated then it must flow with the wind and work together with all countries. Antagonizing India just for the sake of a non-useful country like Pakistan will surely have its ramifications. Unlike Pakistan, India has friends in the West and a stable economy which will impact Chinese policy making.
I know about Chinese, they just do all those provocations and quietly do business with India. It is Pakistan which day dreams that China will always oppose India in favor of it.

sie we will take later but first you strongly need this

non-useful country

ever heard about CPEC

If China doesn't want to be isolated then it must flow with the wind

so they should even retreat from south china sea you saying???

China will always oppose India in favor of it

on this i cant argue

we will play our game on our terms

you can expect atleast chinese to do the same ........ have you ever watched jackie chan's movies .....???(just trying to cool down the tensed debate)

 

[dray]

Why do you consider LSA signatory to be violation of one's own sovereignty?

Both Pakistan and Sri Lanka had signed LSA with USA.

Guess you have utter contempt for Pakistanis and will go to any extant to vilify them, very unfortunate




Let for a second pretend USA is not China's "boss", given pdf Chinese members "sensitivities" on this

Let us assume none of the following ever happened :
1.USA having former colonial enclaves on Chinese soil,
2. USA blowing up Chinese embassy,
3. USA getting away with espionage and death of Chinese pilot,
4. and USA's continued interference in Chinese internal affairs in regard to Taiwan.

Funny thing is that the USA managed to coerce China into accepting India's NSG waiver, thereby making China compromise on its own national security. USA may not be China's "boss" in Chinese eyes, but USA surely seem to treat China like a vassal. For its own economic benefits using China as a tool.

How humiliating must it be to have USA compromising on Chinese national security during the century of humiliation and even during current times



China opposed India's NSG waiver as well.

Excellent post!!

We will get into NSG soon, even if it means China is thrown out of it. China is a loner in international politics anyway, barring a couple of loner rogue friends. China has only two options left, either be accommodative or get squeezed.

 

[dadeechi]

I guess you found out too late that your new boss couldn't actually get you the NSG seat in the first place.

Yeah the new boss who always romanticized fighting the incumbent boss has end up fighting the future boss instead.

 

[greenwood]

Excellent post!!

We will get into NSG soon, even if it means China is thrown out of it. China is a loner in international politics anyway, barring a couple of loner rogue friends. China has only two options left, either be accommodative or get squeezed.

India hasn't the weight to push China make two options. On the contrary, India has only one option left, persuade China to allow it.

 

[dray]

India hasn't the weight to push China make two options. On the contrary, India has only one option left, persuade China to allow it.

Just stick around in this forum till this happens, it won't take long time....maybe by this year only.

 

[greenwood]

Just stick around in this forum till this happens, it won't take long time....maybe by this year only.

Can't bribe anyone, follow the rules.