Why U.S. rail travel is so expensive

[beijingwalker]

Their money, their standard of viable. Our money, our standard of viable. See how that works?

Sure, how they spend their money is their own business, and we just learn why train rides are so expensive, think of the article an information piece.

 

[VCheng]

Sure, how they spend their money is their own business,

Great. Let USA spend its money not on HSR, and let China spend its money on HSR. Their money, their rules. See how simple it is?

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

China just got developed less than 10 years and still has a lot of catch up to do, it's not China doesn't want to do it, China works very hard on them.

I always find it interesting that "developed" means you have people living a lifestyle in line with Western expectations and somehow if you aren't meeting those expectations you are considered "developing" or "undeveloped".

 

[beijingwalker]

Great. Let USA spend its money not on HSR, and let China spend its money on HSR. Their money, their rules. See how simple it is?

HSR doesn't cost much, so US doesn't bother to have it or not, their money is being spent on big items, like, wars.

I always find it interesting that "developed" means you have people living a lifestyle in line with Western expectations and somehow if you aren't meeting those expectations you are considered "developing" or "undeveloped".

Why you think developed means people living a lifestyle in line with Western expectations ? are you being overly narcissistic?

 

[VCheng]

HSR doesn't cost much, so US doesn't bother to have it or not, their money is being spent on big items, like, wars.

Your money, you spend it as you like. Our money, we spend it as we like. Why do you want to judge how someone else spends their money?

 

[beijingwalker]

Your money, you spend it as you like. Our money, we spend it as we like. Why do you want to judge how someone else spends their money?

It's them judging China spending on "not viable " HSR and failing to understand that tickets sales are not the only way to get investment on HSR back.

 

[VCheng]

It's them judging China spending on "not viable " HSR and failing to understand that tickets sales are not the only way to get investment on HSR back.

You yourself have admitted HSR is not viable without government subsidies.

 

[beijingwalker]

You yourself have admitted HSR is not viable without government subsidies.

You mean I said the cost can not be recovered by ticket sales alone? how about education? if you can't get investment back just from students tuitions, will a country shut their education sector?

 

[VCheng]

You mean I said the cost can not be recovered by ticket sales alone?

Which means that government subsidies must be provided to make up for the shortfall.

 

[beijingwalker]

Which means that government subsidies must be provided to make up for the shortfall.

Yes, that's true, for the operation cost, but the government reaps way more money from what HSR brings to the country. got it?

 

[VCheng]

Yes, that's true, for the operation cost

HSR is therefore not viable without government subsidies.

(The other indirect benefits that you keep mentioning are mere excuses to pad up the business case.)

 

[beijingwalker]

HSR is therefore not viable without government subsidies.

(The other indirect benefits that you keep mentioning are mere excuses to pad up the business case.)

HSR is viable that's why they are there for 20 years in China, with HSR's incredible performance in the past two decades, China registered the best economic growth during the past 20 years, HSR's operation needs government subsidies, got it?

 

[VCheng]

HSR is viable that's why they are there, with HSR's incredible performance in the past two decades, China registered the best economic growth during the past 20 years, HSR's operation needs government subsidies, got it?

Good foll China! So happy foll you!

(It still does not mean USA needs HSR, or wants HSR, because there is no viable business case for it.)

 

[beijingwalker]

Good foll China! So happy foll you!

(It still does not mean USA needs HSR, or wants HSR, because there is no viable business case for it.)

So I guess they should stop struggling to build one, just give up, it'll never happen.

 

[VCheng]

So I guess they should stop struggling to build one, just give up, it'll never happen.

We will build it if and when we determine we can make a proper case for building it. Get it?