Why state specially Army fails to take action against TLP ? (My Opinion)

[Zarvan]

People often say that establishment is responsible for TLP birth and they are secretly in bed with them. In my opinion this is not the case Hafiz Saeed and Masood Azhar are known to be establishment guys they could be and they could be not but never ever they have used such crap language against Army. Thing is the operation Army did in Lal Masjid and the power boost it gave to TTP and the war we faced for next 10 years and still facing is still in Army mind these operations and deaths of these people specially their leaders gives them boost. They are not like robbers or other criminals who after two slaps will beg for mercy. In my department where I work majority agree with TLP demands not methods. This is the case with most other places Sorry killing them or arresting them would result in many taking militancy path

 

[313ghazi]

You're probably partly right. In my opinion though;

1. TLP have no established militant power.
2. Many TLP supporters are working class people who do have jobs etc. They won't face bullets. Everyone loves rupee too much.

 

[xyxmt]

why??
because its not Army's job

 

[YeBeWarned]

Not failed, you cant stop the first public reactions in countries like Pakistan, even if Army pops in the damage was done in few hours .. come on guys stop been so stupid and blame everything on Army and calling them failures , they handle this very professionally , and now we don't have a problem at hand, let the ISI focus on the external threats such as NDS and RAW .

 

[Proudpakistaniguy]

Pakistan had the wildest Halloween party the world has ever seen. Hats off to party animal Khadim Rizvi

https://twitter.com/x/status/1058043251872153601

and Maulna pen di siri is a miscreant i.e con artist who is manipulating the youth of our country and using ashiq e rasool slogan to bring destruction and havoc in country

 

[maithil]

Establishment does seem to be capitulating to Khadim Rizvi. And that’s not an encouraging sign. Even pro-establishment people are making fun of them.

State seems to have surrendered and that’s not a comforting feeling.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1058415944064794624

https://twitter.com/x/status/1058407128497639425

 

[Mrc]

It's not army job

 

[GumNaam]

all this Army bashing sounds very familiar...where oh where have I heard this all before, hmm, let's see...
ABAY YAR...kahan thaa...yad kar GumNaam yar yad kar.

OH YES...just 2 years ago, when the ttp was beaten to a bloody pulp into nonexistance...

case in point and lesson learned? The Army will make sure that public gets a THOROUGH ARSE-WHOOPING at the hands of these terroristic dallah-mullas and then it will lay the smack down on them. This tlp is NOTHING compared to the ttp, not even worth their toe-nails. They'll be wiped out and thrown away like yesterday's eaten chicken bones but ONLY after the very public who jumped up and down on the emotional speeches of dallah-mullas gets a royal beating and humiliation at the hands of these dallah-mullahs.

I'm sorry, but our people (especially the middle to lower class) deserve this arse-whooping and humiliation from the dallah-mullahs since they are the ones who keep giving these loosers attention.

So relief to aye gi, stay tuned. magar pitai PEHLAY ho gi.

@313ghazi
yar I loved this term you came up with, "dallah-mullas"!!!

 

[Proudpakistaniguy]

Somewhere between "Gustakh-e-Rasool" and "Ashiq-e-Rasool" we have lost peaceful and beautiful "Deen-e-Rasool

 

[Dark-Destroyer]

How stupid are the people to come out on the streets look at this guys mouth he has no manners in how to talk he is calling people dogs he is calling people kafirs what islam is he propagating who is he to call someone a kafir is beyond understanding unfortunately the truth is our people are the real stupid ignortant fools for listenting to these clowns from the circus

 

[delta2]

Please, let us not simplify things too much here.

The TTP was pre-planned in certain capitals around the world, just like the ISIS was and still is being supported.

The Pakistan military has been under immense pressure since day one and they have tried their almost best to sail the seas among storms of all kinds, the worst being domestically rooted in corruption due to the utmost incompetence of the politic and bureaucratic class. The police and judiciary didn't make things easier for the rest of the state either.

The Red Mosque operation was an excuse used to the launch the TTP. Things could have been handled differently, for example by surrounding them and essentially starving them. They would have surrendered eventually as soon as the food would have run out. No mullah ever cared more than for his own interests and comforts. The Red Mosque operation was a big mistake and most likely was planned somewhere else. If you look at the geo-political environment at that time, the Pakistani State was being put under immense pressure. The mistake was made and the Pakistani establishment took the bait.

The TLP is nothing but the PMLN. You have remember that the PMLN has been headquartered outside Pakistan for more than a decade now. They have a strong support from certain sectors of this world because the PMLN is essentially an anti-state entity. The fact that the TLP was absolutely silent and didn't utter a word against the PMLN and never directly postured against the PMLN or Nawaz Sharif even after they essentially changed the Sacred Law.

No State ever allows corruption to be involved in dealings with its strongest and longest lasting allies and friends, especially when its survival is at stake. The PMLN did just that. They committed as much corruption they could get away with when it comes to the CPEC. The PMLN is essentially an actively wing pawn for certain powers that be who would like to see Pakistani state in a weakened positon.

Let us not play checkers when the anti-state elements are thinking 10 moves ahead in their game of chess.

 

[GumNaam]

How stupid are the people to come out on the streets look at this guys mouth he has no manners in how to talk he is calling people dogs he is calling people kafirs what islam is he propagating who is he to call someone a kafir is beyond understanding unfortunately the truth is our people are the real stupid ignortant fools for listenting to these clowns from the circus

well why do you think the Military is sitting back and buying its time with these people??? If they really wanted, as Fawad Chaudhry said, these jokers wouldn't even know what hit them. The Military can take them out in a matter of MINUTES! But they are letting the public suffer and get humiliated by the hands of these dalla-mullas BECAUSE this very public is what let's these dalla-mullas keep raising there fugly faces! Only after a thorough beating and ridiculing, when the masses literally BEG the Military to intervene, will they swoop in and eliminate these goons.

yeh sab jaan booch kar khamoshi ikhtyaar ki jaarahi hay...samjha karo, hamari awam ko bhugat nay do aur seekh nay do.

 

[Kabira]

People often say that establishment is responsible for TLP birth and they are secretly in bed with them. In my opinion this is not the case Hafiz Saeed and Masood Azhar are known to be establishment guys they could be and they could be not but never ever they have used such crap language against Army. Thing is the operation Army did in Lal Masjid and the power boost it gave to TTP and the war we faced for next 10 years and still facing is still in Army mind these operations and deaths of these people specially their leaders gives them boost. They are not like robbers or other criminals who after two slaps will beg for mercy. In my department where I work majority agree with TLP demands not methods. This is the case with most other places Sorry killing them or arresting them would result in many taking militancy path

You are right to some extent. But lal majid was militant group. And boost it gave to TTP was because of lawlessness in FATA and afghani jihadis. Not to forget all political parties sided with extremists back then against army. Swat was handed over to jihadis by ANP and army toke back seat.

Now I doubt things will get that bad as people in general are against TTP.

But its also a fact that for now TLP is isn't seen as anti-state till they start killing and threaten to over throw government with violence. Now some people will say talking against army general is akin to being anti-state. Maybe in other parts of the world but not in Pakistan if the reason given is to save Islam and with it Pakistan in the minds of religious nuts.

 

[Zarvan]

You're probably partly right. In my opinion though;

1. TLP have no established militant power.
2. Many TLP supporters are working class people who do have jobs etc. They won't face bullets. Everyone loves rupee too much.

No many would remember Osama Bin Laden was super rich

 

[Path-Finder]

operation in Punjab that was postponed by tooi party must be carried out. LeJ type mofo used this opportunity to disrupt peace when TLP started their rally.