WikiLeaks: Narendra Modi, the lone honest Indian politician

[sankranti]

So you basically have no statistics as usual - just gas and bad grammar. LOL - please continue making a complete fool of yourself - your comments do lighten the mood in a serious discussion - it is like having Johnny Lever in a serious movie for comic relief. hahahahahaha

Not that you ever had an iota of credibility but at least try and back up your wild claims - your BBC link does not tell us the % of Muslims in the underworld. LOL - come on child - come up with some statistics.

LOL ......back to begging for statistics.....let me give you statistics even though I know you cannot understand its significance. It will at least help others see how 'secular' congress is

While making up nearly 14% of the total population of the country,Muslims account for 40% of India's prison population. Surely you cannot blame Modi for t his

But I am going to follow Kazhugu sane advice and ignore any more attempt by you to derail this thread

 

[Kazhugu]

My point wasn't specific to the riots, it was a comment on how every imagined crime of Nehru-Gandhi family is passed of as proof when they have not been convicted in the SC or any other courts while that argument is used to protest Modi's innocence. That smacks of double standards, to me at least.

but other than the riots what is the alleged blot on modi's name..? i'm sure when we discuss modi's failings we all are discussing about the 2002 riots.....

btw i'm sure you would agree when I say that 2g scam, coal block scam, common wealth games scam and all the other numerous scams and the general ineptitude, inaction and arrogance of the congress party are not "imagined crimes".

there is no double standard in this......

now when the double standard would come in is if I start accusing rahul gandhi of rape or sonia gandhi of being complicit in rajiv's killing....i guess there are various "news" about that floating around....but they would be just rumors, like modi's role in the riots until they are convicted......

its as simple as that.......

I disagree with you. Whatever the faults of the man, the woman was simply collateral damage. Targeting family members when targeting a terrorist may be okay but doing that for a case like this is not acceptable.

it was terribly unlucky of her to be travelling with him that day......and this is assuming that she was innocent and not complicit in the crimes he committed.....

im sure you would know how indian forces fight terrorism in kashmir, north east and how KPS gill fought the terror in punjab.......

Also the reasons for the killing were not to improve the law & order situation in Gujarat, it was to help those targeted by that man for extortion. What the inducement to deal with this matter was is open to speculation. Not a simple case.

doesnt matter for what he was killed.....a terrorist was killed..period....al capone was arrested for tax evasion....but i guess nobody complained.....that the nature of the game.....

 

[Icewolf]

While making up nearly 14% of the total population of the country,Muslims account for 40% of India's prison population.

Thank you for admitting this.

Indian Muslims need liberation from facist India

 

[sankranti]

C'mon, he resigned the day after the CBI charged him with kidnapping & murder. His anticipatory bail was rejected & he faced arrest. Nothing to do with good faith, I'm afraid.

EVERY state in India without exception has extra judicious killing, but Non of their Home Ministers are charged for it. Hell P Chiddu is complicit in killing as Home Minister so is Pranab da....how come there are no charges against them ?

Amit Shah is more than unlucky .....he has been viciously attacked by the congress controlled Media, Congress controlled judiciary and the discredited CBI for being in the RSS and BJP. Its a clear open and shut case.

Hell ....50% of Maoist killed or Terrorist killed are civilians. There are enough colateral damage left right and center .... except for Amit Shah, no one has EVER even been charged ...forget about being made to resign and undergoing trial by media fire and Judicial activism. The same Judiciary keep silent on other police killings .....even the Supreme court is quite .

 

[Kazhugu]

meanwhile, in congress camp they are busy using the CBI to water down the case in the coal gate scam....

Coalgate: Congress abuse of CBI getting more brazen | Firstpost

 

[Bang Galore]

but other than the riots what is the alleged blot on modi's name..? i'm sure when we discuss modi's failings we all are discussing about the 2002 riots.....

btw i'm sure you would agree when I say that 2g scam, coal block scam, common wealth games scam and all the other numerous scams and the general ineptitude, inaction and arrogance of the congress party are not "imagined crimes".

there is no double standard in this......

You are talking government scams. I'm talking about allegations against individuals outside government.

doesnt matter for what he was killed.....a terrorist was killed..period....al capone was arrested for tax evasion....but i guess nobody complained.....that the nature of the game.....

I have seen no evidence that he was a terrorist, he was a scumbag to be sure but the reason for his killing is not unimportant. If it was as a deal then that would be corruption of the highest level. As far as Al Capone goes, he was arrested legitimately, not bumped off. No comparison.

Thank you for admitting this.

Indian Muslims need liberation from facist India

We await your arrival with a "liberation" army or would you rather prefer to be safe & spew your rubbish here?

 

[sankranti]

I disagree with you. Whatever the faults of the man, the woman was simply collateral damage. Targeting family members when targeting a terrorist may be okay but doing that for a case like this is not acceptable.

And you are the one accusing others of 'Double Standards' ?

What more need to be said !!

 

[anonymus]

LOL ......back to begging for statistics.....let me give you statistics even though I know you cannot understand its significance. It will at least help others see how 'secular' congress is

While making up nearly 14% of the total population of the country,Muslims account for 40% of India's prison population. Surely you cannot blame Modi for t his

But I am going to follow Kazhugu sane advice and ignore any more attempt by you to derail this thread

The statistics you have provides proves nothing and are tangential to your assertion that muslims are biggest gangsters in Gujarat.


Majority of Prison population consist of people caught for petty crimes like stealing etc. and has shown positive correlation with both educational level and poverty.

Tough on poverty, tough on crime | Toronto Star

The Relationship Between Crime and Poverty in Black Antebellum Boston

Falling Education Rates Leading to Higher Prison Populations, More Poverty

New research shows precisely how the prison-to-poverty cycle does its damage. - Slate Magazine

Congress is known to play dirty tricks on it's opponent but let's not mix up issues here.

 

[sankranti]

The statistics you have provides proves nothing and are tangential to your assertion that muslims are biggest gangsters in Gujarat.

You should be saying this to your friend Jack@$$ or was it Jackdraws ...he is the one asking for statistics. Dont assign assertions to me that I have not specifically stated. I gave an example and a positive one at that showing how Guj. Muslims are now joining the police force in large numbers which is greater than their actual share in the population. Where a life of crime seemed like a good option is now replaced by a desire to serve the law and society.

Majority of Prison population consist of people caught for petty crimes like stealing etc. and has shown positive correlation with both educational level and poverty.

Which is exactly what Modi has proven by reducing poverty and ensuring education. That is why Modi is a great Muslim Leader. You are just proving my point.

 

[Bang Galore]

And you are the one accusing others of 'Double Standards' ?

What more need to be said !!

Good that you have nothing to say, keep moving.

 

[sankranti]

Good that you have nothing to say, keep moving.

.... foot in mouth ? I have plenty to say ....you have not been reading this thread closely enough. Anyway back to topic.....

 

[anonymus]

You should be saying this to your friend Jack@$$ or was it Jackdraws ...he is the one asking for statistics. Dont assign assertions to me that I have not specifically stated. I gave an example and a positive one at that showing how Guj. Muslims are now joining the police force in large numbers which is greater than their actual share in the population. Where a life of crime seemed like a good option is now replaced by a desire to serve the law and society.



Which is exactly what Modi has proven by reducing poverty and ensuring education. That is why Modi is a great Muslim Leader. You are just proving my point.

If that is happening, well and good.

Frankly i have seen deep rooted hostility that some people have for muslim and to some extent christians ans sikhs (Although much lower ). Integrating muslims in society has to start from lower level where fulfilling basic need would make a lot of difference.

 

[Lankan Ranger]

http://www.defence.pk/forums/world-affairs/245688-gujarat-gateway-india-fact-farce.html

 

[Jackdaws]

so what ?

an underworld goon who has couple of dozen cases including national security act on his name, a goodn from whom hundreds of kilos of rdx, dozens of assault rifles and thousands of rifle rounds were recovered during 93 blasts, a goon who has links with dawood, a goon who used to extort people for money was shot.....cry me a river about it....i dont give a ****....for me a burden on india was lessened...shame on those trying to castigate amit shah for that......how is that any different from people advocating using RAW to take down dawood...?

he was a very efficient home minister under whose supervision the ahmedabad blasts were solved in just 21 days - a record of sorts - and whose solving helped expose the flanks of indian mujahedin......at the time when the union home minister had time to change multiple clothes when one of the biggest terrorist attacks was going on..he was a welcome change.....




no the CBI is completely neutral and is independent of political motives.....thats why they did not raid the house of mk stalin on the morning dmk withdrew support and they absolutely have no role in keeping mulayam and mayawati in check and they did not submit their report on the coal scam to be vetted by the same government they are supposedly investigating....seriously ? you brought in CBI to support your point ?....

Hmm - that is precisely the problem. You are fine with using an extra judicial process to kill a criminal. I don't blame you - many Indians see it as a great way to circumvent a glacial judicial process. But there is an inherent danger in giving such power to cops. How can anyone ever justify killing innocents to cover your "encounter"? And then once you get away with it - what's to stop you from going on a spree?

Truth is out: Ishrat's mother - The Hindu

The guy who killed Sohrabuddin also decided to kill 4 others in a staged encounter. The biggest problem for me is that the Gujarat Government backed these killers to the hilt in every conceivable court.

 

[Jackdaws]

The statistics you have provides proves nothing and are tangential to your assertion that muslims are biggest gangsters in Gujarat.


Majority of Prison population consist of people caught for petty crimes like stealing etc. and has shown positive correlation with both educational level and poverty.

Tough on poverty, tough on crime | Toronto Star

The Relationship Between Crime and Poverty in Black Antebellum Boston

Falling Education Rates Leading to Higher Prison Populations, More Poverty

New research shows precisely how the prison-to-poverty cycle does its damage. - Slate Magazine

Congress is known to play dirty tricks on it's opponent but let's not mix up issues here.

Don't worry about @sankranti - he is yet to make a single sensible post. He can't tell the difference between the underworld and petty criminals, can't tell the difference between riots before independence and after independence, struggles to understand the concept of a cult and can't give a single source to back up his absurd claims. He is clearly completely out of his depth here - the simple chap even refers to "extra judicial" as "extra judicious" - LOL - and now he claims it is all a Congress conspiracy - the Congress controls the media, the judiciary, the CBI - only thing left is for him to say the Congress controls the Obama Administration - assuming he knows who Obama is. LOL.