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Wikileaks cable reveals Kevin Rudd's plan for 'paranoid' China + Pakistan

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Hi,

Australia wanted the F 22 at all costs--even the downgraded version---it was ready to sell its heart and soul to the americans for that---even ready to do all the dirty work for the americans---.

Australian neighbours are getting stronger with a better airforce and navy and australia is worried---so let us take it with a grain of salt---remember some of the australians like us as well---we got their used mirages.

I think that statement was to earn brownie points---they knew very well that insurgents can't take over but just to look good they said what they did.
 
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Personally I think Rudd is playing a game here. He faces major push back in Australia for his pro-China stance and at least some people in think he's faked the cable to get the conservative monkeys off his back.

What some Australians think about Rudd.

they also speculate that the Chinese government are knew in advance these comments were going to leaked and I think they maybe right. When was the last time someone made a statement like this and China didn't protest???


Read this
From The eXiled’s Special Australasia Correspondent Ramon Glazov

PERTH, AUSTRALIA–A few hours ago (as of writing this), Julian Assange released his first US Embassy cable regarding Australian politics. It’s still too early for me to make my mind up, but it’s never too early to speculate. If the cable is genuine, it might be the most delicious disgrace in Prime Ministerial history – my brain’s tall poppy receptors are already tingling at the idea that it’s a real communiqué. Still, the whole thing is a little too perfect.

According to the cable, our former Prime Minister, Kevin Rudd, made some unfortunate comments about China in a 75-minute meeting with Hillary Clinton. According to Rudd, China’s leaders are “sub-rational” and America should be ready to “deploy force” if diplomacy fails. Even more damning (at least, supposedly) is his claim that Australia’s plans to expand its submarine fleet were “a response to China’s growing ability to project force.”

I should explain, before anything, why this is so delicious. Kevin Rudd came to power in Australia in late 2007, just over a year before Obama’s election victory. Like Obama, he replaced a long-standing conservative government while presenting himself as a progressive, and, like Obama’s, his government was a carbon copy of his predecessor’s in almost every area, including Iraq and Afghanistan.

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I wouldn’t normally use “tall poppy” as a slur, but if Rudd wasn’t a soulless vegetable with a waxy disproportionate head, then what was he? He certainly didn’t resemble Gough Whitlam, Australia’s last real Labor Prime Minister (whose election victory, if you believe Kwitny, made the CIA panic “almost as if our Australian ally had actually fallen to communists”). If he had one personality quirk, it was phoning random public servants during the early hours of the morning – this got him the nickname “Kevin 24/7.” Unfortunately, Prime Minister Crystal Dick seemed to spend most of his time tinkering with Howard policies to make them even more evil. In 2007, Howard gave families a free piece of Internet filtering software that cost $90m to develop… and could be bypassed by teenagers in less than 10 minutes. Rudd decided a software-based filter wasn’t enough and tried to extend Howard’s idea to an ISP level. It would never have worked, but like the current TSA scandal in America, it gave instant brownie points to all sorts of Penn & Teller loudmouths who’d be otherwise unemployed.

The other thing Rudd is famous for is China. He speaks Mandarin, had a long career as a Beijing diplomat in the 1980s, and Australian newspaper cartoonists occasionally like to draw him in a Chairman Mao suit. Playing up his sensitivity to Chinese culture was a crucial part of his 2007 campaign strategy. Earlier in the year, his party caucus forced him to resign and gave the PM job to his deputy, Julia Gillard. Now, imagine a political machine full of cold, convictionless little Adrian-Lamo-style nerds (plus a few jocks who happen to wear glasses) and you’d have a good picture of Rudd’s “Labor Right” faction. As a consolation prize for losing the Prime Minister job, they gave Rudd a cosy position as Foreign Minister in the “new” Gillard Government, figuring his Chinese credentials would carry him.

And that’s hardly the best piece of irony.

As Foreign Minister, you see, Rudd is the default head of ASIS, Australia’s equivalent to the CIA. If this morning’s cable is genuine, then Julian Assange has just caused our foreign intelligence agency one of its biggest ever embarrassments. It was only yesterday that the Wikileaks founder accused Australia’s government of betraying him “so that Australian diplomats and politicians can be invited to the best US embassy cocktail parties.” It looks like he’s finally bitten back.

It’s a pleasant scenario, but there’s still every chance the cable was a selective leak. For starters, it makes Rudd look suspiciously tough and uncompromising, which is exactly the bullshit West Wing image every Labor hack wants to cultivate. I’ve known a few. The scene of an Australian Prime Minister telling an American Secretary of State when to “deploy force” is even fishier, almost like a propaganda script to disguise Australia’s lackey status. Several readers of The Age website have already responded positively, claiming Rudd is “one of the few politicians around the world to approach China with some honesty” and is “only telling the truth.” If it’s a ruse, it might just work. (And it’s not like One Nation racists are the only voters Rudd could grab with a bit of Sinophobia: there are plenty of right-wing Chinese anticommunists still around.) The question is whether Rudd gave Beijing advance warning: to answer that, Assange would have to find some Australian or Chinese cables.

There’s also the matter of Rudd’s daughter Jessica, who happens to be married to a Hong-Kong-born banker called Albert Tse (also the former President of the Labor Club at QUT, the Queensland University of Technology). In 2008, Jessica moved to Beijing with her husband, apparently quitting her job in PR to become a full-time socialite. Rudd obviously has a pretty significant stake in China – that’s another thing that makes the cable a bit too perfect. There’s no shortage of failed Labor politicians who’ve badmouthed their former associates for profit – Google “Mark Latham” if you’re American – but dissing China while your son-in-law is doing business there makes no sense to a careerist unless the Chinese are in on the whole thing. That’s why, if it isn’t staged, it’s one hell of a clusterfuck.

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The Rudd Family: (l-r) Son-in-law Albert Tse, daughter/author Jessica, Daddy & Mommy

Ms. Rudd’s career comes with a few other unanswered questions. Less than two months after her father’s forced resignation, she brought out a “political chick-lit” novel called Campaign Ruby. The writing itself was mediocre, the usual plot about shoe-shopping and whatever, but the book had one claim to fame – predicting Crystal Dick’s resignation and replacement by Australia’s first female Prime Minister. The mainstream media called this “freakily prescient.” The really freaky part, though, is seeing Jessica Rudd in an interview. She claims to have barely finished two chapters before getting a book deal. She also claims to have gotten a deadline to complete the book by December 2009, despite being a first-time writer. Why December? Did the Labor hacks tip her off about her father’s resignation months ahead? (After her father’s demotion, getting to predict a major political event would make a nice consolation prize.) And could you imagine her writing a political novel if her father wasn’t about to get booted? A novel about a PM, getting ratfucked, published while he’s still in office? By his own ******* spawn? In the middle of an election year? Finally, she says the book was “so much fun” to write. I don’t think anyone who’s actually tried to write a novel would describe the process as “fun” – unless you’re handing outlines to a ghost writer, that is.

In short, Kevin Rudd has had plenty of incidents in his career that were about as spontaneous and unscripted as an All Saints episode, though I’m yet to issue a final verdict about Assange’s latest leak.

Or, as Jessica Rudd would put it: “I know, such a coincidence.”

Ramon Glazov lives and writes in Perth, Western Australia.




WikiLeaks Founder Julian Assange Drops Wiki-Bomb On Australia’s Foreign Minister Kevin Rudd…Or Does He? - By Ramon Glazov - The eXiled
 
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Kevin Rudd and the labor party are idiots. I am glad Kevin is gone, just need to get rid of Julia now.
 
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A Howard man right?

No, a liberal man.

John Howard was the best Prime Minister Australia ever had until he became out of touch in 2006 - 2007 where he was then voted out (i voted him out too)

Labor are incapable of running a country. Everytime they are in government they stuff up.
 
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Rest assured Mr. Rudd, australia's proximity to china and rich resources make it a very interesting target, so why draw fire to yourself? His chinese studies have been motivated by a deep and pathological hatred for China.

Do that and prepare for liberation operations of Tibet, Taiwan, and xinjiang :azn:
 
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No, Australia offered to send troops into Pakistan IF the insurgents took over Pakistan, not before.

Are you guys mad? Pakistan is a very powerful country and well protected.

KEVIN Rudd made a secret offer to the United States to send Australian troops into Pakistan, according to confidential documents released by WikiLeaks.

he needs mental hospital.
 
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Keep in mind that Kevin Rudd, and the Labor party in general, are much more pro-China than the Liberals.

This leak will damage the Labor party within Australia more than anything else, since the Australian public at large doesn't want to get involved in a US-China confrontation.

It makes sense
 
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WikiLeaks Kevin Rudd

THE US regards the Foreign Affairs Minister, Kevin Rudd, as an abrasive, impulsive ''control freak'' who presided over a series of foreign policy blunders during his time as prime minister, according to a series of secret diplomatic cables

Puts the wiki-'leaks' ;) about Rudd in perspective.

Funny how there are no damaging 'leaks' about the gung ho pro-America John 'Wayne' Howard.
 
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Are you guys mad? Pakistan is a very powerful country and well protected.



he needs mental hospital.


It wouldn't be a very powerful and protected country if insurgents and islamic hardliners took over, plus we wouldn't be going in alone, it would be with the U.S, NATO and all the rest of the countries.

Allowing pakistan to fall to insurgents and letting them have nukes is unacceptable.
 
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Pfffff hahahah Australians sending troops to Pakistan , with Steve Irvin leading them :D

wow I never knew Australians are so out of touch with reality , there is this one Australian clown David Kilcullen hired by the USG who barfed in april of 2009 that Pakistan could colapse after 6 months , guess what we are still here

Australia is un-important somewhere down there type of country that wants to get in on with their cousins in the US and UK.
Basically if you fill a boat full of petty criminals and hookers from the Victorian era and send them off to a remote island then a hundred years of so later you get people like Kevin Rudd, David Kilcullen or that animal-antagonizer Steve Irvin
 
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Pfffff hahahah Australians sending troops to Pakistan , with Steve Irvin leading them

You ignoring the fact that they would be going in with Coalition forces, not by themselfs as many of you imply. Also it's "steve irwin" and he's dead.

ow I never knew Australians are so out of touch with reality

Your ignoring the facts and taking what was said out of context. Kevin rudd offered to send troops in a Coalition like in iraq and afghanistan if insurgents and islamic harldiners took over.

Basically if you fill a boat full of petty criminals and hookers from the Victorian era and send them off to a remote island then a hundred years of so later you get people like Kevin Rudd, David Kilcullen or that animal-antagonizer Steve Irvin

Wow, some absolutely disgusting,rude and ignorant comments from you.

You just lost all credibility.
 
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You ignoring the fact that they would be going in with Coalition forces, not by themselfs as many of you imply. Also it's "steve irwin" and he's dead.



Your ignoring the facts and taking what was said out of context. Kevin rudd offered to send troops in a Coalition like in iraq and afghanistan if insurgents and islamic harldiners took over.



Wow, some absolutely disgusting,rude and ignorant comments from you.

You just lost all credibility.

yeah the comments are rude but then thats what you get when you make cuckoo stoires about other countries about which you know very little.

Let me tell you very frankly that the only country that can really take on Pakistan is the United States , we really dont give a second thought to any body else.
 
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