Why this US flying pioneer hated Indira Gandhi and IAF (another Indian Propaganda piece)

[masterchief_mirza]

Who or what is julfikar?

Julfikar janab. You don't know julfikar?? You jahil jalim insaan! Hindustan jindabad.

 

[baqai]

Julfikar Ali Bhutto.

let me remind you something which kids here at least learn in pre school at ages of around 2-3 Years

ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ

 

[airmarshal]

The article is a poisonous mix of American Imperial hubris and India's shallow cockiness. I can understand American arrogance, but whats with Indian pride?

These idiots having been beaten so many times by PAF are still cocky about themselves. Beghairats!

And Yeager took the war personally because his unarmed, turboprop was shot by an Indian jet! This statement in itself shows the cowardice in an Indian mindset. A parked passenger plane shot by a fighter jet! I dont know what sh*t they are high on.

 

[Taimoor Khan]

Dude read the article again, Indians have a great respect for this American legend it's just that he went bonkers after his plane was destroyed

His plane? LoL, did he pay from his own pocket?

Dude was doing his duty to his country by sending the parts of Soviet jets in use by Indian air force , knocked down by Pakistan air force like flies, left right and centre. Butthurt is pretty obvious among India and specially its establishment.

 

[Capt. Karnage]

His plane? LoL, did he pay from his own pocket?

Dude was doing his duty to his country by sending the parts of Soviet jets in use by Indian air force , knocked down by Pakistan air force like flies, left right and centre. Butthurt is pretty obvious among India and specially its establishment.

Oh yeah yeah whatever helps you sleep easy

 

[Thorough Pro]

Chuck Yeager was jealous of the superior flying skills of Indian pilots and became angry when they refused to teach him those skills

Chidanand RajghattaTNN
Dec 12, 2020, 11:53 IST
Flying legend Chuck Yeager, who made noise on behalf of Pakistan, is remembered for breaking the sound barrier
WASHINGTON: Chuck Yeager, the American flying legend who was the first to break the sound barrier, was venerated by the Pakistani military, but while his aerial feats were respected by many Indian pilots, his swagger and political partisanship was the butt of jokes in the diplomatic circuit after he went total Pakistani during the 1971 war. Yeager never forgave India and IAF pilots for destroying his beloved twin-engine Beechcraft.

US fighter pilot Chuck Yaeger died on December 8 at the age of 97 (AFP Photo)
US fighter pilot Chuck Yaeger died on December 8 at the age of 97 (AFP Photo)
Yeager, who died on on December 8 at 97, was deputed to serve in Pakistan as head of the Military Assistance Advisory Group (MAAG) with the "modest task" of seeing that the residual trickle of American military aid was properly distributed to the Pakistanis and "to teach Pakistanis how to use American military equipment without killing themselves in the process," according to Edward Ingraham, a US diplomat who served in the American Embassy in Islamabad.

"One of the perks of Yeager's position was a twin-engined Beechcraft, a small airplane supplied by the Pentagon to help keep track of the occasional pieces of American military equipment that sporadically showed up in the country. Ambassador (Joseph) Farland, however, had other designs on the plane. An ardent fisherman, he found that the Beechcraft was the ideal vehicle for transporting him to Pakistan's more remote lakes and rivers, with Yeager often piloting him to and fro," Ingraham wrote in an article titled "The Right Stuff in the Wrong Place," taking off from Tom Wolfe's celebration of US test pilots in his acclaimed book The Right Stuff.
Chuck Yeager, standing second from left, with some of the cast of the film The Right Stuff (US Air Force Photo via The New York Times)
Chuck Yeager, standing second from left, with some of the cast of the film The Right Stuff (US Air Force Photo via The New York Times)
Ingraham describes a US Embassy in Pakistan where staff was increasingly preoccupied with the deepening India-Pakistan crisis and meetings became more frequent and more tense. "We were troubled by the complex questions that the conflict raised. No such doubts seemed to cross the mind of Chuck Yeager. I remember one occasion on which Farland asked Yeager for his assessment of how long the Pakistani forces in the East could withstand an all-out attack by India. 'We could hold them off for maybe a month' he replied, 'but beyond that we wouldn't have a chance without help from outside?' It took the rest of us a moment to fathom what he was saying, not realising at first that "we" was West Pakistan, not the United States," Ingraham writes. When Ingraham asked him to be be a little more even-handed in his comments, he says Yeager gave him a withering glance and snapped "Goddamn it, we're assigned to Pakistan. What's wrong with being loyal?!”

Chuck Yeager never forgave India for destroying his twin-engine Beechcraft during the 1971 war
Chuck Yeager never forgave India for destroying his twin-engine Beechcraft during the 1971 war
According to Ingraham, Yeagar began to take the war with India personally the morning after Pakistan's then military ruler Yahya Khan opened up the western front. On the eve of India's counterattack, he says, Pakistanis had been prudent enough to evacuate their planes from airfields close to the Indian border but no one thought to warn General Yeager. "Thus when an Indian fighter pilot swept low over Islamabad airport in India's first retaliatory strike, he could see only two small planes on the ground. Dodging antiaircraft fire, he blasted both to smithereens with 20-millimeter (sic) canon fire. One was Yeager's Beechcraft. The other was a plane used by United Nations forces to supply the patrols that monitored the ceasefire in Kashmir," Ingraham writes.
Capt. Charles 'Chuck' Yeager with the Bell X-1 plane which he flew to break the sound barrier (US Air Force Photo via The New York Times)
Capt. Charles 'Chuck' Yeager with the Bell X-1 plane which he flew to break the sound barrier (US Air Force Photo via The New York Times)

Ingraham says he never found out how the UN reacted to the destruction of its plane, "but Yeager's response was anything but dispassionate. He raged to his cowering colleagues at a staff meeting. His voice resounding through the embassy, he proclaimed that the Indian pilot not only knew exactly what he was doing but had been specifically instructed by Indira Gandhi to blast Yeager's plane. In his book he later said that it was the Indian way of giving Uncle Sam 'the finger'"

"Our response to this Indian atrocity, as I recall was a top priority cable to Washington that described the incident as a deliberate affront to the American nation and recommended immediate countermeasures. I don't think we ever got an answer?" Ingraham writes with mild disdain for Yeagar's outrage.
Yeager insisted that while Pakistan was defeated on land and sea, it won the air war against India in 1971 (AFP Photo)
Yeager insisted that while Pakistan was defeated on land and sea, it won the air war against India in 1971 (AFP Photo)
The Indian pilot who destroyed Yeager's aircraft was Arun Prakash, who would go on to become Indian Navy chief but who was then an exchange pilot with the IAF. In a tongue-in-cheek account of the episode in Vayu magazine some years ago, Prakash describes how he decimated the Beechcraft on spotting it during a second run of the Chaklala airfield after first destroying a Hercules C-130 on the first run.
"After reading Ingraham's account, and especially after retiring from the navy, the thought has often crossed my mind that perhaps Yeager had it coming to him from Mrs. Gandhi. And if Indira Gandhi did indeed personally order the destruction of Chuck Yeager's Beechcraft, then Nixon may have been quite justified in personally directing the Enterprise task force to sail into the Bay of Bengal as an 'immediate countermeasure," Prakash writes, adding tongue in cheek, "In which case the honours are equally shared, and I owe no apologies to anyone, except perhaps UN Secretary U Thant!"
Much of Yeager's account of the India-Pakistan skirmish has been debunked by military historians (AP Photo)

Much of Yeager's account of the India-Pakistan skirmish has been debunked by military historians (AP Photo)
Yeager though carried the torch for Pakistan well into his advancing years, insisting that while Pakistan was defeated on land and sea, it won the air war. Asked in a recent Twitter exchange which pilots among those he had flown with he respected most, he named Pakistanis. "In 1971-73, I flew with the Pakistan Air Force in the war with India. They were the best in the world because they had the most experience - over 75 hours/month," he wrote.

While much of Yeager's account of the India-Pakistan skirmish is noise that has been debunked by military historians, the feat he is being remembered for today is his breaking of the sound barrier.

This US flying legend hated Indira Gandhi and IAF - Times of India

India News: Flying legend Chuck Yeager, who made noise on behalf of Pakistan, is remembered for breaking the sound barrier

m.timesofindia.com

 

[Capt. Karnage]

Chuck Yeager was jealous of the superior flying skills of Indian pilots and became angry when they refused to teach him those skills

He surely was, in his presence the IAF changed Pakistan's geography and he couldn't do anything.

 

[Thorough Pro]

you need your history lesson, read 1965 and by the way IAF refused to fly they refused to enter Pakistani airspace on the third day

He surely was, in his presence the IAF changed Pakistan's geography and he couldn't do anything.

 

[Capt. Karnage]

you need your history lesson, read 1965 and by the way IAF refused to fly they refused to enter Pakistani airspace on the third day

Seriously dude did you read that version of history which says pakistan won the 1965 war?

 

[Thorough Pro]

Believe whatever you want, not everyone needs to get high on drugs to feel euphoria, most Indians don't need drugs for their delusions.

over and out.

Seriously dude did you read that version of history which says pakistan won the 1965 war?

 

[Yasser76]

Seriously dude did you read that version of history which says pakistan won the 1965 war?

Guess you never saw the classified CIA report on Indian losses, or you just refuse to beleive them as they are so damning, every independant historian and news source has it listed as your *** getting whupped, but I am sure you will tell me how they all hate India....

 

[Taimoor Khan]

Oh yeah yeah whatever helps you sleep easy

What a yank have to do with me sleeping easy? Lol. I am at peace becuase I know PAF is on guard, and have DOMINATING kill ratio against Indian air force, a fact further underlined during the events of operation swift retort.