Why South Korea is so distinctively Christian

[Aepsilons]

Without China's cultural traits, your own culture will look that of the cave men.
Without the Chinese characters, you won't even have your own vocabularies.

I'm not saying that the Chinese did not influence Japan, because nothing could be further from the truth. Yes, Japan , particularly the early period, was influenced by Chinese buddhist missionaries, bringing to Japan the Buddhist faith. But before this, Japan had already a vibrant Shinto religion, which was not supplanted by Buddhism, but merely incorporated the Buddhist principles. That is the unique trait of Japanese culture and civilization. We incorporate new theories, new philosophies and apply it to the Japanese context.

China had a role in introducing the Confucian culture to Japan, but this culture then developed its own uniquely Japanese traits. As for the writing system, Japanese writing incorporates a dualist system. We use Kanji (Hanzi), but we also incorporate our own uniquely Japanese character system -- Hiragana and Katakana. You see, Kanji is incorporated into the overall system.

I don't care that the Korean ultranationalists' opinions.
The fact has showed that they are an uncreative nation without the capability to create their own original culture.

The Koreans are vehemently proud and a martial race of people. They resemble us Japanese in many ways; or one could say that Japanese resemble them...in many ways. lol.

As for your claims of Koreans not producing their own culture , that is absurd. They have their own unique culture. Remember they do not even use Chinese characters (Hanja), but use a phonetic writing system known as Hangul. Which is very similar to Japanese Katakana and Hiragana , which also is based on a phonetic system.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

The Koreans are vehemently proud and a martial race of people. They resemble us Japanese in many ways; or one could say that Japanese resemble them...in many ways. lol.

As for your claims of Koreans not producing their own culture , that is absurd. They have their own unique culture. Remember they do not even use Chinese characters (Hanja), but use a phonetic writing system known as Hangul. Which is very similar to Japanese Katakana and Hiragana , which also is based on a phonetic system.

Without Hanja, their culture is now becoming freaking superficial.

Even their ministry of education is now advocating to bring back Hanja in order to preserve their tradition (a Chinese offshore subculture in fact).

 

[Aepsilons]

Without Hanja, their culture is now becoming freaking superficial.

Even their ministry of education is now advocating to bring back Hanja in order to preserve their tradition (a Chinese offshore subculture in fact).

The Korean people are ancient, my dear. They are far older then the Jirchens, or even the Mongols. They have maintained their racial continuity for the longest, preserving their language since time immemorial. They are not Chinese, they do not consider themselves a Sinitic race of people. They, like Japanese, are closer to the Altaic group than any Han language group.

Hanja is practically non-existent. Koreans cannot understand Chinese characters, whatsoever. It was a Royal Proclamation made by the Joseon Dynasty's King Sejong the Great who promulgated the Hangul writing system, and the eradication of the Hanja script.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

The Korean people are ancient, my dear. They are far older then the Jirchens, or even the Mongols. They have, maintained their racial continuity for the longest, preserving their language since time immemorial. They are not Chinese, they do not consider themselves a Sinitic race of people. They, like Japanese, are closer to the Altaic group than any Han language group.

Hanja is practically non-existent. Koreans cannot understand Chinese characters, whatsoever. It was a Royal Proclamation made by the Joseon Dynasty's King Sejong the Great who promulgated the Hangul writing system, and the eradication of the Hanja script.

An ancient race, yet no trace of their so-called "ancient civilization" has been left in East Asia.

A hollow race indeed.

Those Korean ultranationalists are such as joke, a proud nations need to revere the Christianity at the cost of abandoning its traditional East Asian religion?

 

[Aepsilons]

Ideologies are unique because they can flow into a civilization and change , influence the very foundation of that civilization. Let us take for example Buddhism. Buddhism is a South Asian religion, it is not native to East Asia. Yet despite this fact, Buddhism has influenced the culture of China, Korea and Japan.

In China, Buddhism is intertwined with Taoism ; many adherents of Buddhism also believe in the Taoism principles of a 'cosmic' order. In Japan, Buddhists practice Buddhism with the native Shinto religious precepts. Same in Korea. So the point I'm saying is that for over a millenia, East Asia was already influenced by a 'foreign' culture -- Buddhism. A religion that is native to South Asia -- India/Nepal.

The recent influx of other foreign religions, particularly Abrahamic faiths is nothing new. Be it Christianity, Judaism or Islam.

A hollow race indeed.

Theirs is not hollow at all, just because you don't agree with some of their unique cultural dynamic doesn't mean theirs is "hollow" or the sort. Don't be so biased and subjective.

Those Korean ultranationalists are such as joke, a proud nations need to revere the Christianity at the cost of abandoning its traditional East Asian religion?

The Korean ultranationalists are Korean. Period. Korea is a nation that is not merely Buddhist, but a nation that is home to Buddhists, Christians, Jews, Muslims, Shamans, and non-believers. They are for a strong and proud Korean national identity. It is not focused on merely religious principles, but theirs is to support policies to further Korea's national interests and for the reunification of a 'Greater Korea'.

 

[Grand Historian]

The Korean people are ancient, my dear. They are far older then the Jirchens, or even the Mongols. They have, maintained their racial continuity for the longest, preserving their language since time immemorial. They are not Chinese, they do not consider themselves a Sinitic race of people. They, like Japanese, are closer to the Altaic group than any Han language group.

Hanja is practically non-existent. Koreans cannot understand Chinese characters, whatsoever. It was a Royal Proclamation made by the Joseon Dynasty's King Sejong the Great who promulgated the Hangul writing system, and the eradication of the Hanja script.

Not really,Koreans are a mix of Sinitic(settlers from Yan,Qi,Qin,Han etc.) ,Tungustic(Mohe,Jurchens),Paleo Siberian,Old Japonic(San Han? early Silla/Baekje) and Old Koreanic(Goguryeo,Okjeo, etc) speakers.

Koreans as well as Japanese were divided into different countries that spoke different languages how can their be a united identity?

Gojoseon is just another offshoot of Chinese culture,Jizi's descendants were pushed towards Liaodong, eventually towards the Korean peninsula,while Wei Man conquered Gojoseon.

Korean nationalism manifests in interesting ways,I'm not talking about claims of Cao Cao or Confucius rather we see Shang and Yan are labeled as Dongyi and Baekje held vast amount of territory in modern day China.

Considering how Japanese are basically an offshoot of Koreans mixed with ancient Siberians its no surprise if they are genetically/linguistically related.

As for Hangul,the Yanban scorned it and still continued to use Hanzi.

Theirs is not hollow at all, just because you don't agree with some of their unique cultural dynamic doesn't mean theirs is "hollow" or the sort. Don't be so biased and subjective.

Its hollow when they rely on fabricated history to puff up their ego.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Not really,Koreans are a mix of Sinitic(settlers from Yan,Qi,Qin,Han etc.) ,Tungustic(Mohe,Jurchens),Paleo Siberian,Old Japonic(San Han?) and Old Koreanic(Goguryeo,Okjeo, etc) speakers.

Koreans as well as Japanese were divided into different countries that spoke different languages how can their be a united identity?

Gojoseon is just another offshoot of Chinese culture,Jizi's descendants were pushed towards Liaodong, eventually towards the Korean peninsula,while Wei Man conquered Gojoseon.

Korean nationalism manifests in interesting ways,I'm not talking about claims of Cao Cao or Confucius rather we see Shang and Yan are labeled as Dongyi and Baekje held vast amount of territory in modern day China.

Considering how Japanese are basically an offshoot of Koreans mixed with ancient Siberians its no surprise if they are genetically/linguistically related.

As for Hangul,the Yanban scorned it and still continued to use Hanzi.


Its hollow when they rely on fabricated history to puff up their ego.

Most Koreans are Tungid (flat pancake face) with the Nordsinid influence.

While the North Chinese are predominantly Nordsinid with minor Tungid influence.

Of course, there might have some overlapped phenotype between Koreans and the North Chinese, but the North Chinese overall is a Sinic people in its core, while Koreans are Tungustic people in its core.

So overall the North Chinese and South Chinese are still more closely related to each other as they both have Sinic as the core of the group.

 

[Aepsilons]

Legend and details for the various samples can be seen in. Notice please that CB (Cambodian) is mistakenly placed in Northern Asia, when it should be in Southern Asia (i.e. SE Asia) along with Vietnamese (VN) and Vietnamese-Koreans (VC probably though elsewhere tagged as VK).

Notice also that there are two K=5 in the global cluster analysis (C), one of them marked as RH, what means "recombination hotspot", which is a technical albeit interesting matter they deal with in extent in the supplementary materials. The conclusion seems to be that these recombination hotspots can induce distortions in the cluster analysis and that should be dealt with in order to prevent confusing results.

Anyhow the most valid run for the global dataset is surely K=4, showing four neatly distinct clusters: Africans, Europeans (or West Eurasians), Amerindians and East Asians. The minor "admixture" apparent levels among Amerindians and some East Asians (Mongolians, Cambodians) may or not mean admixture. In my opinion, based on comparison with other different studies, I think it does not but rather indicates a lesser degree of affinity with the main cluster and therefore some small degree of affinity with other Eurasians.

Observe the genetic similarity between Japanese and Koreans.

As for Hangul,the Yanban scorned it and still continued to use Hanzi.

After the proclamation of King Sejong the Great in the 15th century, Hanja was reduced in importance. Since then, all Royal Court documents to local forms of writing were done in Hangul.

 

[Grand Historian]

Most Koreans are Tungid (flat pancake face) with the Nordsinid influence.

While the North Chinese are predominantly Nordsinid with minor Tungid influence.

Of course, there might have some overlapped phenotype between Koreans and the North Chinese, but the North Chinese overall is a Sinic people in its core, while Koreans are Tungustic people in its core.

So overall the North Chinese and South Chinese are still more closely related to each other as they both have Sinic as the core of the group.

What I was trying to stress is that no population is pure,despite what Koreans think.

Korean mDNA resembles surrounding Paleosiberian tribes while their Y DNA shows that some originated from Sino Tibetans,Mongolics,Tungustics etc.

North Chinese would have larger variation than Koreans.

 

[Aepsilons]

Korean nationalism manifests in interesting ways,I'm not talking about claims of Cao Cao or Confucius rather we see Shang and Yan are labeled as Dongyi and Baekje held vast amount of territory in modern day China.

Objectively, the first instance of Korean nationalism was seen during the reign of King Gwanggaeto the Great in the 4th century. His subsequent subjugation of Baekjae as well as victory against the Chinese Yan Dynasty established a uniquely Korean identity, and for the first time in the peninsula's history, a unified Kingdom.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

What I was trying to stress is that no population is pure,despite what Koreans think.

Korean mDNA resembles surrounding Paleosiberian tribes while their Y DNA shows that some originated from Sino Tibetans,Mongolics,Tungustics etc.

North Chinese would have larger variation than Koreans.

The Korean men are closer in phenotype to the North Chinese men than their women do, which is quite strange.

The majority of North Chinese are still quite Sinic looking, only a minority produces a Tungustic phenotype.

 

[Grand Historian]

After the proclamation of King Sejong the Great in the 15th century, Hanja was reduced in importance. Since then, all Royal Court documents to local forms of writing were done in Hangul.

Then why are the Annals of Joseon in Hanzi?

 

[Aepsilons]

Korean mDNA resembles surrounding Paleosiberian tribes while their Y DNA

Objectively that is because the progenitor of the Mongol Race was said to have come from Siberia. The Proto Mongoloids, from which all Mongoloid subgroups would stem from. The fact that the Koreans have a distinct mitochondrial linkage , same as some Japanese screening studies -- indicates the near continuity of these two groups of North East Asians to the original progenitors.

 

[Grand Historian]

Objectively, the first instance of Korean nationalism was seen during the reign of King Gwanggaeto the Great in the 4th century. His subsequent subjugation of Baekjae as well as victory against the Chinese Yan Dynasty established a uniquely Korean identity, and for the first time in the peninsula's history, a unified Kingdom.

How can you define this as nationalism?

Goguryeo,Baekje and Silla didn't view each other as the same and spoke different languages.

Neither did Goguryeo refer to themselves as a sucessor state of Gojoseon.

 

[Aepsilons]

Then why are the Annals of Joseon in Hanzi?

Not only in Joseon, but even during the early writings of Japanese Imperial Court Proclamation -- it was in Kanji (Hanzi). In those days, the writing system used was Chinese.