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Why very poor families can still afford a car in China and poor regions like Xinjiang and Tibet may have a higher percentage of private car ownership than Beijing and Shanghai?

Because used cars are super super cheap in China, even the poorest families can afford one, while in big cities like Beijing and Shanghai, we have license plate restriction rules and people could apply for a decade but still can't get a license plate which allows you to buy a car in the city.

We can see the price for used cars in China can go as low as less than $700, less than half of the monthly average salary in big cities in China.
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China may conquer the global used-car export market
By: Bloomberg |
Published: July 29, 2019 6:49 AM
China is home to more than 300 million registered vehicles—the largest fleet in the world—and it’s just a matter of time before more of them are resold across the world

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A Chinese company in Guangzhou recently exported 300 used cars to buyers in Cambodia, Nigeria, Myanmar and Russia. The shipment was a first for China, which till now had restricted large-scale exports of used cars in deference to manufacturers, who feared that poor vehicle quality could damage their reputations. There will be more such shipments—and their impact will reverberate well beyond the mainland’s used-car lots.

With all the focus on electric and self-driving cars, it’s easy to overlook just how big and influential the market for old-fashioned junkers remains. In developed economies, more than twice as many used cars are sold as new ones. For example, there were 17.3 million new vehicles sold in the US during 2018—and 40.2 million used ones.
The gap is forecast to widen in 2019, driven by the ever-escalating price of new cars and a flood of used vehicles coming off lease. Automakers may be forced to slash prices of new vehicles and eliminate incentives in order to prop up sales.

Rich countries from Japan to the US have shipped at least some of their older vehicles to developing nations such as Mexico and Nigeria for decades now. The trade has done more than get polluting autos off the roads; it
has helped boost new-car sales by reducing the supply of second-hand alternatives.

Compared to domestic sales, of course, the numbers are quite small: The US exported just under 800,000 used cars last year, a number that’s remained relatively steady since 2013. Nevertheless, that accounted for nearly a third of the passenger vehicles and light trucks exported from the US in 2018. Japanese exports often approach 1 million vehicles annually. Singapore, Korea, several European countries and Canada also export a significant number of used cars.

It makes sense that China would join them. For one thing, inventory is building. In 2018, China sold 28 million new cars and nearly 14 million used ones. Soon, the ratio will flip: China is home to more than 300 million registered vehicles—the largest fleet in the world—and it’s just a matter of time before more of them are resold. The quality of Chinese cars has also improved to the point where many developing-world consumers may well choose them as a cheaper alternative to used Toyotas or Fords.

At the same time, China’s automobile industry is in a slump and policymakers are keen to find ways to boost it. Used-car exports, the government says, can “stimulate the vitality of the domestic automobile consumption market.”
That spells competition and possibly trouble for the automotive sector globally. An increase in the supply of used cars will inevitably drive down prices, especially in the emerging markets such as Nigeria and Cambodia to which Chinese exporters will be marketing their vehicles.

While that’s good news for prospective car buyers in Lagos, over the long term it will impact new car sales and even manufacturing in developing countries, many of which are part of automakers’ global supply chains. Likewise, as fewer cars are exported, say, from the US, the competition between new and used vehicles domestically will only stiffen.

And cars are just the beginning. Just as China’s factories drove down the cost of new goods over the last three decades, the growing piles of used stuff purchased—and now unloaded—by Chinese consumers will exert downward pressure on the price of used and new products everywhere.

Hints of that disruption are already emerging in another second-hand marketplace: used clothing. As China has evolved into the world’s largest maker and consumer of apparel, it has also become the world’s biggest disposer of apparel, with estimates ranging as high 26 million tonnes tossed annually. (The US threw out around 16 million tonnes of clothing in 2015, the last date for which data is available.)

Data on China’s used-clothing exports are thin, but in 2015 it officially exported $218.2 million in used apparel, while the US shipped $575.5 million. Within the industry, it’s widely acknowledged that China is the fastest-growing source of used clothes globally. Traders in West Africa claim that the recent surge in Chinese clothing imports has undercut the market for new and used clothes.

China’s second-hand car exports are starting modestly and the country will take time to catch up to more established players. But this isn’t semiconductor manufacturing; long-term, China will have more used cars to sell than anybody and its export business will inevitably grow into the world’s biggest. Global automakers might want to strap on their seatbelts.

https://www.financialexpress.com/in...er-the-global-used-car-export-market/1658954/
 
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Why very poor families can still afford a car in China and poor regions like Xinjiang and Tibet may have a higher percentage of private car ownership than Beijing and Shanghai?

Because used cars are super super cheap in China, even the poorest families can afford one, while in big cities like Beijing and Shanghai, we have license plate restriction rules and people could apply for a decade but still can't get a license plate which allows you to buy a car in the city.

We can see the price for used cars in China can go as low as less than $700, less than half of the monthly average salary in big cities in China.
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If a car has a good navigation system and costs just $700, then the car is a worthless hull. A plastic bag for the navigator.

Nobody can seriously expect anything from such a cheap car.
 
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If a car has a good navigation system and costs just $700, then the car is a worthless hull. A plastic bag for the navigator.

Nobody can seriously expect anything from such a cheap car.
It can't be true in other countries,but in China it can be a very decent car, I sold my Peugeot for several hundred dollars some years back in Beijing, it was a very good car, never had any problems, but I have to sell it cheap cause I can't buy a new car if I didn't sell the old, I have only one license plate, Beijing has very strict license plate restriction rules. It was sold to Xinjiang Turpan.
 
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It can't be true in other countries,but in China it can be a very decent car, I sold my Peugeot for several hundred dollars some years back in Beijing, it was a very good car, never had any problems, but I have to sell it cheap cause I can't buy a new car if I didn't sell the old, I have only one license plate, Beijing has very strict license plate restriction rules. It was sold to Xinjiang Turpan.
Quality has a price. No matter the place. Quality has the same price in China as Germany. There is no difference. A new Audi costs between $50,000 and $100,000. If I buy a chinese car for $1,000 oh My gosh. There is no “decent” car for cheap. Sorry nobody can expect any from cheap stuffs. If I bought a cheap chinese car I would give it to my sons as aggression training ground. Every time when Xi Jingping sinks a Viet fishing vessel the kids can demolish the car.
 
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If I bought a cheap chinese car I would give it to my sons as aggression training ground. Every time when Xi Jingping sinks a Viet fishing vessel the kids can demolish the car.
No one cares what you do to them as long as you paid for them.
 
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It can't be true in other countries,but in China it can be a very decent car, I sold my Peugeot for several hundred dollars some years back in Beijing, it was a very good car, never had any problems, but I have to sell it cheap cause I can't buy a new car if I didn't sell the old, I have only one license plate, Beijing has very strict license plate restriction rules. It was sold to Xinjiang Turpan.
Car will make Corona virus last longer, thats why Beijing is full of corona virus now.

better use bicycle, e-bike, motorbike or walk, dude.
 
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No, bro, not $1,000 Chinese car I am too stupid. I buy $1 plastic Xi Jingping doll.

This is 2020, not 1990s.
China Product Quality already in another level.
You can see the durability of Huawei Smartphones, Lenovo Notebook, even they exporting Nuclear Reactor to UK.

They have Good Cars too, like Geely, Lynx&Co, Nio, BYD, and many others
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But yeah, their quality is no match compared with vietnamese supah powan motocycle technology :lol:
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This is 2020, not 1990s.
China Product Quality already in another level.
You can see the durability of Huawei Smartphones, Lenovo Notebook, even they exporting Nuclear Reactor to UK.

They have Good Cars too, like Geely, Lynx&Co, Nio, BYD, and many others
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But yeah, their quality is no match compared with vietnamese supah powan motocycle technology :lol:
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Bcs they cant buy houses in big cities due to super high price (650,000-700,000 usd for an apartment in Shanghai) , so they have to buy cars while lots of Vnese save money to buy houses/apartments ( from 60,000 usd for an apartment in Ho chi minh city) than buying cars.

And we r discussing while poor Cnese still can afford to buy used cars, not abt new cars.
 
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This is 2020, not 1990s.
China Product Quality already in another level.
You can see the durability of Huawei Smartphones, Lenovo Notebook, even they exporting Nuclear Reactor to UK.

They have Good Cars too, like Geely, Lynx&Co, Nio, BYD, and many others
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View attachment 644814
View attachment 644815

But yeah, their quality is no match compared with vietnamese supah powan motocycle technology :lol:
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The article says China exported 300 used cars. 300 from a total 300 million registered cars. Not much. Or what you think?
 
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If a car has a good navigation system and costs just $700, then the car is a worthless hull. A plastic bag for the navigator.

Nobody can seriously expect anything from such a cheap car.

That's incorrect. The market value of a car is not always proprtionate to the worth of a car. I'll give you an example of the UK. In the UK a luxury vehicle like a Mercedes S-Class brand new will cost £60,000 new. The same car when 3 years old is approximately £25,000. That car is still better than 99% of cars in the world but has lost over 50% of it's value? Why?

- The typical customer of an S class is extremely wealthy and wants a brand new car as a symbol of prestige. They don't want an older model, they want the newest model, or the newest registration.
- There are not many other customers who can afford to buy and maintain such an expensive car.

Hence the market value drops, even though the car is still amazing, often with very little mileage on it.

That is a niche example though. The biggest factor for cheap second hand cars in the UK is the availability of finance plans and leasing. You can pay to lease a car for 3 years or 5 years and then, pay small top up fee and get a brand new model. The older car then goes into the second hand market. You can also easily get finance to buy a brand new car and pay for it on monthly installments. The British have a very lax attitude to taking on debt. Another crucial factor is that finance for new cars is available at a much better rate than finance for a second hand car.

Because of this people prefer to get new cars, rather than buy second hand cars, which drives down prices.

I bought a 2001 Honda Civic from a family member as a cheap car for my wife. She only recently learnt to drive and I didn't want to buy an expensive car. She crashed the first one i got her....lol

It is mechanically sound, it hasn't done a lot of miles, the body work is in good condition (no rust or dents, although the paint looks old now). It cost me £500.

In Pakistan that car would be worth 10 times as much I reckon.
 
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I have $3000 to buy my first car in Pakistan, I am getting 10 years old lowest possible car which is now discontinued.
 
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I have $3000 to buy my first car in Pakistan, I am getting 10 years old lowest possible car which is now discontinued.
Same price for 10 years old car in VN.Thats why ppl in VN would rather save money for buying house/land than buying used cars.
 
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The article says China exported 300 used cars. 300 from a total 300 million registered cars. Not much. Or what you think?

Many of those are new cars because Chinese economic booming in recent years, read the news properly.

But in the next years, they will change cars. Remember, Rome is not build in one day

Chinese is not short minded people, like your kind
 
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