Why 'secular' Narendra Modi bashers must be ignored

[prototype]

The money that you looted does not belong to you. People trusted you and brought you to the power, while you kept on looting them decades after decades, even the magnitude of loot keeps on increasing month after month.
You hide you loot in foreign banks so that none can come to know about it.
For you second point, you dont have to quote exaples of chulbul and robin, examples of Gujrat, Madhya Pradesh, Uttarakhand, Himachal Pradesh and even Bihar etc.etc. etc. would be sufficient.
I choose to keep the baby snake, not becoz it doesn't bite, but becoz it is not experienced in biting and since its a baby, it might be possible it doesnt bite at all, afterall not all snakes are poisonous. But for that, it has to be given a chance.

So absically u claim that govts in Gujarat,MP,HP and Utarakhand first looted the public and then spend it for the development of people,can u give example of any one instance.

 

[Gin ka Pakistan]

i thought u people hate BJP,u r one exception and i like that.

It was congress who divide India and its neighbours. I can bet if BJP was before 1900 century there was no need of division.
Congress divide and rule.

 

[Bang Galore]

It was congress who divide India and its neighbours. I can bet if BJP was before 1900 century there was no need of division.
Congress divide and rule.

Nice try of dividing & ruling but no cigar. Many Hindu mahasabha members were part of the congress just as there were Muslim league members. Do you actually think we will fall for that trick?

 

[KS]

Basically u r implying the same here what I mean,sit down its we who decide what u should do.

I did not imply the same though you thought I implied the same.

In 2002 it was Pakistan that received the hard talk from US seeing India was ready to press ahead with the war and without any concrete steps on ground the Indians were going to cross the LOC.

Mr.Bush made Musharraf close most of the terrorist camps along the LOC and that was why India backed down.

This does not make any sense my friend,since u clearly circumvented my question,what was the exact reason due to which India backed down,unless US contained them

I did not circumvent your question - the reason India backed down in 2002 was US made Musharraf close down most of the terrorist camps in with immediate effect, a fact acknowledged by Musharraf himself.

But what happened after 26/11 - we are just destroying our forests for producing papers for dossiers with no result.

26/11 had not happened if the effective measures(what u call) were already in place

That doesn't excuse anyone for a shoddy response post 26/11. And FYKI it was Congress that was in rule in both State and Centre. So your point being ?

Hafiz sayed's let was involved in both the attacks,which basically means he was still a free man after parliament attack's also.

Yes, but as I said because of the closure of Terrorist camps in , the infiltration and insurgency in Kashmir went reduced to a great extent.

Hmmm,basically means ,not a single incident happened in India after parliament attacks,is it?

I hate to repeat it, but the use of Op.Parakram was that most of the Terrorist training camps in were shut down and as a result insurgency which was at its peak was significantly reduced. That itself is a great result.

BTW why this argument about the results of Op.Parakram and what it has got to do with Modi ?

 

[prototype]

It was congress who divide India and its neighbours. I can bet if BJP was before 1900 century there was no need of division.
Congress divide and rule.

And i thought Congress helped u nation from escaping the clutches of India,does not ur statement compromise the very existence of ur nation.

 

[KS]

And i thought Congress helped u nation from escaping the clutches of India,does not ur statement compromise the very existence of ur nation.

That is one rare occasion for which I heartily thank the Congress for !

 

[metro]

So absically u claim that govts in Gujarat,MP,HP and Utarakhand first looted the public and then spend it for the development of people,can u give example of any one instance.

No.
My point being, even if BJP is also involved in corruption, its still working for the development of their state and people. Development is primary and corruption is secondary, while when it comes to congress ruled states, corruption takes the top-priority and development always takes the back seat.
You know why this happens in congress..?
Becoz the person in charge, the leader, the chief, the she-woman, is the corrupt-est of all.

 

[prototype]

I did not imply the same though you thought I implied the same.

In 2002 it was Pakistan that received the hard talk from US seeing India was ready to press ahead with the war and without any concrete steps on ground the Indians were going to cross the LOC.

Mr.Bush made Musharraf close most of the terrorist camps along the LOC and that was why India backed down.

So after 26/11 was it India who received the hard talk,have a check again to which of ur point i responded.

And this point of Pakistan closing down terror camp is not helping since it did no better to Indian security and neither did the culprits were handed out as sought by India.

I did not circumvent your question - the reason India backed down in 2002 was US made Musharraf close down most of the terrorist camps in with immediate effect, a fact acknowledged by Musharraf himself.

But what happened after 26/11 - we are just destroying our forests for producing papers for dossiers with no result.

India demanded that Pakistan stop the activities of LeT and JeM,frankly tell did that ever happened rather than some ceremonial closings of some terror camps which were inaugurated again with different footprints.

Did Pakistan handed over any of the culprits,One of the big promise by advani after the attack which was intensively shown on all news channels those days were "we will teach those people a lesson who put Indian security on stake",and did that happened,so who were the people who took classes from India,the reality is that nothing happened,and like usual we folded back with the self congratulatory messages.[/QUOTE]

That doesn't excuse anyone for a shoddy response post 26/11. And FYKI it was Congress that was in rule in both State and Centre. So your point being ?

My point being the answer to ur responce,hafiz roaming free in pakistan,and it had nothing to do with Congress being in rule in both center and state.

Yes, but as I said because of the closure of Terrorist camps in , the infiltration and insurgency in Kashmir went reduced to a great extent.

AFAIk every attack that happened in India post parliament attacks keep to grow in its magnitude,were was the reduction?

I hate to repeat it, but the use of Op.Parakram was that most of the Terrorist training camps in were shut down and as a result insurgency which was at its peak was significantly reduced. That itself is a great result.

already replied to that part.

BTW why this argument about the results of Op.Parakram and what it has got to do with Modi ?

Diversion happens sometime,if I noticed u last line earlier,i could have stopped myself from the pain of posting this message,anyway i think we should end this here,otherwise we r gona running in circles all night.

 

[Rig Vedic]

Kindly stop issuing these certificates.



Well the depth of your reasoning has certainly come to the fore when you claimed that MMS chose a corrupt person (P.J. Thomas) to be a CVC. Standard shallow understanding. The case of palmolein import is almost certainly motivated by the fact that the communist government was going after the previous CM Karunakaran. Thomas was a mid level officer, hardly someone who would have independently taken the decision. He is simply a fall guy. The fact that one has to go into this pending case (and i stress pending) from 1994 shows that there is no other muck to throw at him. A corrupt guy does not become honest after one incident & no one else has ever accused him of corruption after that incident (including Lyngdoh who brought the case to the SC), which is why the SC made it clear that it was not commenting on the merits of the case. The mistake MMS did was to make this guy CVC against the written dissent of the leader of the opposition & the fact that an FIR had been filed, mo matter how flimsy especially since it was for the position of the country's top graft fighter.

As for the rest of the corruption incidences, what did you expect the PM to say, that he was aware? In any case much better than Advani saying that he was not aware that Jashwant Singh was going to Kandahar!

Actually it was the PMO under the control of Sonia's boy Chavan that doctored Thomas' file.

And all MMS could do was put on a pathetic display. Not to mention the gazillion other scams.

 

[Rig Vedic]

If it was not for him in 1991 only God knows what would have happened.

The credit for the reforms of 1991 rightly belongs to Narasimha Rao.

 

[Rig Vedic]

even though i m not modi hater from core but plz don't live in this delusion that any muslim in india likes modi. they don't & they never will.

There are plenty of Muslims in Gujarat who vote BJP.

 

[KS]

@prototype :

Just two points before I too end this ---

• India did not achieve everything it set out to accomplish, but never the less achieved enough to not call it a failure or such.
  
• As a result of that (Op.Parakram) the Kashmir insurgency was stifled and that itself is a significant achievement.Kashmir insurgency is also a terrorist act and that has definitely reduced post 2002 and that is the reduction we are speaking about.

 

[aakash_2410]

We need modi in India! I'm Gujarati myself, I know what he has done for Gujarat. People may moan about the height of of Narmada dam and the amount of area had to evacuated but it generates 1,450 MW power way more than some small states total electricity production.

He has been signing the MoUs worth 400-500 billion dollars [nearly half of the India's economy] for past three years. You may argue that they are just MoUs not contracts but imagine even 40-50% [to be bit realistic] of the MoUs get implemented?

He has changed the whole face Ahmedabad. And the fly overs, roads, infrastructure, different lanes for fast buses and everything he has done is just marvellous. Opened emergency lines for taxis, rickshaws, police, fire truck and ambulance. [and yes it actually does work they do come really fast.]

Some may argue that he is bit of a dictator but if this is the dictatorship, i'd much prefer this. And corruption has also decreased repidly, I'm not saying there is no corruption in Gujarat there is so much corruption but it's way less than what it was before he came in power. He also has his own personal telephone service, you can directly talk to him if you have a solution or advice to give. In short he is Anil Kapoor of NAYAK!

 

[KS]

^ Yeah yeah we know. Get away you right wing communalist.

We don't want development or good administration. We only want scam after scam after scam and some pseudo-secularism/minority pandering masquerading as secularism.

 

[Rig Vedic]

Though it is just one instance, if proven that he indeed did it, he should be banned from from politics for life. Until he comes out clean from that case, it would be a shameful of us to put him in power. Moreover BJP has the habit of overstating achievements. I am doubting if the same is happening in case of his much publicized Gujarat performance too.

The fact is that there were Congressmen in the mob that burned the train, and there were Congressmen in the mobs that rioted thereafter.

I regard the riots as an administrative failure, but the Congress has far more blood on its hands than Modi.