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Why the chances of Dravida Nadu are no longer illusory

At a press conference last week, when Dravida Munnetra Kazhagam working president M.K. Stalin was asked what he thought of the southern States combining to form “Dravida Nadu,” he replied, “If this happens, it is welcome and it will happen I believe.” Given the brouhaha around his remark, it deserves to be properly contextualised historically and in the backdrop of Tamil politics of recent years.

Historically, the Tamil demand for a separate State is not new. The idea of Dravida Nadu, named for the ethnicity of its original inhabitants, initially gathered momentum with the support of the Justice Party led by Periyar E.V. Ramasamy.

Spurred by events such as the introduction of Hindi in Tamil Nadu schools in 1937, during the early- to mid-20th century, the Tamil political leadership was gripped by fear that under the rule of the Congress Party, Brahminism as a socially dominant force, Hindi, as an official language, and north Indian cultural mores would be afforded hegemonic status, relegating Tamil ethnic sentiment to a secondary position. Consequently, from around 1938, Periyar gave voice to the demand for Dravida Nadu and it continued to find articulation in various forms via his successors at the head of the Dravidian movement, including DMK Chief Ministers C.N. Annadurai and M. Karunanidhi.

This went on until October 1963, when the Government of India, helmed by Prime Minister Jawaharlal Nehru, enacted the 16th Amendment to the Constitution, effectively outlawing what it considered to be secessionist slogans by those seeking to occupy public office.

Fast forward to the late 20th century, and the era of coalition governments saw regional parties come into their own, including Dravidian parties of Tamil Nadu that at times grabbed hefty seat numbers in the Lok Sabha. The very need for a “Dravida Nadu” appeared to evaporate.

However, everything changed with the arrival of the BJP government in 2014, followed by the death of sitting Chief Minister Jayalalithaa of the All India Anna Dravida Munnetra Kazhagam in 2016, and the stepping back from active politics of the DMK supremo, Mr. Karunanidhi, owing to ill health. This leadership vacuum engendered the implosion of the AIADMK and the BJP appears to have sensed the blood in the water. Long denied an entry into State politics owing to the mobilisational force of the Dravidian movement, for the BJP is there now finally an opportunity to prise the Tamil polity apart just enough to sneak in through a captive alliance partner?

The BJP certainly seems to have drawn up clear battle lines. After its recent dramatic victory in Tripura, the toppling of the Lenin statue in Belonia was followed in quick succession by multiple incidents of vandalism against statues of Periyar across Tamil Nadu, as if to put Dravidianism itself on notice.

For the DMK and other Tamil parties it is perhaps the fear that the AIADMK could be propped up at least until the 2019 general election by an influential and deep-pocketed BJP that conjures up the spectre of north Indian dominance in Tamil Nadu, prompting the call for Dravida Nadu
 
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Though you are new to this forum, it is a good post. Keep it up.

Yes, brilliant effort. If we shut our eyes, you might be a Pakistani fan-boy. If you aren't one, this is your cue to offer to give us your Aadhaar card details; no fear of that happening, but it buys you brownie points for your injured and righteous indignation.
 
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You won't be trolling. When we separate from your freeloading Aryan kind.
Who the f**k are "WE" in your post. We Southies have nothing in common with you Maharashtrians. Let's assume Dravida Nadu is a reality, we would never be with you guys as anyone outiside the 5 South Indian states are still North Indians to us.

PS: Stop being a douche and put up your true flags rather than googling some random Indian's pic and putting up our flags. It's time you grow a pair of balls instead of resorting to false flagging
 
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Who the f**k are "WE" in your post. We Southies have nothing in common with you Maharashtrians. Let's assume Dravida Nadu is a reality, we would never be with you guys as anyone outiside the 5 South Indian states are still North Indians to us.

PS: Stop being a douche and put up your true flags rather than googling some random Indian's pic and putting up our flags. It's time you grow a pair of balls instead of resorting to false flagging
Ask them to check my ip, you bhaiyya kunt. Ok?
 
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The North Indians have deliberately kept issues like cauvery alive to make dravidians fight each other. It's classic divide and rule.
In my state Maharashtra, they are injecting the society with casteism(Maratha vs dalit) and sub regionalism( Vidarbha vs Western Maharashtra) to make us fight us amongst each other. While they keep on exploiting us.

Now it's up to us whether we should keep getting played or teach these North Indian foreigners from Caucasian mountains a lesson.

From Caucasian mountains?

You forgot the Central Asians, the Iranians and the Mongols. You must proof-read your posts before posting.
 
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Let's all unite for dravid nadu.:lock:

Wait!! that won't serve the purpose.:laughcry:
 
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From Caucasian mountains?

You forgot the Central Asians, the Iranians and the Mongols. You must proof-read your posts before posting.
Caucus Mountain*

I don't have degree in English literature.

You have anything to say related to this topic. You are welcome.

If you want to be the Grammar Nazi. Don't quote me.
 
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Ask them to check my ip, you bhaiyya kunt. Ok?

:lol::lol: So are you a South Indian or a Maharashtrian? If you are a Maharashtrian and are fighting for Dravida Nadu then there is news for you, the proposed Dravida Nadu doesn't have Maharashtra in it, the South Indians stinking hate your Aryan guts :p:P
 
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Cauvery is a real issue. the waters have to be divided between two states. wishing it to go away won't make it go away

the caste system is not being imposed by outsiders. you are to blame.



none of south indians hate each other
let us say all of us want to be unique



confederation is fine. such privileges will extend to all states not just southern and western ones


Bullshit.

The Tamils despise the Kannadigas.
The Kannadigas hate the Tamil.
The Telengana Telugus hate the Andhra Telugus.
Everybody hates the Mallus.

And Maharashtra became Maharashtra when the Maharashtrians wanted the Gujaratis out of their hair and split Bombay state.

We don't need a shady customer to preach this ethnic nationalism under the guise of being a progressive of some kind. Certainly not on a Pakistani defence forum.

Caucus Mountain*

I don't have degree in English literature.

You have anything to say related to this topic. You are welcome.

If you want to be the Grammar Nazi. Don't quote me.

I want to be the truth and transparency Nazi. And you are a prime target.

Who the f**k are "WE" in your post. We Southies have nothing in common with you Maharashtrians. Let's assume Dravida Nadu is a reality, we would never be with you guys as anyone outiside the 5 South Indian states are still North Indians to us.

PS: Stop being a douche and put up your true flags rather than googling some random Indian's pic and putting up our flags. It's time you grow a pair of balls instead of resorting to false flagging

I hate these false-flagging creeps.
 
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At a press conference last week, when Dravida Munnetra Kazhagam working president M.K. Stalin was asked what he thought of the southern States combining to form “Dravida Nadu,” he replied, “If this happens, it is welcome and it will happen I believe.” Given the brouhaha around his remark, it deserves to be properly contextualised historically and in the backdrop of Tamil politics of recent years.

Historically, the Tamil demand for a separate State is not new. The idea of Dravida Nadu, named for the ethnicity of its original inhabitants, initially gathered momentum with the support of the Justice Party led by Periyar E.V. Ramasamy.

Spurred by events such as the introduction of Hindi in Tamil Nadu schools in 1937, during the early- to mid-20th century, the Tamil political leadership was gripped by fear that under the rule of the Congress Party, Brahminism as a socially dominant force, Hindi, as an official language, and north Indian cultural mores would be afforded hegemonic status, relegating Tamil ethnic sentiment to a secondary position. Consequently, from around 1938, Periyar gave voice to the demand for Dravida Nadu and it continued to find articulation in various forms via his successors at the head of the Dravidian movement, including DMK Chief Ministers C.N. Annadurai and M. Karunanidhi.

This went on until October 1963, when the Government of India, helmed by Prime Minister Jawaharlal Nehru, enacted the 16th Amendment to the Constitution, effectively outlawing what it considered to be secessionist slogans by those seeking to occupy public office.

Fast forward to the late 20th century, and the era of coalition governments saw regional parties come into their own, including Dravidian parties of Tamil Nadu that at times grabbed hefty seat numbers in the Lok Sabha. The very need for a “Dravida Nadu” appeared to evaporate.

However, everything changed with the arrival of the BJP government in 2014, followed by the death of sitting Chief Minister Jayalalithaa of the All India Anna Dravida Munnetra Kazhagam in 2016, and the stepping back from active politics of the DMK supremo, Mr. Karunanidhi, owing to ill health. This leadership vacuum engendered the implosion of the AIADMK and the BJP appears to have sensed the blood in the water. Long denied an entry into State politics owing to the mobilisational force of the Dravidian movement, for the BJP is there now finally an opportunity to prise the Tamil polity apart just enough to sneak in through a captive alliance partner?

The BJP certainly seems to have drawn up clear battle lines. After its recent dramatic victory in Tripura, the toppling of the Lenin statue in Belonia was followed in quick succession by multiple incidents of vandalism against statues of Periyar across Tamil Nadu, as if to put Dravidianism itself on notice.

For the DMK and other Tamil parties it is perhaps the fear that the AIADMK could be propped up at least until the 2019 general election by an influential and deep-pocketed BJP that conjures up the spectre of north Indian dominance in Tamil Nadu, prompting the call for Dravida Nadu

:lol::lol: The same Stalin was conferring welcomes and shawls and having meetings with Modi not many days back, maybe BJP and DMK will come together in 2019 :cheesy::cheesy:
 
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Ask them to check my ip, you bhaiyya kunt. Ok?

It's happened a hundred times before. The defence usually is for someone or the other to be asked to check the IP, or to offer to give Aadhaar details. It really is boring, doesn't work any more.
 
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@Nilgiri we have a new recruit in Pindi. That'll make it three. :lol: Another Tamil, Dravida stuff.

It's happened a hundred times before. The defence usually is for someone or the other to be asked to check the IP, or to offer to give Aadhaar details. It really is boring, doesn't work any more.
Ignore the Pindi boys.
 
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:lol::lol: So are you a South Indian or a Maharashtrian? If you are a Maharashtrian and are fighting for Dravida Nadu then there is news for you, the proposed Dravida Nadu doesn't have Maharashtra in it, the South Indians stinking hate your Aryan guts :p:P
If Dravida Nadu separates, western and eastern India will go its separate ways too. All I want is my state to be separated from North India. Ok bhaiyye?

I am not against India. Only against North India and North Indians.

North scum need to be shown their place.
 
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