What's new

Why this indifference to Tejas fighter jet?

Status
Not open for further replies.

sudhir007

SENIOR MEMBER
Joined
Jul 6, 2009
Messages
4,728
Reaction score
1
Why this indifference to Tejas fighter jet? | idrw.org

Ask any of the 20-odd Indian Air Force test pilots who have flown the Tejas Light Combat Aircraft and they will all swear that it is a great fighter to fly. It handles beautifully, screams along at Mach 1.6 (2,000 kilometres per hour) and fires the full range of air-to-air and air-to-ground weaponry. With 2,000 test flights under its belt, it has already proven that it can fly and fight better than most fighters on the IAF inventory. It is vastly superior to the MiG-21, and is not too far behind the Mirage 2000.

It certainly outclasses the Pakistan Air Force JF-17 Thunder, a light fighter like the Tejas, which Pakistan pretends to have developed jointly with China, but is actually Chinese through and through. Unlike the Tejas — a contemporary fighter made of composite materials with an advanced design and sophisticated avionics — the JF-17 is an outdated design. But the PAF has already inducted 60 of these fighters and will eventually operate 250 to 300 JF-17s, half its total fleet.

Yet the IAF is cool towards the Tejas. It is desperate for more fighters — against an assessed requirement of 42 fighter squadrons, the IAF has 34 squadrons today, which will fall to 26 in 2017 if the Rafale is not inducted by then. But the IAF chooses to live with this dangerous shortfall rather than inducting the Tejas more quickly.

Why this indifference towards the Tejas, the alert citizen would ask? She might also have noted a parallel: the Indian Army sticks with the decrepit, night-blind Russian T-72 tank rather than embracing the far more capable and modern Arjun. The Tejas and the Arjun have a common problem: they are excellent indigenous designs that are undermined by poor production quality.

Just as the Heavy Vehicles Factory, Avadi, mismanaged by the Ordnance Factory Board, causes the army to believe that the Arjun is unreliab#8804 similarly Hindustan Aeronautics Limited, a public sector undertaking under the ministry of defence, makes the IAF sceptical about the Tejas.

HAL’s poor production fails to translate the Tejas’ contemporary design into a reliable fighter that takes to the air day after day. Most of Tejas’ problems stem from poor production, not from an inadequate design. But they prevent the fighter from flying, slowing down the flight-test programme and making the IAF believe that the Tejas has serious reliability issues.

None of this gives HAL sleepless nights, since it regards the Tejas as the problem of the Aeronautical Development Agency, which oversees the LCA programme. HAL prefers to focus on building foreign aircraft under licence, a mechanical task that it has done for decades with ever-increasing levels of inefficiency.

T

The Sukhoi-30MKI, which was initially bought fully built from Russia for Rs 30 crore per fighter, is now built by HAL (substantially from Russian systems and sub-systems) for well over 10 times that figure. Building expensively suits HAL well; since its profits are a percentage of production costs, higher costs mean higher profit.

HAL’s indigenisation is nominal and restricted mainly to low-tech components. High-tech assemblies and sub-assemblies are simply imported from Russia and knocked together expensively into “HAL-built” fighters. Everyone is happy: HAL makes hefty profits; Russia sells lots of Sukhoi-30 kits; and the IAF would much rather rely on Sukhoi-built assemblies than on HAL’s dodgy manufacture.

With so much money flowing in from assembly line manufacture, HAL is ill-inclined to engage in the messy business of setting up an assembly line for the indigenous Tejas.

For decades, HAL has obtained production drawings, tools and jigs from abroad, most recently from BAE Systems for manufacturing the Hawk trainer.

In building an assembly line for the Tejas, HAL will have nobody to pass the buck to. The ad hoc Tejas assembly line, which HAL set up two years ago to build 40 Tejas Mark I fighters by 2017, has not yet produced its first fighter.
 
. .
Because after all this time,'not too far behind mirage-2000' is just not good enough.
Spot on! If the Tejas is 'not too far behind the Mirage 2000', should we be proud? Why should we be dancing about for making a fighter that is less than the 4th gen, 30 year old fighter like the Mirage 2000 which was inducted into the French Air Force way back in 1982? This is 2013 for crying out loud! :P
 
.
It certainly outclasses the Pakistan Air Force JF-17 Thunder, a light fighter like the Tejas, which Pakistan pretends to have developed jointly with China, but is actually Chinese through and through. Unlike the Tejas — a contemporary fighter made of composite materials with an advanced design and sophisticated avionics — the JF-17 is an outdated design. But the PAF has already inducted 60 of these fighters and will eventually operate 250 to 300 JF-17s, half its total fleet.

very well said indeed
 
.
Why this indifference to Tejas fighter jet? | idrw.org








HAL’s poor production fails to translate the Tejas’ contemporary design into a reliable fighter that takes to the air day after day. Most of Tejas’ problems stem from poor production, not from an inadequate design. But they prevent the fighter from flying, slowing down the flight-test programme and making the IAF believe that the Tejas has serious reliability issues.

None of this gives HAL sleepless nights, since it regards the Tejas as the problem of the Aeronautical Development Agency, which oversees the LCA programme. HAL prefers to focus on building foreign aircraft under licence, a mechanical task that it has done for decades with ever-increasing levels of inefficiency.

T

The Sukhoi-30MKI, which was initially bought fully built from Russia for Rs 30 crore per fighter, is now built by HAL (substantially from Russian systems and sub-systems) for well over 10 times that figure. Building expensively suits HAL well; since its profits are a percentage of production costs, higher costs mean higher profit.

HAL’s indigenisation is nominal and restricted mainly to low-tech components. High-tech assemblies and sub-assemblies are simply imported from Russia and knocked together expensively into “HAL-built” fighters. Everyone is happy: HAL makes hefty profits; Russia sells lots of Sukhoi-30 kits; and the IAF would much rather rely on Sukhoi-built assemblies than on HAL’s dodgy manufacture.

With so much money flowing in from assembly line manufacture, HAL is ill-inclined to engage in the messy business of setting up an assembly line for the indigenous Tejas.

For decades, HAL has obtained production drawings, tools and jigs from abroad, most recently from BAE Systems for manufacturing the Hawk trainer.

In building an assembly line for the Tejas, HAL will have nobody to pass the buck to. The ad hoc Tejas assembly line, which HAL set up two years ago to build 40 Tejas Mark I fighters by 2017, has not yet produced its first fighter.


that seems a big problem

^^

Guess that can make the article - a gospel truth for the Indians :lol:

What's the author definition of a modern design though ? :D



Kid , talk when you get your fighter up in operational service after almost 30 years - those both fighters are way mature than your paper plane , advancing into 2nd blocks and have integrated more weapons than the Tejas can dream of now ... :P

munna ...jake soja
 
.
munna ...jake soja

The advice that HAL has been giving the Indians for the past 30 years :azn: HELL NO !

We are taking our fighter to the block 2 - good luck signing the deal for the engines first ...

P.S We have had members like you posting childish one line crap and getting pink after a while - so go check the PDF survival guide :azn:
 
.
The advice that HAL has been giving the Indians for the past 30 years :azn: HELL NO !

We are taking our fighter to the block 2 - good luck signing the deal for the engines first ...

P.S We have had members like you posting childish one line crap and getting pink after a while - so go check the PDF survival guide :azn:

abe bhang kha rakhi hai kya????
 
.
there is problem with this fighter. but it is our baby. we should welcome it even if it has some flaws. it is waaaaaaay superior to junk fighter 17 and junk 10 even with the "flaws it is facing now". iaf should be rapped on the knuckle and made to induct this plane for a bring future for indigenous industry.

Idiocy can get you banned here.
 
. . .
I think the main reason is it took too long time, people start loose patience.
 
.
Status
Not open for further replies.

Pakistan Defence Latest Posts

Back
Top Bottom