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Why we have lost the race to China

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OK best industry you have, no doubt ... :tup:

But is that pic a solar module manufacturing plant in Freiburg, Germany?

http://www.renewbl.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/werkiii_70.jpg

Germans came from India.

India is the origin of all cultures, all peoples, all knowledge, all wisdom, and all religions.

India is already a super power.
See our city!
Shining Mumbai!
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You are very true!

Mumbai is putting Shanghai to shame. Impressive and all this is due to Modi-ji's visionary leadership.
 
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It's sad to see such defeatist attitude from the author. I understand India is behind China, but Modi-ji is a visionary leader who will propel India to greater heights. I have no doubt that India will quickly surpass China to become a superpower by 2020!


Why we have lost the race to China - Livemint

Why we have lost the race to China

I am in China on holiday for a few weeks. I thought I should record my observations, as they occur to me and in no particular order. We say “Made in China” sniggeringly to indicate cheap and poorly made things. The evidence on China’s streets does not betray this lack of quality. The finish and construction of their pavements and parks, the way their gardens are laid out and the trees in their public spaces. All these things are first rate.

The small things, the details in China are right. Platforms are aligned exactly to the height of train floors. There is cleanliness and it comes from an engagement with surroundings.

When we attribute Singapore’s order to Lee Kuan Yew’s genius, we must be able to explain why Hong Kong is also as clean. The reason is of course that it is the Chinese whom we must credit and not some dictator.

One of the first things that one notices at the table is that the Chinese respect vegetables, unlike us. One can taste the flavour of the food on the plate, which is cooked with a light touch, not assaulted with masala. The other thing is how many vegetables they serve. We stress our vegetarianism but are essentially grain eaters.

I would say this difference also extends to tea, which the Chinese respect, unlike us. The freedom fighter Maulana Abul Kalam Azad once began researching tea and came to reject what passed for the beverage in India. He called it “liquid halwa”.

On the street in China’s cities and towns, there is equality, physically speaking. The chasm, the physical separation of Indians by class—compare your colour, size, beauty to that of your servant—is unapparent.

The Han, 90% of China’s population, are a beautiful people, small but not malnourished, radiant of skin and with no body hair. Like in European nations, the dominant physical shape is slender and thin.

The old are alive in spirit, active in workplaces (we were rowed on a boat by five men of whom the youngest was 74). The parks are full of old people exercising, the tea houses are packed with them.

The Chinese have a genetic lack of tolerance to alcohol (meaning they get hammered easily). Most beers contain 2.5% alcohol. Two 320ml cans contain only as much alcohol as a small 30ml drink.

Though English is now compulsory from kindergarten in cities, almost nobody speaks it (Chinese people can modernize themselves without leaning on the West, unlike us).

Yet car number plates are in English because the Chinese system is too complicated for the small plates and I suppose for quick reading.

The English on signs is strange, as we all know, and probably the result of someone using a dictionary: “Tickets once sold will be dishonoured.”

This kind of translation results in signs that are direct: “Please aim carefully”, was pasted over one urinal. “Help keep this cleaner by stepping closer”, was pasted over another urinal. I didn’t need to, of course.

There is a high level of state penetration. An example: In the town of Yangshuo, all restaurants are required to use identical crockery that is washed and sanitized by one company that collects and returns the vessels daily, each set in plastic wrapping placed before individual diners at the table.

Is this level of execution possible in India? Not even in my beloved Gujarat.

Currency notes of all denominations have a photo of Mao Zedong and the issuing bank is called Zhongguo Renmin Yinhang.

This is spelled out in six scripts, including Perso-Arabic for the Uighur, an ethnic minority.

Zhongguo is the Chinese name for China. Its opening syllable is pronounced as the lisped Marathi tch. However in Perso-Arabic, the bank’s name is spelled with a J meaning the Uighur cannot pronounce the name of their country properly.

You can get a first-rate meal at a high-end restaurant for seven people, including beer, for Rs.3,000. That is not possible in India where the quality and the surroundings drop precipitously once the very highest end of expensive places is taken out.

Internet and Wi-Fi is free and without registration at airports. Almost no security is visible. Men and women are frisked together (I was always frisked by women). There is one security check and one ticket check. They have no need for the three other steps we have (ticket check at entrance, boarding pass check and stamp check).

The reason is that, like all Western nations, their idea of security is not limited to securing locations, but the environment.

The literacy rate is very high and so is its quality. Even those in the labouring classes read fluently. It is more expensive to study art and music in China than medicine and engineering. A certain sign of a highly civilized people. There is no tipping in restaurants and there is no pleading for more money, even from coolies, who carry themselves with great dignity.

Things that the Chinese have in common with us: a religious framework centred around demanding material goods as a barter with God (though the Chinese don’t give him gold unlike us). And ancestor worship.

In public spaces and in conversation, the Chinese are as noisy as us but there is none of our mindless honking.

Like us they also revere, if not quite worship, money. The Chinese entrepreneurial base is not restricted either by geography or caste, unlike ours. This is one aspect of why their economic success has a broader base than ours.

China has many negatives. Above all, an authoritarian state intolerant of dissent and a one-party political system. I could not bear to live here as a citizen, a place offering relief and choice in neither ideology not candidates.

The government decides what parts of the Internet to access. There is no access to Google. There’s no Facebook, no Twitter, no Gmail and no YouTube.

Yes, the state is effective and it penetrates. But I suspect the state in China also penetrated during most of the different historical eras and systems, including monarchy.

India compares its economic growth and achievements to China’s. It shouldn’t. This isn’t a race and no prize will be awarded. If it was, we have lost and are losing. The talk when I left India was about overtaking China’s current growth rate. The real figure to race against would be China’s growth rate when their economy was the size of ours (it is four times bigger today). At that point they were clocking double-digit annual growth in metronomic fashion.

We should calibrate our nationalist bombast to our actual achievements.

We Indians, all of us—secularists, communalists, Hindus, Muslims, all put together—are irrelevant in that sense. That is what experiencing the world will teach those of us who can afford to travel and haven’t allowed our minds to be shut by our fierce nationalism.

The truth is we have few achievements. We squabble daily over idiotic things—ban Maggi! ban Uber!—while other nations have lifted themselves.

Sailing to see the Three Gorges dam, my map showed 45 bridges across that patch of the Yangtze river and its tributaries. The entire Brahmaputra has how many? Two? A single Chinese city, Chongqing, a place few Indians have heard of, has likely seen more industrial development in the last decade than all India’s cities combined. Comparisons are embarrassing, and meaningless.

Anyway, even the Chinese are not there yet, not a fully developed nation with economic and political freedom and without everyday corruption, like Europe, like Japan. But you can see their path. Three more decades of this growth and they are there. Political freedom will come automatically in one way or another.

What’s our path out of darkness and into civilization and an equal and prosperous society? Frankly I cannot see it. But I do know that those who say it is through government, meaning that the rest of us—“civil society”—do nothing, are wrong.

To read Aakar’s previous Lounge columns, click here.

Fantastic article. Thank you. I have to agree 100% with the "small things" that matter, Building one impressive building anybody can do, like one lucky goal. However getting every pavement, every tree, every, every street light, every sign in millions of places across and entire country perfect is true sign of a system working.

I also agree too many South Asian's once they are over 40 just let go and gain weight, do not exercise. The keep fit and hard work culture in China is impressive. I want Pakistani's to read this and learn from this as well ....

The greatest gift China could give to Pakistan is not money, not weapons, not CPEC but the mindset that is right now building a hyperpower called China ..
 
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Ok.

I was going to post a serious reply.

Then I saw " re-disover the blueprints to ancient Vedic technologies" then I said Oh $hit. you are so logical.

You need to learn Vedic logic to understand ancient India's greatness and modern India's unlimited potential.

Already, the Indian economy is growing around 8%, measured by Vedic Statistics. Modi-ji is a brilliant and visionary leader who will transform India into a superpower by 2020 using Vedic science. I have no doubt about that.
 
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It must be a coincidence that @Luca1 @RisingShiningSuperpower @Emperor Modi all working in tandem in a thread which merely happens to be about India!

What is this? A reunion of all schizophrenic, India-bashing, false-flaggers of PDF egged on with glee by the Chinese and Pakistanis just for the sadistic highs they get out of mocking India? How sick is that?

I will never understand how the Mods allow such a fantastic forum to be overrun by the buffoons like this.
 
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America is not perfect, but we are not going to collapse like how many had predicted. Some part of America are worse than others. But overall, most Chinese and India would come to America if given a green card. America is where people try to come.


Some people here have been saying America is going to collapse for years and years. :lol: According to some older posts, we should have collapsed 5 to 10 years ago. :usflag:

Vedic space propulsion is more advanced than the warp drive in science fiction. India will master the technology of Vedic space drive before 2020.

I would like to see this fascinating Vedic space drive and how it is more advanced then warp drive. I would like to know how it operates.
 
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Some people here have been saying America is going to collapse for years and years. :lol: According to some older posts, we should have collapsed 5 to 10 years ago. :usflag:



I would like to see this fascinating Vedic space drive and how it is more advanced then warp drive. I would like to know how it operates.
BAmerica might collapse if it's calculated with Vedic math, that is about it.

Maybe I can be a White servant!


I'm going to be like one of those taxi drivers in the movie... How about you?
 
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You need to learn Vedic logic to understand ancient India's greatness and modern India's unlimited potential.

Already, the Indian economy is growing around 8%, measured by Vedic Statistics. Modi-ji is a brilliant and visionary leader who will transform India into a superpower by 2020 using Vedic science. I have no doubt about that.


Vedic Mathematics (book) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


I know some vedic mathematics techniques. I can write an answer of 5 to 6 digit by 5 to 6 digit multiplication straight way.
 
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It must be a coincidence that @Luca1 @RisingShiningSuperpower @Emperor Modi all working in tandem in a thread which merely happens to be about India!

What is this? A reunion of all schizophrenic, India-bashing, false-flaggers of PDF egged on with glee by the Chinese and Pakistanis just for the sadistic highs they get out of mocking India? How sick is that?

I will never understand how the Mods allow such a fantastic forum to be overrun by the buffoons like this.

Another Kangress sickular dog who is angry because Modi-ji is in power. I recommend that you free your mind with Yoga and Vedic meditation.
 
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we never loose to China. We legged behind china which we are catching up now.

Are you serious?
If there ever was a race between India and China it was only in Indian's dreams. China is too far ahead of you and still moving way too fast for you to even see their behind. If you can catch up with China in next 50 years then we can catch up with you in 5 years.
 
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Its about time you guys got out of the fantasy world that the Indian govt has indoctrinated you with and saw the reality. Forget the bridges and infrastructure, growth rate etc.

Just compare China's Investment in the US (more than 3 Trillion dollars) with that of India in all other countries in the world.
 
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