Why do Muslims keep arguing in the same fashion? To claim the paradigm "Muslims aren't peaceful/bright/industrious but others aren't, too" doesn't prove anything, but it strengthens the opposition's case. It just shows that not only are the Muslims dim-witted, they choose to blame others when it comes to their shortcomings.
In addition to what Developereo said: all the peoples of all the different regions of the world have gone through this, which means that it is a natural progression and comes with being people. When the others were killing themselves the Muslims were building and creating stuff that looked like magic to the west. In fact its not a progression but a cycle; Middle ages -> prosperity -> world wars, you get the idea.
Because religion and science are in conflict with each other, so you have to choose one!
More importantly religion kills innovation. Most of the so-called Islamic Golden age scientist were Iranian and didn't even believe in god. I always wondered about the extent religious people, especially Muslims and Christians are willing to go to strengthen their own faith by trying to forcefully make a particular historical figure approve of their beliefs by fabricating documents! This just shows their own lack of belief!
The Church and science are in conflict. It would even be wrong to say that Christianity and science are in conflict. There are many detailed accounts of ancient western historians and travelers who came to the middle east and were amazed to see science, not co-existing with, but being encouraged by the religion i.e. Islam. This was around the time the Church was burning anyone who picked up a pen.
Pick up a book and start reading. Almost all the ancient Muslim mathematicians who's work I have studied were Arabs and definitely not Iranians. Some of their works and lives are well documented not just by other Muslims and themselves but westerners who came seeking their knowledge. Also, these scholars were spread form Morocco to Iraq.
What is the funniest is the extent to which some peoples are willing to go to strengthen their own ancient racial superiority syndromes by fabricating claims out of thin air about things which they do not know of and have never read. This just shows their sense of inferiority, and I'm talking to a lot of people here on this thread.
Decimal number is Indian. Even Algebra of Arabs was based on Indian mathematician.
Algebra is based on the work by Indian mathematicians just as much as numerical analysis, combinatorics and linear programming is based on the concept of solving simultaneous equations through substitution (addition/subtraction method not included). And I'm not talking about Linear Algebra or Abstract Algebra. Just the basic Algebra which I'm sure you studied at school. The numerals are geographically ancient Indian but had different input from different areas of ancient geographic India, just as the number zero did. The decimal has a similar story but was further expanded into what we see today by the Arabs.
The statement "Muslims killing muslims" is being responded to by saying Gandhi (Hindu) was killed by a Hindu etc.
the point of "Muslims are killing Muslims" is that Muslims are killing other Muslims because of religious intolerance. And that has not happened as much in other religions as it is happening with Islam.
Let me introduce you to a few subjects, namely, World History, Religious Anthropology, Western History, European History, Muslim History, Middle Eastern History, South Asian History and the World Wars. This should be sufficient for a few days.
The Indus Valley Civ's writings are not deciphered yet. Where did you get it that they developed the Numerals?
BTW - your textbooks have disowned the history and culture of the land. You are either mongols/arabs or indians. If you are descenddent of IVC (as you claim) and then embraced other cultures/civilizations, atleast respect it and own it completely. Can you point me to any historian/text that is taught in schools/ univs where I can read a continuous chain from IVC to present day pakistan? I thought the "idea of pakistan" originated somewhere in 7th century AD (after Islam came into the world)
I was hoping you'd ask. Hmmm...actually there are quite a few. When I took the World Civilizations-I course I was subjected to 3-4 quite heavy books. Made us read pretty much everything; IVC, Ashoka, Chandra Gupta Mauria, etc., etc. Don't remember most of it now though. So obviously, what you thought is of no value or consequence
ps: At least in my Uni proffs weren't limited to any curricula. They pretty much decided on what they wanted to teach, made their own course packs from articles and readings from all over the place, then gave "supplementary readings" which were even thicker books. Then they offered the course with details and let the students decide if they wanted to take it. You see my madrassah believed that knowledge did not come with set curricula and so it got all sorts of people to teach us; some proffs there were atheists, come socialists, some feminists, some religious, some nothing but mathematicians,so on and so forth.
The Muslims should create their own version of the Nobel, especially when Obama received it.
Anyway...The annual prize, whatever its name, will be for the Muslim judged by a panel of mullahs to be the most creative in interpreting scientific discoveries and inventions according to the Quran, thereby diluting the prestige of the Nobel.
Naaah...the previous scientific discoveries mentioned in the Quran were discovered and told by western scientists, who incidentally converted after that. We can't do it since we don't know much about the Quran or the sciences, we'll just leave it to the West again.
