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Islamic nationalism

As for this term that you used, it could not be more wrong, firstly it was Muslim nationalism and it was consolidated by multiple Muslims sects of India.

The men who made the Pakistan movement were neither Islamists nor extremists. They did not use Islam for popular support, they were not a part of the Khilafat movement, something Jinnah and Iqbal opposed. They did not encourage Islamic parties to be politically active, nor did they funded Islamic parties like the Ahrar.

The people who had a hand in creating Pakistan were modern men who were equipped with the best of the west too, not some Khudai Khidmatyar kind who were focused on the old ways of Jihad.

Jinnah, Iqbal, Zafarullah, Rehmat Ali, Mohammed Shafi, Shahnawaz Bhutto, Agha Khan, Shaukat Hayat, Liaqat Ali, Suharwady etc were not Islamic nationalists but Muslim nationalists who wanted to create a progressive Muslim nation free of Arab imperialism.

This is why the likes of Jamaat Islami Hind, Deobandi, Khudai Khidmatyar, Majlis Ahrar and such extremist types opposed the creation of Pakistan.
 
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Is there more to WikiLeaks
than meets the eye?

by Rahnuma Ahmed



THE release of US diplomatic cables by WikiLeaks on November 29—dubbed the ‘9/11 of world diplomacy’—was immediately criticised by America’s political and military leadership. WikiLeaks will cost (American) lives, said Bill Clinton. Sarah Palin blasted Obama for WikiLeaks.
Similar denunciations had occurred earlier. When WikiLeaks released the Afghan War Diary in July this year, a cache of 91,000 documents, covering the war from 2004 to 2010. When WikiLeaks released another cache in October, nearly 400,000 secret US files on the Iraq war, the largest classified military leak in history. When it posted a video on its website in April, showing a US Apache helicopter killing at least 12 innocent people, including two Reuters journalists, in an attack in Baghdad in July 2007.
Robert Gates, the US defence secretary, said he was ‘appalled’ while the Joint Chiefs Chairman Admiral Mike Mullen said WikiLeaks ‘might already have on their hands the blood of some young soldier or that of an Afghan family.’ The Afghan War Diary was denounced by human rights organisations too, including Amnesty International. The international press freedom organisation Reporters Without Borders said it was ‘irresponsible’, it sets a ‘bad precedent for the Internet’s future.’ The names of Afghan informants had not been redacted, leaving them vulnerable to Taliban retaliation.
Initial denunciations have now been replaced by harsher calls centring around the whistle-blowing website’s founder, Julian Assange, a 39 year-old Australian journalist, publisher and activist. Variously described as ‘charismatic’, possessing ‘an exceptional ability to crack computer codes’ and ‘mercurial in interviews’, demands to hunt him down just like al-Qaeda (Sarah Palin), to declare WikiLeaks a terrorist group and prosecute Assange (Representative Peter King)—are being replaced by murderous ones. He should be tried for treason and executed if found guilty (Republican presidential hopeful Mike Huckabee). He should be hit by a drone (political commentator Bill O’Reilly). He should be assassinated (Professor Tom Flanagan, adviser to the Canadian prime minister).
On December 1, Interpol issued a Red Notice for Assange. He was wanted for questioning in Sweden over alleged sex offences. Assange had visited Stockholm in August to defend WikiLeaks’ decision to publish the Afghan War Diary; while there, an arrest warrant had been issued by Swedish authorities against allegations of rape and sexual molestation. The charge of rape was later dropped; the warrant, too, was hastily withdrawn. The accusations had separately been brought by two women, sex had been ‘consensual’ but Assange seems to have violated a Swedish law against having sex without a condom; he had used a condom on one occasion but it had split, on another, he had not. One of the women, afraid of catching STD wanted him to take a medical test, which he reportedly refused. He was finally charged with something called ‘sex by surprise’, this carries a fine of $715. Assange admitted having sex but the charges are ‘without basis’. The timing was ‘deeply disturbing’. It was aimed at smearing him. It was possibly initiated by the CIA or Pentagon.
Interestingly, the recent WikiLeaks release mentions Sweden’s close ties to the US military which, as the American ambassador to Sweden notes, ‘give the lie to the official policy’ of non-participation in military alliances. This should remain a secret, he wrote, or else it would open the way for ‘domestic criticism’.
The rising hysteria over Assange/WikiLeaks has led many among the western public, including well-respected figures known for their opposition to the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, to extend their support. Pentagon Papers whistle-blower Daniel Ellsberg, himself the target of a White House hit squad in 1972, has said Assange is serving American democracy and the American rule of law precisely by challenging secrecy regulations. He called for a boycott of Amazon after it terminated hosting the WikiLeaks website. WikiLeaks must be protected, writes John Pilger; the Afghanistan war logs and the hounding of Assange prove that there’s never been a greater need to speak truth to power than today. Anti-war activist Cindy Sheehan, whose son was killed in service during the Iraq war, and Medea Benjamin of Code Pink: Women for Peace, urge US cities to offer Assange sanctuary. The government should desist in prosecuting Assange, or pressure Sweden in doing so, or sabotage WikiLeaks servers. Republican senator Ron Paul, often in opposition to fellow members for his libertarian beliefs, argues that the WikiLeaks founder should get the same protection as the media. Scoffing at the idea of an Australian being tried for treason in America, Paul asks, ‘why don’t we prosecute The New York Times or anybody else that releases this?’
But there are others, equally courageous and just as passionately opposed to the wars in Afghanistan, Iraq (and Palestine), who view WikiLeaks and Assange, differently. Who argue that what has been presented has been cherry-picked, that the data presented is selective. That the consistent absence of particular actors is more telling than those who have been presented on the world stage through the leaks.
In other words, do the releases benefit anyone, if so, who? Cui bono?
Alan Hart, author, a former ITN and BBC Panorama foreign correspondent specialising in the Middle East, writes, if a visitor from outer space studied the WikiLeaks revelations of the first two days, she or he would come to the conclusion that,
‘The main message is clear. Iran is the biggest single threat to the peace of the region and the world and not only because the Israelis say so. Arab leaders agree with them. The secondary message is that apart from the Arab leaders who say they share Israel’s assessment, other Muslim leaders, those in Turkey and Pakistan especially, are not to be trusted.’
Cui bono? Hart says, the Zionist state of Israel. It is possible that Assange has been ‘compromised’ in some manner, that he is open to ‘manipulation’. Assange’s denial of 9/11 truth is surprising—‘I’m constantly annoyed that people are distracted by false conspiracies such as 9/11, when all around we provide evidence of real conspiracies, for war or mass financial fraud’—given the ‘irrefutable evidence’ that the Twin Towers were not brought down by the planes and their burning fuel.
Hart, and also others, point toward similar suspicions raised by Zbigniew Brzezinski, President Carter’s National Security Advisor. In a recent interview to PBS, Brzezinski said, ‘The real issue is, who is feeding Wikileaks? They’re getting a lot of information which seems trivial, inconsequential, but some of it seems surprisingly pointed… It’s a question of whether Wikileaks are being manipulated by interested parties that want to either complicate our relationship with other governments or want to undermine some governments… I have no doubt that Wikileaks is getting a lot of the stuff from sort of relatively unimportant sources, like the one that perhaps is identified on the air. But it may be getting stuff at the same time from interested intelligence parties who want to manipulate the process and achieve certain very specific objectives.’
Perceptive bloggers have pointed out how Israel is unharmed by the leaks, how Mossad and RAW are noticeably absent despite being very active in occupied war-torn Afghanistan and Iraq. Others have wondered why both the Guardian and The New York Times chose to leak the portion about Iran first, out of the 200,000 documents. Interestingly enough, the NYT article was co-authored by David Sanger, a ‘major conveyor’ of American administration propaganda before Gulf War II.
The leaks seem to be a result of systematic work, purposively intentioned, says the Turkish president, while the deputy prime minister asks, ‘Documents were released and they immediately said, “Israel will not suffer from this.” How did they know that?’ A columnist for a pro-government Turkish newspaper writes, some people want to ‘drive the Obama administration in a different direction,’ they want to ‘adjust the relations of many governments with the US.’ They want to corner Turkey both in domestic and international politics, to show that Turkey is ‘alone’ in defending Iran in the region. The cables, writes another columnist, seem to be part of a psychological campaign. In China, the English-language tabloid Global Times which belongs to the ruling communist party’s newspaper, the People’s Daily, asks in its lead editorial, ‘Is there some tacit understanding between the Web site and the US government?’ implying actual government complicity in the leaks.
Gordon Duff, senior editor of Veterans Today, wonders why no one has found the magic Wikileaks ‘treehouse’ with dozens of elves sifting through documents, when the NSA and a dozen other agencies can pick the stroke on his computer the second they hit, can tap 200 million telephones, kidnap a woman off the streets of Karachi with a two-minute phone request. Is it plausible?
It is widely believed that Wikileaks got the classified video of US troops killing Iraqi civilians in Baghdad and 260,000 pages of confidential diplomatic cables and intelligence assessments from Bradley Manning, a 22 year-old American soldier stationed in Baghdad who, as an intelligence specialist in the US army, had access to these, read them, became disillusioned about his country’s foreign policy and ‘used blank CDs to download classified information while pretending to be listening to Lady Gaga.’ Manning was caught because he boasted of the leaks to a former hacker, who turned him over to the US authorities. He has been in custody since May, has been charged with transferring classified data; if convicted, he could face a prison sentence of between 50 to 70 years.
The PBS interviewer had tried to sell the Bradley Manning ‘myth’ to Brzezinski, ‘But a lot of these documents have been in the hands—haven’t they been in the hands of WikiLeaks for some time?’ His reply was, ‘We don’t know that for a fact.’ When she said, ‘… because of— because of this private who is in jail and accused, Army private?’ the other interviewee on the programme, Stephen Hadley (National Security Advisor to George W Bush), responded, ‘We don’t know it!’
The more important question is, is there any evidence that anyone else—besides Wikileaks—has accessed US government’s classified files? Former AIPAC foreign policy chief Steven Rosen, in a civil lawsuit filed in March 2009, reportedly fired for being caught spying against the US, says his actions were common practice at AIPAC. That masses of classified information come to AIPAC and Israel continually, that Washington’s major pro-Israeli lobbying group receives it approvingly, that it praises and financially rewards those who handle and channel it. Another former AIPAC employee, Douglas Broomfield, who was chief lobbyist says, AIPAC is not a classified information bazaar, rather, a covert foreign agent for governments bent on thwarting US brokered peace deals. This makes them, Duff writes, ‘suspect #1 for being the source of Wikileaks.’ Wikileaks are nothing but ‘the scraps, the chickenfeed, left over from a major spy organization that accessed real secrets, nuclear weapons, war plans.’ He adds, Wikileaks will never release any of the highest number of classified White Papers to have been written in the Pentagon, ‘How Israel is Endangering the United States.’
Assange’s role model for world leader is... Benjamin Netanyahu, Israeli prime minister. Speaking of him approvingly, Assange said, ‘leaders should speak in public like they do in private whenever they can.’ Netanyahu returned the compliment, ‘Israel has not been damaged at all by the WikiLeaks publication.’
Not only is consent manufactured, in the present world, dissent, too, is manufactured. There have been colour ‘revolutions’, courtesy of billionaire George Soros, and now, we have the lone ranger resurrected, suitable to fit the needs of a technocratic age: a whistle-blowing, crusading truth-seeker, hacking computers to ‘out’ deceptions in the high echelons of world power. Welcome to the dis-information highway.
 
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Slight correction, the western powers were highly impressed by the western minded leaders of the Pakistan movement and an army that had consistent admirable success against adversaries that we had in common with the west.

The army was built-up by the west post-1947. However, the decision to create Pakistan was taken earlier.

Knowing that such a Muslim nation would be an advantage in the region, the western powers threw full support behind Pakistan.

This one can agree with.

The men who made the Pakistan movement were neither Islamists nor extremists. They did not use Islam for popular support, they were not a part of the Khilafat movement, something Jinnah and Iqbal opposed. They did not encourage Islamic parties to be politically active, nor did they funded Islamic partied like the Ahrar.

The people who had a hand in creating Pakistan were modern men who were equipped with the best of the west too, not some Khudai Khidmatyar kind who were focused on the old ways of Jihad.

Jinnah, Iqbal, Zafarullah, Rehmat Ali, Mohammed Shafi, Shahnawaz Bhutto, Agha Khan, Shaukat Hayat, Liaqat Ali, Suharwady etc were not Islamic nationalists but Muslim nationalists who wanted to create a progressive Muslim nation free of Arab imperialism.

I would say that the people you name above are incidental. The people who really created Pakistan are men like Churchill, Wavell, Caroe and Atlee. They found suitable tools for their purpose.

And Islamist rabble-rousing was certainly used very extensively by the Pakistan movement. From the obituary of Jinnah published by the Time magazine -

He joined the Congress Party and for a while worked for Hindu-Moslem unity. In 1921, he abandoned the Congress to build the Moslem League and to work for a separate government for Indian Muslims. The walls of his meeting halls blazed with such slogans as: "Make the blood of slaves boil with the force of faith!" and "Make the small sparrow fight the big hawk!" He would stalk into meetings wearing his "political uniform"—native dress with a black astrakhan cap—and whip the Muslims into a frenzy. Sometimes, in his fury, his monocle would pop out of its socket. After meetings, he would go home, change to Western clothes and be again the suave Western lawyer.

PAKISTAN: That Man - TIME

The book "The Shadow of the Great Game – The Untold Story of India’s Partition" by the ADC to Mountbatten, gives insight into the behind-the-scenes maneuvers that culminated in Pakistan -

Jinnah, it is revealed, also had secret correspondence with Churchill during the war and thereafter. The details of this correspondence are not known, except that Jinnah sought his help in reigning in the Viceroys in Delhi and promised support to Britain after independence to make the case for Pakistan. Jinnah’s cooperation with the British dovetailed with their efforts to carve out a friendly sphere of influence in the North West. It is also possible that he received advice to be intransigent during negotiations with the Congress, because the reward would be his Pakistan. This he proceeded to do with great flourish, with tacit British support behind the scenes.

Field Marshall Wavell, Viceroy of India, 1943-47, and predecessor of Mountbatten concluded that India had to be partitioned to preserve British interests, and even drew maps (eerily similar to the Sir Cyrill Radcliff division of India) as early as 1946 that showed the desired boundary demarcation. Sarila writes, “While in London, Wavell, on 31 August 1945, called on Churchill. According to Wavell's account: 'He warned me that the anchor [himself] was now gone and I was on a lee shore with rash pilots...His final remark, as I closed the door of the lift was: "keep a bit of India."'. Churchill, no longer Prime Minister, believed that the Attlee government, then in power, having decided to grant India independence, was not in favor of Partition and would sacrifice British interests in their haste to grant freedom to India. Attlee, who served as Churchill’s deputy in the War Cabinet and the Defence Committee during the Second World War, was fully alive to British interests.
Indeed, under Attlee, Britain's position at this stage (August, 1945) could be summarized as follows:

1. The British military was emphatic on the value of retaining its base for defensive and offensive action against the USSR
2. Wavell was quite clear that this objective could not be achieved [except] through partition - keeping a bit of India-because the Congress Party after independence would not cooperate with Britain on military and strategic matters;
3. While Labour leaders did not agree with Wavell that all was lost with the Congress Party, Attlee was, nonetheless, ready to support the division of India as long as the responsibility could not be attributed to Britain

Britain, then proceeded to assiduously implement this policy, through both the Churchill and Attlee governments. Mountbatten inherited this policy that Wavell had helped formulate. This policy necessitated that the corridor running from Baluchistan, Sind (for the port of Karachi), NWFP, northern Kashmir to Sinkiang be placed under a friendly regime. At the same time, Britain did not want to place any more territory than minimally necessary to serve their strategic interests.


The British had a few hurdles to overcome:

1. Jinnah had to be installed as the ‘sole spokesman’ of India’s Muslims, even though the Muslim League could muster only two governments in the five provinces of India that the League demanded to be part of Pakistan in the 1946 elections (Bengal and Sind – the latter being possible only through a tie-breaker vote cast by the British governor of Sind). Significantly, Muslim League could not form governments in Punjab (Unionists), NWFP (Congress), and Assam (Congress).
2. Jinnah had to be made to accept a truncated Pakistan with partitioned Punjab and Bengal
3. NWFP, which had a Congress ministry in 1946 and a 95% Muslim population, had to be made part of Pakistan
4. Congress Party had to be persuaded to join the British Commonwealth
5. The Americans, who favored a united India, had to be persuaded that the Partition was the only inevitable outcome given ‘Hindu-Muslim’ question
6. The blame for Partition had to rest with Indians, not the British


On each of the above issues, the British succeeded brilliantly. They continuously raised the smokescreen of protection of Muslim rights and gave Jinnah an effective veto on all proposals not acceptable to the League. The Cabinet Mission Plan was used successfully to persuade Indians (and world opinion) that the Partition was the only reasonable outcome. These helped Jinnah position himself as the ‘sole spokesman’. Jinnah was persuaded to accept a truncated Pakistan by Mountbatten who basically told Jinnah that if didn’t accept Partition, there would be no Pakistan. The Cabinet Mission Plan, by providing an alternative to Partition, also persuaded Jinnah to accept a smaller Pakistan. Nehru/Patel were tempted to swallow the bitter pill of losing NWFP by being promised a quick transfer of power. The Congress stabbed the Khudai Khidmatgars and Dr. Khan Sahib, Chief Minister, NWFP by agreeing to a unique referendum that was not implemented in any other British province, even though Congress already had the peoples’ mandate in 1946. Congress then boycotted the referendum, and the fate of NWFP was decided by a narrow margin of 50.28% of the electorate. Thus, NWFP was handed to Pakistan without a contest by the thinnest of margins. Had the Congress and the Khudai Khidtmgars (they boycotted for fear of violence by the Muslim League) contested the elections, NWFP may well have voted for India and Pakistan would have been stillborn. Congress agreed to join the Commonwealth after Mountbatten promised all his help in integrating the princely states in India. The British, to their credit, even as they assisted in the birth of Pakistan, ensured that what remained of India was consolidated by the accession of the princely states to it.

Chowk: History: Book Review: The Shadow of the Great Game - The Untold Story of India's Partition

This support turned our otherwise difficult to sustain nation into an Asian dream within a decade ...

It is true that Pakistan has been difficult to sustain, and has survived with generous foreign assistance, from 1947 until today.

The shortsightedness of our leader wrecked the dream but we are still supported and liked by the west, so if we correct ourselves, we can still attain the position we have been made for.

I suppose it is true that if you fulfill the goals for which Pakistan was created by men like Churchill, you will continue to be liked and supported by the west.
 
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In cables from Pakistan, U.S. officials struggle for leverage
By Karin Brulliard, The Washington Post


ISLAMABAD, Pakistan -- At a January 2008 meeting with the U.S. ambassador, former Pakistani Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif called himself pro-American and praised the U.S. government's move to "arrange" the naming of the new Pakistani army chief.

The candid conversation, unveiled in leaked cables published by WikiLeaks, has been splashed across Pakistani newspapers. Even in a nation of avid gossipers, evidence that Pakistani politicians held such revealing discussions with U.S. diplomats has been met with shock -- and held up as proof of American meddling and control.

But at the end of that same 2008 cable, then-U.S. Ambassador Anne Patterson wryly offered a different perspective on American power over Pakistan: "The fact that a former prime minister believes the U.S. could control the appointment of Pakistan's Chief of Army Staff," she wrote, "speaks volumes about the myth of American influence here."

Without doubt, the cables describe Pakistani leaders being far more friendly and open with U.S. envoys than they choose to act in public. But the cables also offer a window onto the limits of U.S. leverage over a prickly partner that rarely does the United States' bidding.

Over nearly a decade, the United States has given billions of dollars in military and civilian aid to Pakistan, an economically and politically unstable nuclear power that is battling an Islamist insurgency. Although U.S. officials say the relationship is not "transactional," Washington clearly wants certain outcomes in exchange for its aid: a vigorous Pakistani campaign against militants, a less volatile economy and secure routes for U.S. war-supply trucks bound for Afghanistan.

In the leaked cables, that mission comes across as a rarely rewarding diplomatic slog. As recently as last year -- eight years into the two nations' counterterrorism alliance -- then-Vice President-elect Joe Biden questioned whether they shared the "same enemy." Other U.S. officials expressed frustration over continued Pakistani tolerance of, or support for, militants attacking Afghanistan and India.

"The relationship is one of co-dependency we grudgingly admit -- Pakistan knows the U.S. cannot afford to walk away; the U.S. knows Pakistan cannot survive without our support," Ms. Patterson wrote in early 2009.

At a recent meeting with foreign journalists in Islamabad, a senior U.S. official acknowledged that the United States had little influence over economic reforms, but said security issues were a different matter. "It's not like they blow us off whenever we ask them for cooperation," the official said, adding that seeking "common goals" is the U.S. strategy. "They do things that they want to do that we want them to do."

Indeed, the embassy documents commend Pakistani military offensives in the northwest and note progress in intelligence sharing and military coordination along the Afghanistan-Pakistan border. An October 2009 dispatch reported that the Pakistan army had agreed to allow U.S. special forces to embed with its own border troops -- a move described by the embassy as "a sea change in Pakistani thinking," attributable to "patient relationship-building."

But such developments are overshadowed by cycles of U.S. requests for action countered by Pakistani requests for more money and understanding.

In 2009, U.S. cables featured concerns that Pakistan had tolerated an alliance of militants who attack U.S. soldiers in Afghanistan, that its army remained "fixated" on its nemesis, India, and that Pakistan had made little progress on U.S. requests that it curb financing for the domestic militant group Lashkar-e-Taiba or prosecute it for a 2008 attack in Mumbai.

By October 2009, Ms. Patterson appeared determined to dampen any hope in Washington that a new, multibillion-dollar civilian aid package would help persuade Pakistan to dismantle militant groups that it views as assets for influence in Afghanistan and against India.

"There is no chance that Pakistan will view enhanced assistance levels in any field as sufficient compensation for abandoning support to these groups," she wrote. Aid money, she added, should not "be viewed as a payoff for behavior change by the Pakistani establishment."
 
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The army was built-up by the west post-1947. However, the decision to create Pakistan was taken earlier.

It is a common saying that when the partition occured, Pakistan got the army while India got the civil servants. This army was built up over many years with a lot of work put into it. The Martial Races theory and the specific towns from where the men used to be selected was done for a reason. The army was ready and from Pakistan's inception, they had just defeated the Imperialistic Japanese forces in Asia, fought many others in the same region to considerable success. I know this because my family members were present when the Japanese were defeated in Singapore.

Asia: Ending the Suspense - TIME

This one can agree with.

Then also agree with the fact that it was supported becuase it could have been used to counter the Arabs and many other nations in the region.

I would say that the people you name above are incidental. The people who really created Pakistan are men like Churchill, Wavell, Caroe and Atlee. They found suitable tools for their purpose.

Nonsense, this is the usual rants one gets to hear but with no real proof behind it. The men I named were responsible for creating Pakistan, they proposed, manufactured and developed the idea. The people then threw their full support behind this idea that was demanded by the people.

Churchill, Wavell, Caroe and Atlee cannot convince millions of people to join a movement of this scale, it was all done by moderate and progressive leaders of British India.

And Islamist rabble-rousing was certainly used very extensively by the Pakistan movement. From the obituary of Jinnah published by the Time magazine -

Time Magazine was rabidly anti-Jinnah, you can tell by reading the articles on him which paint him as a cunning leader of sorts. This throws your theory of western push for Jinnah to create Pakistan. Similarly if Jinnah wanted Islamist rabble-rousing, he could have supported the Khilafat movement, selected the Mullahs of deoband, kicked out Ahmadi's from his party and many other things.

The fact remains that it was Gandhi who used Islam for political gains.

The book "The Shadow of the Great Game – The Untold Story of India’s Partition" by the ADC to Mountbatten, gives insight into the behind-the-scenes maneuvers that culminated in Pakistan -

Seems like India could never get over the partition, as for the book, please familiarise yourself with what others had to say about it.

The Shadow of the Great Game: The Untold Story of India’s Partition | Narendra Singh Sarila | Review by The Spectator

Perhaps a neutral and more factually correct book would have been a better source for reference. A book that reeks of anti-Pakistan sentiment and confused accounts is not a good source for any serious debate.

It is true that Pakistan has been difficult to sustain, and has survived with generous foreign assistance, from 1947 until today.

We did not get aid in the 70's and 90's but we stood through those difficult times. Developing countries remain dependent on aid until they reach a point of sustainability.

I suppose it is true that if you fulfill the goals for which Pakistan was created by men like Churchill, you will continue to be liked and supported by the west.

The goal of Pakistan is clear to Pakistani's, but to some Indians it would always be that Pakistan is there to hold back India.

Well keep beleiving what you want to beleive.
 
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Plugging the leak

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The writer is a standup comedian sami.shah@tribune.com.pk


WikiLeaks will not change the world and that will be its greatest tragedy. A few years from now, when Hollywood makes the movie about the fast-talking Julian Assange (starring Justin Bieber) and how, in a bid to impress a girl who wouldn’t go out with him, he revealed that most diplomats and world leaders are gossipy trash talkers, we will all nod and go “oh yeah, I remember that vaguely, now let’s watch it in 3D.” Sure, over the next few weeks we will continue to pore over the leaked documents, or at least the few choice paragraphs that local newspapers will poorly misquote. The info revealed here appeals to the same poorly evolved reptilian part of our brain that still scours the web looking for new celebrity scandals and inadvertent cleavage. I, myself, have spent the last two days overloading Google’s servers with searches for Colonel Gaddafi’s apparently voluptuous Ukranian nurse. For journalistic research purposes I assure you.

That said, Assange’s most marked legacy, other than to make any future diplomatic meetings extremely awkward, is that he almost, quite nearly, made me like President Zardari. It was a brief moment I assure you, measured in nanoseconds, but it happened. I can’t quite put in words how it made me feel, so shocked was my system by what was occurring within it, but I know that I was left with a deep sense of self-loathing followed by a need to curl up and cry. If this is how Fauzia Wahab and other PPP-Z cronies feel all the time, then they have my deepest sympathies. I understand your suffering now.

What caused this scientific near-impossibility to occur? How did the universe betray all its laws and rules to allow such an abomination to take place? Why did my thoughts defy all logic, rationality and reason to consider our president in a positive light? The blame can only fall on Saudi King Abdullah. By insulting Zardari he, inadvertently, offered the highest praise. After all, if the monarch at the helm of a human rights disaster that daily defecates on free speech and minority rights and is essentially the interest-free credit card for al Qaeda and the Taliban, thinks Zardari is “rotten” then he can’t be all that bad. I would much rather have a president that King Abdullah hates, than one that he loves.

In an ideal world, Pakistanis would see how terrible is a Saudi government that goes easy on terrorism, encourages attacks against Iran and withholds funds from Pakistan while waging singular war on our Houbara Bustard population. We would shun them and their brand of toxic beliefs, demand our armed forces stop behaving like the King’s personal military retinue and expel al Qaeda and Taliban from our borders instead of playing that exhausting game of “my Taliban is different from your Taliban.” Maybe we would even take the time out to reconsider how badly Saudi influence has affected our society, give Sherry Rehman the support she deserves and amend the blasphemy law, thus saving an innocent woman’s life.

But none of that will happen. We are all so devoid of influence on matters of import that even such blatant exposure will have no effect on the long-term strategies of power players. America, Israel and Saudi Arabia will continue to build towards a military assault on Iran. We will continue to let our intelligence agencies provide a nurturing teat to the Taliban. Saudi influence in Pakistan will further erode all semblance of religious tolerance and development of non-extremist forms of Islam and religious extremists will continue to hold intelligence and compassion hostage.

Oh well, at the very least, I got to experience what it is like to respect our president. Now if you will excuse me, I have a Ukrainian nurse to interview.

Plugging the leak – The Express Tribune
 
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A Skeptic’s View: Why Wiki Leaks Embarrass Pakistan And Not Israel

WASHINGTON, DC—For the last four days, newspaper headlines around the globe have covered a cornucopia of diplomatic scandals, resulting from the “leaking” of some 250,000 cables of the US State Department to the New York Times and several other newspapers. In case there is anyone left on the planet who hasn’t heard of this, the cables were leaked to the media by “wikileaks,” a mysterious non-governmental organization which purports to publish classified documents while guaranteeing anonymity to the providers.

The scandals covered a variety of topics of interest to the American public and government, from China’s interest in the re-unification of Korea, to Iran’s purchase of missiles from North Korea, to Pakistani General Kayani wondering whether the US would support him in a military coup.

(1) Oddly enough, there are no scandals of any significance involving Israel or any other American ally.

The reason for this appears to lie in the editorial process of the world’s newspapers ‘of record.’

Despite public perceptions, Wikileaks does not make the material it receives available directly to the public. It sends the documents to newspapers, which decide what news is fit to print. As of this writing, Dec 2, 2010, four days after the New York Times and other newspapers began publishing scores of articles; Wikileaks has only posted 623 of the 250,000 documents they claim to have released to their website.

(2) Neither the New York Times, the Guardian or the other newspapers apparently in possession of these materials have published them either.

Worse, these 623 ‘leaks’ were apparently cleared by the State Department itself. According to noted American civil rights attorney Michael Ratner, “In the recent disclosure, Wikileaks has only posted cables that were reviewed by the news organisations and in some cases redacted. The news organisations showed them to the Pentagon and agreed to some of the government’s suggested redactions.”

(3) Wikileaks’ reluctance to post the materials to the internet probably results from a combination of factors. First and foremost, they have been threatened with prosecution in the US – although this author believes that is no more than a bluff – and accused of having “blood on their hands” already, despite the fact that even after several months, they haven’t yet released the scandalous “Afghan war logs” documents which, among other things, accused the Pakistani ISI of running a suicide bomber network in Kabul, and former DG ISI Hamid Gul of being the ISI’s liaison to the Taliban.

(4) Pakistan is left with no way to defend against these accusations, since it does not even know the nature of the sources, although Afghan intelligence (led by Amrullah Saleh) is suspected. And apparently, Wikileaks’ priority is to put more materials into the hands of the NY Times, rather than putting them on the internet.

It’s not a matter of resources. There are dozens, if not hundreds or thousands of people who would gladly volunteer to post this material to their websites. One of them is John Young, who really is what Mr. Assange, spokesman for Wikileaks, pretends to be. For the past 14 years, Young has posted the most remarkable materials to his site, including personal information and photographs of the homes of CIA officials.

(5) Young joined Wikileaks when it formed, but in January of 2007, left the organization, claiming it was a CIA front. While this author does not join him in making that accusation, it is noteworthy that the person who has actually done what Wikileaks claims to do, not only thinks Wikileaks is fake, but is a disinformation campaign.

Julian Assange will likely be arrested on rape charges any day now, for incidents that allegedly occurred on a speaking tour he did in Sweden. Assange claims that the women are part of a Pentagon “dirty tricks campaign” to discredit him. There are continual media reports that he is living a kind of underground fugitive existence. And now reports that the Wikileaks website is being hacked to the point that the mundane Afghanistan documents they did post online are no longer there. This is all an overreaction to what Wikileaks has actually done, which is act as an intermediary between persons unknown in the government, and the ever-compliant news media. The Wikileaks paranoia comes across as self-serving and insincere.

The solution to all this, of course, is quite simple. Wikileaks should hand over the goods to someone who will actually post them to the internet. Then we would at least have a fair process wherein people of different political ideologies could put whatever spins they wanted on them. Failing that, Assange should just take a job at the New York Times and stop being such a poser.

Mr. Wolf is a human rights attorney based in Washington DC. Description of his work as an anti-war lawyer is available on his website, Home Page.
 
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Confession links Russia to U.S. embassy attack

Suspect tells authorities army major ordered bomb placement

A new storm cloud may be on the horizon for President Obama over evidence that Moscow may have coaxed Georgian nationals into planting a bomb outside the U.S. embassy in Georgia's capital of Tbilisi.

The bomb detonated but caused no damage near the embassy in the attack in September.

Georgia's Interior Ministry apprehended six Georgians who are internally displaced persons from the Georgian breakaway province of Abkhazia. Two other perpetrators remain at large, believed to have escaped to Gali in Abkhazia following the bombing.

The majority of the population in the Abkhazian region of Gali are Georgian. Due to ethnic cleansing that has taken place over the years in Abkhazia, the once majority of Georgians in that breakaway province have been relegated primarily to Abkhazia's southwestern region of Gali.

Russia gained effective control over Abkhazia following its invasion of Georgia in August 2008 and the defeat of the U.S. trained and equipped Georgian armed forces.

The U.S. State Department has sent investigators to Georgia where a meeting is scheduled with Georgian investigators.

Georgian Interior Ministry officials say that the alleged bombers have made videotaped confessions and claim that Russian Maj. Yevgeniy Borisov was behind the bombing of the U.S. embassy and a series of other bombings in Tbilisi that followed in the ensuing months.
 
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A new low for the Pakistan media, even if all the leaks are real we can no longer belive what is written about them.

I do love the rent a crowd , er um mass protest in support of *** ange

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we protest on everything ...
this happens when you give democracy to Pakistanis
 
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WikiLeaks: Power politics at play

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Former New Zealand Prime Minister Helen Clark may have been shunning overtures from G W Bush in public, however behind closed doors the realities of global power politics ensured a wholly different response [EPA]

New Zealand and the United States have secretly re-initiated full intelligence collaboration, 25 years after they were first suspended.

The revelation was first reported by New Zealand's Sunday Star-Times weekly newspaper, which has obtained 1,490 diplomatic cables from the US embassy in Wellington, courtesy of WikiLeaks.

The report is the first in a series of articles by Nicky Hager, a reporter and researcher whose penetrative work regularly jolts New Zealand's political landscape - fellow antipodean journalist John Pilger has called him "quite simply, one of the world's leading investigative journalists".

The revived relationship come decades after United States first shunned military and intelligence ties with the South Pacific nation, as a retaliatory action in protest to New Zealand's adoption of nuclear-free legislation. US navy ships which were nuclear-powered or nuclear-armed were negatively impacted by the legislation.

The nuclear-free policy has become one of the cornerstones of national identity in New Zealand, and is generally supported across the political spectrum. It embodies what many New Zealanders like to think of as their nation’s rebellious, independent streak.

While the nuclear-free zone remains intact, despite ongoing pressure from the US, the diplomatic cables show that the small country's leaders are much more pliant on other defence-related matters behind closed doors.

Former Labour Prime Minister Helen Clark may have been publically outspoken in her condemnation of the US-led invasion of Iraq, but the memos suggest her government positioned itself as willing and able to spy on other countries in the Asia-Pacific region, passing on intelligence to US even when there was no direct benefit to the national interest of New Zealand.

Clark was "willing to address targets of marginal benefit to New Zealand that could do her political harm if made public," David Keegan, a US diplomat, writes in a cable dated March 2, 2007.

That co-operation has continued, the cables show, under John Key's Conservative government, which came to power in late 2008.

Whether New Zealand is effectively "spying for the United States" may well be contestable in some quarters. However the issue has been extremely controversial, ever since Hager first highlighted the existence of satellite monitoring bases on New Zealand territory in his 1996 book, Secret Power.

Now that full intelligence contact has been expanded, the relationship is likely to draw further outrage from New Zealanders unhappy over their government's willingness to play such an active – and secretive - role in intelligence-collecting on behalf of the Western intelligence alliance known as ECHELON, or the Five Eyes Intelligence Community.

Al Jazeera spoke with Nicky Hager about the background to the first cables on New Zealand.

The memos that have been released so far reveal that New Zealand's two main political parties have both gone to great lengths to conceal the nature of their cooperation with the US on military and intelligence matters from the New Zealand public. Given that so much of your work has focused on exposing this gap between political rhetoric and the reality, do you think these revelations are surprising?

There are often two very different worlds in political and diplomatic issues: what the public is told and what the insiders know is really going on. For example, US officials have repeatedly claimed in public that it is up to New Zealanders to decide our nuclear and other policies and there is no way they would try to interfere. But what the leaked US embassy cables showed was that US diplomats were continuing to pressure New Zealand to drop its nuclear free policy and align its policies with "US interests".

Is there any suggestion in these cables that New Zealand has compromised its nuclear-free policy? Or, alternatively, that this policy is now less of a concern to the Americans than has been publicly acknowledged?

No. The conservative National Government knows that it would be extremely damaging politically to be caught trying to compromise the nuclear free policy. So while the US makes it clear that they don't like it and want it to change, there is no sign of the New Zealand government moving on it.

As you wrote in your article for the Sunday Star Times, the cables show New Zealand officials have been willing to share intelligence that doesn’t relate directly to their own national security. Is this simply a case of New Zealand pulling its weight as a member of the Five Eyes intelligence community, or is there reason to believe New Zealand is sharing too much information with its ally?

New Zealand governments repeatedly tell the public that its intelligence activities are devoted purely to supplying information for New Zealand's uses. But this is not true and never has been. New Zealand is an interesting case study of the politics of a small nation in alliance with a large power.

Being a small alliance partner means that New Zealand's officials feel insecure and are very reluctant to say no to whatever the US requests. As the US embassy cables showed, this included intelligence operations that officials know would probably not be approved of and supported by most members of the public. The officials think these trade-offs are worth it for being in the alliance. But the public isn't told what is going on and does not get a chance to decide if it agrees with these choices.

Earlier this year, New Zealand's Security Intelligence Service was granted extensive new powers to monitor their fellow citizens' communications. Do the cables shed any new light on how this information might be being used?

Actually, no. The WikiLeaks release includes US Department of State cables up until February this year and up to and including cables classified as "Secret". So they don't cover the recent developments and, anyway, this business was possibly at the Top Secret level.

How did you get access to the cables from the US embassy in Wellington?

WikiLeaks decided to make all the initial releases of these documents through a number of "media partners". This included the New York Times and the British Guardian newspaper. Those papers were unlikely to cover issues of interest only to New Zealand and so I got the opportunity to write some stories for the New Zealand newspaper Sunday Star-Times

At a speech you gave in Auckland last week, you called for investigative journalism to be re-conceptualised; for a greater willingness to collaborate with partners who are not themselves journalists. Did you have WikiLeaks in mind when you said this?

I had a wider picture in mind. In most countries there are very few people who are paid by news organisations to do serious investigative journalism. Given financial problems in many media organisations, this looks set to get worse. So I was proposing that the concept of investigative journalism needs to be extended beyond full-time people attached to news organisations and to be defined instead as a profession with a distinctive role in society.

I think that many people with other labels, such as film makers, researchers and academics, could be doing high quality investigative journalism. If we want more investigative journalism, we should be training, encouraging and collaborating with this wider group. And, yes, WikiLeaks is also playing a role in society that is very similar to that which good journalists should play. I think initiatives like WikiLeaks deserve to be supported and encouraged.
 
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Wikileaks cable shows US fears that bio weapons can be stolen from Indian labs - Yahoo! News

NEW DELHI - U.S. officials say lax security at sophisticated Indian laboratories could make them targets for terrorists seeking biological weapons, according to comments made public in a leaked U.S. diplomatic cable.
The cable sent from the U.S. Embassy in New Delhi in June 2006 says India's public health system is ill-prepared in the event of a biological attack from terrorists.
While the government of India sees the likelihood of such an attack as remote, U.S. diplomats expressed concerns that Indian labs could be the source of material for a biological attack elsewhere.
The cable marked confidential was obtained by WikiLeaks and posted Friday on the website of the British newspaper The Guardian.
 
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